Palin's Ratings Fall

[Dr. Shane]

I tend to join many others in wondering, then, why McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time - that sounds like McBush to me.

Don't fall victim to the rhetoric. That 90% number is just Obama rhetoric. It is rather meaningless. It is like McCain saying that Hillary Clinton said he was more qualified to be President than Obama. She did say that. So what Clinton was say is that someone that votes with Bush 90% of the time is more qualified than Obama. Right? That is really silly. The fact is that Bush has never had a vote in the Senate so neither Obama or McCain have ever voted with Bush. Do get sucked into other people's rhetoric.

[Dr. Shane]

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You once said that our economy can create money, NEW money, from services provided.

New money is created by loans. If they are not sound loans we get into problems like we are now.

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Even Boone pickens says that we need to substitue LPG for oil/gas and move to create wind energy....

I am not sure what is trying to be said here. LPG is liquid petroleum gas. Boone Pickens says it is our bridge to alternative energy, like wind and solar. I agree completely. In order to LPG we have to "drill baby drill". An oil well has both oil and natural gas in it. In the US our reserves have more natural gas than oil so it only makes sense to switch our cars over to LPG until we can go completely with electric or some other alternative fuel. LPG is what appears to be our best bridge.

[carolaa]

Originally Posted By: carolaa

I tend to join many others in wondering, then, why McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time - that sounds like McBush to me.

Don't fall victim to the rhetoric. That 90% number is just Obama rhetoric. It is rather meaningless. It is like McCain saying that Hillary Clinton said he was more qualified to be President than Obama. She did say that. So what Clinton was say is that someone that votes with Bush 90% of the time is more qualified than Obama. Right? That is really silly. The fact is that Bush has never had a vote in the Senate so neither Obama or McCain have ever voted with Bush. Do get sucked into other people's rhetoric.

According to FactCheck, McCain voted with Bush's *positions* 95 percent of the time.

[Dr. Shane]

Did factcheck state how many times Obama voted for the same positions? Most of the bills that come up for vote in Congress are not partisan votes. It may well be that Obama voted with McCain 50% or 75% of the time. Those are just games people play with rhetoric.

[Neil D]

So now, you are implying that Factcheck. org is not being fair, or slanted toward Obama, or not giving out correct facts....

I tend to think that it explains well, and it tends to be careful of what it writes and that it tends to work from a common understanding...

So, if it said, 95% of the time McCain is voting in step with Bush, then I would listen...especially since Obama is claiming only a 90% voting record.

Either, Obama is working from a smaller base, or is stricter in it's requirements than factcheck.org....

Either way, McCain and Bush are working hand in hand pretty much most of the time....And if the American people want what Bush has given them, it's ok to vote for McCAin...

[Dr. Shane]

"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief." John McCain, opposing Bush 2001 tax cuts.

Obama got the 90% number from McCain. During the primaries McCain said he voted with Bush 90% of the time. There is no mystery where Obama got the 90% number from. This is the old primary trick where one candidate takes words they used in the primary and use them against them. Is it fair? Most of the time it is. However in this case Obama is using McCain's words to try and make McCain appear to be Bush's twin. That is not what McCain was trying to say when he said it. McCain was simply showing his Republican credentials. The "few" areas where McCain disagrees with Bush are big areas. 1. Execution of the Iraq War. 2. Global warming 3. Torture of terrorist combatants. 4. Warrantless wiretapping 5. Treatment of foreigners wanting to enter the US 6. Interaction with the media 7. Campaign finance reform 8. Changing Senate filibuster rules 9. Federal spending 10. Real estate tax 11. Nuclear proliferation 12. Stem cell research 13. Marriage Defense Amendment

OK, there are 13 pretty big areas where McCain disagrees with Bush. Here are some pretty big areas they agree on.

1. No increase on income tax 2. Off-shore drilling 3. Anti-abortion 4. Judicial philosophy 5. Some parts pf the Patriot Act 6. Afghanistan War 7. Death penalty 8. Gun control: favor trigger locks, background checks, ban on assault weapons 9. School choice 10. Free trade 11. Health care 12. Comprehensive immigration reform 13. Social Security reform 14. Banning porn from school libraries 15. Allow faith-base organizations access to federal funding

So while McCain and Bush to agree on many issues, the 90% number is misleading.

[lazarus]

I think honest conservatives can't avoid the truth:

Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I’ve been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I’ve also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there’s not much content there. Here’s but one example of many from her interview with Hannity: “Well, there is a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we’re talking about today. And that’s something that John McCain, too, his track record, proving that he can work both sides of the aisle, he can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this.”

When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama’s numbers, Palin blustered wordily: “I’m not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who’s more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who’s actually done it?”

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=

[Dr. Shane]

That is what they said about Bill Clinton too. I think it went something like this. Just because he can run a corner drug store doesn't mean he can run a Wal-Mart.

[jasd]

Umm, lazarus,

why did Obama's handlers find it necessary to book the Mideast/European Getmecreds Tour for him recently?

I put it to you that he lacked CREDS. He seriously lacked CREDS, well, other than Chicago street creds.

Major Media now trumpets that Obama has CREDS! Yeah, like I got my baby teeth and dimples in the cutest places... And he is the

Top of the Ticket!

To tell truth, I'd much rather listen to Palin filibuster than to listen to Obama agonizing with his signature uh, uh, uh, uhs... while he attempts to formulate what isn’t there. Why ain it there? Is he an empty suit? Can he talk and chew gum at the same time?

GET HIM A TELEPROMPTER! (oh, they did that, didn’t they?)

[Bravus]

Hmm, we'll see, in the debate tonight.

[jasd]

Gotta give credit where credit is due; however, per tonight...

how will one determine whether to credit Obama or the teleprompter?

[Bravus]

No teleprompters in debates

[jasd]

Good catch :-o

[carolaa]

I feel the same way. It's painful. Laura Bush says she's a quick study, though.

[Gone Fishing]

O'Reilly reacts to Palin interview with Couric:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpAH0e8Wes

[carolaa]

I don't understand why O'Reilly thinks we should be asking Palin what SHE would do. That's not a question typically asked of VP candidates. The VP candidates are supposed to be promoting the main dog, not themselves.

[Tom Wetmore]

The whole jist of Bill'O the Clown's whining was that Palin hasn't come on his show... The reason should be obvious to those who are paying attention to his sagging ratings. He sees how big a boost Caribou Barbie gave her running mate in the ratings and how much of a ratings boost every other interview with her got. He just feels snubbed and wants a bigger piece of the pie. All the rest of his rant is... well... his usual rant...

[Dr. Shane]

Cable TV Ratings

The only news program getting better ratings than O'Reilly is Hannity and Combs. No doubt, O'Reilly wants Palin for ratings. She has already been on Hannity and Combs. But she can't do all FOXNews interviews or that will play into the propaganda that FOXNews is a Republican network. I suspect she will go on O'Reilly before the election.

[Tom Wetmore]

When I say his ratings are sagging, that is as compare to the long term trend of his show and FoxNews in general. His total number of viewers has declined 37% since 2005. In the last year the numbers have essentially remained flat. And that should be compared with a 50% growth at CNN and MSNBC over the same period.

And in any given week, if you carve out the key demographic of ages 25-54, he has a much smaller slice of the ratings pie. And compared to his direct competition in the 8pm timeslot in most markets, the ratings against Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC are much closer with Olbermann even beating O'Reilly from time to time.

And if you factor in the comparative market saturation of the FoxNews, their ratings numbers look less impressive. In a number of key Republican strongholds, MSNBC is not even available on the cable line up.

[Dr. Shane]

According to Nielsen Media Research FOXNews is the only cable news network even in the top 10 of cable TV programs. O'Reilly was in the #10 spot last week. Nothing there from CNN or MSNBC. Hannity & Combs are beating O'Reilly.