Postponing The Debate

[Woody]

I see no need for McCain to do anything but confuse Letterman. He has it comin.

[jasd]

>>...because Obama totally had a teleprompter when he was a law professor...<<

Law Professor? Umm... there is law professor and there is law professor, yes?

His curriculum vitae may state so – but, other than as loosely defined, was he really?

[Neil D]

I see no need for McCain to do anything but confuse Letterman. He has it comin.

Why????

Because he books McCain and McCain stiffs him, therefore Letterman has it coming?????

Most of his schick was to fill in the hole that McCain left, and play the mock hurt host, which he did...McCain has been on Letterman,.... what, 12 times in the last year?

And you say that Letterman has it coming????

What?! Where do you..?! I just..!!!

You are impossible, Redwood!

[Bravus]

OK, so from your perspective, jasd, those with whom we disagree do not deserve even the courtesy of the truth?

Wow, won't America be fun for half the population the next 4 years if McCain is elected!

[jasd]

>>OK, so from your perspective, jasd, those with whom we disagree do not deserve even the courtesy of the truth?

Wow, won't America be fun for half the population the next 4 years if McCain is elected!<<

The truth was self-evident.

Okay, so wasn't there a 90 minute lapse in scheduling? McCain decided to fly out because of extenuating circumstances. In the truncated time available McCain elects to interview with Couric. That is a no-brainer! Letterman is Hee-Haw. Now is not to, again, laugh and scratch or to shuck and jive with the likes of Letterman; especially, after him wetting his pants over Chris Rock's comparisons between Palin and Michael Vicks.

If the show's host cannot conduct himself with just a bit of gravitas, well, with whom would you interview were you campaigning for the highest and most responsible Office in the land?

:-o

[jasd]

>>...half the population the next 4 years if McCain is elected!<<

It is hoped that a goodly portion of those mindlessly flirting with the unthinkable will come to their senses and that the ratio will end up a whole bunch more advantageously for McCain than only

"half the population"

[Neil D]

I went into a store and saw one of those posters that said-

"Those of you who think you know everything, are annoying those of us who do...."

I thought it hilariously funny...

[jasd]

>>"Those of you who think you know everything, are annoying those of us who do...."

I thought it hilariously funny...<<

I've often wondered about the rather low-brow stuff you, apparently, find funny :-o

[Neil D]

I've often wondered about the rather low-brow stuff you apparently find funny :-o

Hey, I saw it in a shop..What are you complaining about?????

[jasd]

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I thought it hilariously funny...

So, you saw it in a shop. I simply made a general observation.

Anyway, what do you think? can bee stings cure MS?

[Bravus]

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What!? he just walked-in on Couric and sez, “Here I am, let’s interview me!” Of course not, one has to schedule Letterman, one has to schedule Couric, one even has to even schedule me! That translates to time schedules, sequence of events...

Precisely, so if McCain didn't want to go on Letterman, why did he schedule it in the first place? He could have avoided the whole debacle by just not booking the appearance. (Of course, the contention that McCain didn't want to do Letterman because of how he sees Letterman (or rather, how you see Letterman) is something you have made up entirely and in relation to which there's no empirical evidence to test.)

Look, I have absolutely no problem with McCain deciding to do the Couric interview instead of the Letterman show. I agree, at a time of crisis, it's easy to make the argument that it's better to do a serious news interview than a light entertainment show. On that point we are agreed.

My entire point - and why I said McCain's action was monumentally dumb at the beginning of this thread - is that if McCain had simply been honest and truthful and said that to Letterman, McCain could have avoided the whole debacle. One minute of socially awkward honesty on the phone to avoid the perception on the part of hundreds of thousands of people (Letterman's viewers) that you're a liar.

Honesty is the best policy.

[jasd]

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What!? he just walked-in on Couric and sez, “Here I am, let’s interview me!” Of course not, one has to schedule Letterman, one has to schedule Couric, one even has to even schedule me! That translates to time schedules, sequence of events...

>>Precisely, so if McCain didn't want to go on Letterman, why did he schedule it in the first place?<<

I suspect that Letterman was booked sometime previous the current financial emergency.

>>He could have avoided the whole debacle by just not booking the appearance.<<

Debacle? According to major media, everything McCain does is a debacle – even his suffering from cancer is a debacle. Besides, can you imagine McCain actually picking up the phone and scheduling an appearance on the Letterman show? I doubt it happened. It would have fallen to his staff to do so.

There was a change of schedule. Simple.

Now, the spin comes out of Hollywood and the blogs – that McCain did this; did not do that; did; did not; who’s on first...?

>>(Of course, the contention that McCain didn't want to do Letterman because of how he sees Letterman (or rather, how you see Letterman) is something you have made up entirely and in relation to which there's no empirical evidence to test.)<<

Empirical, schempirical. Yes, it is opinion. Yes, it is mine. I forwarded a choice of scenarios that might be appreciated by this, that, or the other person not entirely in the tank for the opposition. That’s opinion.

>>My entire point - and why I said McCain's action was monumentally dumb...<<

Opposition rubbing off? Or are you advancing opinion?

>>...is that if McCain had simply been honest and truthful and said that to Letterman, McCain could have avoided the whole debacle. One minute of socially awkward honesty on the phone to avoid the perception on the part of hundreds of thousands of people (Letterman's viewers) that you're a liar.<<

Good grief, it may have been that McCain had no intention to do the interview with Couric either. It may have been that circumstances simply unfolded in a manner which permitted him to do the Couric interview; whereas, time constraints conflicted entirely with the Letterman schedule or with doing both interviews.

His campaign called. His campaign cancelled. What? so Letterman felt dissed? What? it’s like dissing is a thing foreign to his own practices? Sometimes, circumstances prevail – and the one who feels he/she is on the receiving end ought to just – suck it up, as there is usually a very good reason why so/so acted as he/she did.

It seems that it matters not to the lefter, at all, what circumstances prevail. Have you heard the numbers of those same ‘leaning’ pundits, commentators, bloggers, et al... all echoing the same talking points on any given day? It’s like they subscribe to a common and sub rosa LexisNexis. Case in point.

>>Honesty is the best policy.<<

Agreed. That said, Writ tells us that even Gd subscribes to the occasional lie. The question obtaining would be – ‘what are the extenuating circumstances’?

[Bravus]

No, did you watch the video? McCain himself called.

[Bravus]

Anyway, I'm done. It's a tiny issue, but it goes to character, which we're being told is a key issue...

[jasd]

Okay. Yes, it would go to character. Do you have all the details?

I think the issue encompasses both judgement and character - parallel, or tandem.

Video: it shows McCain calling Letterman or stating that he called re the cancellation? Thanks, for the info.

[Dr. Shane]

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if McCain had simply been honest and truthful and said that to Letterman...

Does anyone think that McCain personally called, talked to Letterman and lied?

I imagine McCain's campaign manager made the call that Corric was going to get the interview and Letterman was going to be cancelled. He told someone to call and cancel. Basically, McCain's people talked to Letterman's people. That is what I suspect. If any "lies" were told I doubt it was at the direct instruction of McCain.

[Bravus]

Nope - please people, watch the video before commenting.

Letterman clearly says that McCain himself phoned and cancelled, and that Letterman appreciated the fact that he did so.

Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjkCrfylq-E

[Dr. Shane]

I see Obama is complaining that "Presidential" politics is being injected into this debate and he (Obama) is questioning if Presidential candidates should be involved in a high profile way in this problem.

Basically, to me, Obama is saying McCain shouldn't be part of the solution because he is running for President. "Why shouldn't he be?" is my question. I suspect Obama doesn't like it because McCain has the influence to make a difference and Obama doesn't so Obama doesn't think it is fair that McCain can do something.

[Bravus]

Um, look at the reports out of Washington. Basically everyone who has spoken about it has said that McCain came in and derailed an almost-completed agreement by not understanding it and bringing new proposals, and that his presence has hurt rather than helped the process.

[Dr. Shane]

I am on dial-up at home so YouTube videos are not of much use to me. If he did lie to Letterman - shame on him. I can't say it is a big deal to me. Saddly to say, a lot of people tell little white lies and too often I have been guilty of it myself. I hope that doesn't make me too bad of a person.

[jasd]

>>Letterman clearly says that McCain himself phoned and cancelled,<<

Oh, that video. I'd read the transcript but could only deduce a 'he said', 'she said' narrative - only in this case it would be 'he said', 'he said'.

I suppose Letterman is the obvious man to believe, yes? The same Letterman who callously went off on Palin without reason other than apparently, he enjoyed taking a swipe at McCain's running mate.

Okay :-o

[Bravus]

Aye, don't bother me with evidence, I know what I think.

[jasd]

>>Basically everyone who has spoken about it has said that McCain came in and derailed an almost-completed agreement..<<

It appears that for that very reason McCain suspended his campaign and went to Washington. The Pols were ready to unconstitutionally create a fourth branch of govt – the Treasury/Fed branch; meanwhile, placing the full faith and credit of the American People on the line. The result would have been the serfitude of our children – probably into the unforeseeable future. The financial conglomerates would have been the primary beneficiaries.

What’s THAT!?

>>...by not understanding it and bringing new proposals, and that his presence has hurt rather than helped the process.<<

It may have been, exactly, McCain’s intention to derail the ‘deals’ being put together. I don’t think anyone of us has sufficient details or information re the matter to make precipitous judgements.

[jasd]

>>Aye, don't bother me with evidence, I know what I think.<<

Since when does one adduce from evidence being a 'he said', 'he said'? You may be, indeed, spot-on; however, that would entail disregarding all else that might bear upon the matter.

I'd rather give the benefit of the doubt to a man with proven character and judgement - and not to one who has shown only a proclivity to pique (not you, Bravus); that is, Letterman, who vented... to include the second slot on the ticket. Badmouthing McCain seemed insufficient when a second target of his vent was available, ie, Palin.

Letterman was whizzed; not a moment when a man might be trusted with words.

:-o

[Dr. Shane]

Um, look at the reports out of Washington. Basically everyone who has spoken about it has said that McCain came in and derailed an almost-completed agreement by not understanding it and bringing new proposals, and that his presence has hurt rather than helped the process.

Three Democrat leaders are claiming McCain derailed it. Lets put that in context. Three Democrat leaders are claiming McCain derailed it.

Senator Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee, stated there never was a deal and the problem is the hostility of many Congressional Republicans.

What is happening, in my opinion, is that the Democrats are very afraid that McCain is going to negotiate a deal the Republicans will accept (like he has done so many times before) and Americans will see him as a man that can get tough things done in Washington.