Stan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 His site http://www.4hispeople.com/ having claimed 'inspired dreams", ( which too often talk about others who are not living up to his expectation etc) , seem to attract gullible people who follow those who often condemn others. Life goes on... If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 It's the southern gospel music from the site.....gets them every time... Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted May 9, 2008 Administrators Share Posted May 9, 2008 A while ago I had a customer tell me all about this site. She is one of our stalwart church members. I thought the same thing, how can anyone be taken in by this? Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby0024 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I just browsed the website. Honestly (In my opinion) the website is bogus and should be banned. I feel that if this guy strongly beleives his dreams are what he thinks they are, then he should write it down for himself, not for the public. I can see this guy forming another cult within christianity. "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgement."- John 7:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 That sad thing is many are falling for him.... If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I just browsed the website. Honestly (In my opinion) the website is bogus and should be banned. I feel that if this guy strongly beleives his dreams are what he thinks they are, then he should write it down for himself, not for the public. I can see this guy forming another cult within christianity. Ah, but we do have freedom of religion and freedom of speech! Each of us is entitled to believe what we will. It is because of those freedoms that you are entitled to your opinion and are entitled to the opportunity to express it (even as you have done in this online post). If his freedoms to do so were taken from him, it would only be just to take yours from you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted May 10, 2008 Administrators Share Posted May 10, 2008 We are all herd animals, we like to belong to a group. There is an old saying that the best way to be good friends is to have a common enemy. I would like to think this is not true, however we are drawn to those who think as we. That being said, many are drawn to the small group against the whole theory. To be a part of something; to be a part of something bigger than life; to be different. Sadly, it appears that this type of person fills a need not filled by anything else. If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 What I found bothersome was that he prayed to God to speak to him as He did to others in the old testiment. Since when do we mere humans demand God Talk to us and any way, shape or form? And being an SDA who says he believes in soul sleep, why then did God give him a dream of seeing family members in heaven?And then there are the churches who are inviting this guy to speak on these dreams as if they were truth. Oh and Gods favorite version of the bible is the King James. LOL <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutha Bouregard Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Oh Sista Amelia.... We need the Lawd talkin' to us in the worst way....Have y'all not seen the misfortunes of the sinners as they go thier own ways...The Lawd gotta talk to us...The Lawd gotta lead his chil'ens...The Lawd gotta lead us to the Promised Land....Blessed be the name of the Lawd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 What I found bothersome was that he prayed to God to speak to him as He did to others in the old testiment. Since when do we mere humans demand God Talk to us and any way, shape or form? And being an SDA who says he believes in soul sleep, why then did God give him a dream of seeing family members in heaven?And then there are the churches who are inviting this guy to speak on these dreams as if they were truth. Oh and Gods favorite version of the bible is the King James. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest truthseeker007 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Man like these prevent me from going to the SDA church. There are too many cultic irrational people. Maybe he is being deceived by satan or he is trying to make money out of his so-called 'visions'. This is very harmfull for the church. He has nothing new to add. The only result of his visions, is that he can sell books, receive donations and that he gets attention. Seems to me that God has other priorities. 6 million Jews had to die in a holocaust, but this man claims Jesus is smiling at him to tell some things that people already know?:s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest truthseeker007 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 I ll never enter the church again, before the Lord himself shows me that the SDA is the remnant church. See the next video, they are preaching everywhere, linking themselves to organisations like amazing facts etc. http://heaven.finalawakening.org/videoflv.htm More and more the church is drifting away from the principle of sola scriptura. I don t want to rely on so called visions. I want biblical evidence. As i can not find this, i ll start my own movement to get people out of babylon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJK Project Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 The following, growing, Biblically analytical commentary on the ministry and revelations of Ernie Knoll may be helpful: http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2012/05/testing-spirits-1-cor-1210.html#ernieknoll God Bless! Matt 25:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoAspen Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Say what...!!!! twas rather confusing is the kindest I can say about the 'blog'!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJK Project Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 There is a lot to say on that post’s topic, and I have little time to spare on it than what I can presently do. So you’ll have to take the time to read up on the provided links to background/further information in order to avoid getting confused about the statements, many indeed derivedly straightly-stated in that post. If you have a specific question(s), I may be of help in either pointing you where to get the information if it/they have already been dealt with, or answering any untreated issues. Matt 25:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted June 26, 2012 Members Share Posted June 26, 2012 People fall for lots of nutty people, not saying that Ernie is crazy, and many are very gullible. phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoAspen Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Sorry, if it isn't readable or self explanatory, no need to expend any further amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. T. Cross Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I gotta get into this prophet business, looks quite profitable (pun intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJK Project Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 People fall for lots of nutty people, not saying that Ernie is crazy, and many are very gullible. pkrause: That pointedly is the purpose of my examination of Ernie Knoll here according to the counsel in 1 Thess 5:19-22 - separate the proverbial “baby from the bathwater”. In other words, upon a closer and relatively more objectively examination of the (public) dreams of Ernie Knoll, I have seen that they are indeed messages from God. But as the human element is always involved in prophesying, we should be careful not to rashly dismiss such valid message. Indeed if God has a Heavenly message to communicate with us, and as He said He would (Num 12:6; Joel 2:28-29/Acts 2:17), and if He then just cannot honor/work with a collectively wayward leadership which have chosen to act independently of Him, particularly in lukewarm Laodicean and self-sufficient ways, then what else can God do than turn, as He had to do with EGW, “the weakest of the weak”?? It would be one thing if Ernie Knoll had started off with making up characters which are supposedly supporting him, but it is an understandable, yet not acceptable in itself, other thing for him to resort to do this in a moment of despair, particularly after a first wave of virtually complete/formal rejection. And as you say, Ernie Knoll is here either deceitful or just clinically crazy in his claims. I.e., he is either making up all of these claims, or he indeed is having those vivid dreams filled with Heavenly imagery, interaction and messages. So that is why we (in fact the Church itself) ought it to ourselves to, and that systematically, “Biblically scrutinize those claims” as Paul, who also had prophetic dreams and visions, counselled. He evidently knew how subtle this prophetic process was. Matt 25:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJK Project Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Sorry, if it isn't readable or self explanatory, no need to expend any further amount of time. CoAspen: I am not getting what you are claiming is so “unreadable” and you surely don’t reasonably expect me to restate everything that I have already clearly and contextually stated in another blog for each new blog post I write. For someone who is following the blog and its post as it increases, such repetitions/redundancy would actually be quite annoying and time consuming for them to wade through. So it is much more logical/right/efficient to write for such serious followers than for the single/casual reader. Matt 25:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJK Project Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I gotta get into this prophet business, looks quite profitable (pun intended) EmptyCross: I don’t see how you can be referring to me and my ministry here for my efforts have not yet become “profitable”, quite to the costly contrary, and nor do I actually plan to make a personal profit from my Biblical research works and ministry. Matt 25:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. T. Cross Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Originally Posted By: EmptyCross I gotta get into this prophet business, looks quite profitable (pun intended) EmptyCross: I don’t see how you can be referring to me and my ministry here for my efforts have not yet become “profitable”, quite to the costly contrary, and nor do I actually plan to make a personal profit from my Biblical research works and ministry. Oh just hang tight, the profit is coming! Here is the thing. We live in a culture that is full of charlatains, con-men, and general scum using the power of various religions to milk people out of their hard earned cash. We have evangelists that are just like rock stars - money sex and power. Difference being rocks stars are at least honest about it. So you will have to excuse the cynicism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon1 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 eyestrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJK Project Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Oh just hang tight, the profit is coming! Here is the thing. We live in a culture that is full of charlatains, con-men, and general scum using the power of various religions to milk people out of their hard earned cash. We have evangelists that are just like rock stars - money sex and power. Difference being rocks stars are at least honest about it. So you will have to excuse the cynicism Well, knowing myself, my pertinent history in this regard, and my future plans, I indeed don’t plan to make a profit from whatever income my finished works will generate. Furthermore, as my future plans involve sufficiently providing a livelihood for infants saved from abortion, then any “profit” will be used to fund that project. (I actually have another, and non-religious, per se (i.e., purely industrial) project to “make money”, yet those profits will actually be to also support that aforementioned “Aborting-Abortion” plan Secondly, Jesus does specifically state that “the worker is worthy of his support” (Matt 10:10 NASB) so the issue should be, if that work itself is worthy of being supported, and this why proper Biblical examination is to be the arbitrator in such matters. [All due Biblical things considered, (which should include judging each thing/person distinctly, according to its/their own merit), I actually think your stance here is more judgmental than ‘cynical’. Apart from one (presently known) case, which I technically do not even consider to be that of an Evangelist (i.e., one involved in reaching the unreached/non-SDA), I do not know of ‘Evangelists that are dealing in “money sex and power”’. That is also assuming that your “we” here is speaking of SDA Evangelists.] Matt 25:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJK Project Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 eyestrain I know that “eyestrain” is not an issue with my blog post here. In fact, you would need to adjust your browser and/or monitor setting to remedy that "trouble". However, applicably spiritually speaking here, “eye/sight problems” is a chief deficiency of Laodicea (Rev 3:17-19) In regards to what was the rest of “quip/cute” riddle: There is no need/reason for God to send the Latter Rain is there is not yet a prepared, planted and cultivated field, -having had made proper and full use of the “Early Rain”, nor clean vessels to receive it...It would just be an awful waste on His part for it would: (1) not produce a/the desired harvest, nor provide useful/potable water even if collected in those unclean, if even right side up, vessels. (=LDE LDE 187.1-196.1) Matt 25:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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