Dr. Shane Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Report clears Palin in Troopergate probe A report has cleared Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin of ethics violations in the firing of her public safety commissioner. Released Monday, the report says there is no probable cause to believe Palin or any other state official violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with the firing. The report was prepared by Timothy Petumenos, an independent counsel for the Alaska Personnel Board. [text from link] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldona Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Wasn't there a previous investigation/ report that stated she DID violate the ethics act? Is this a case of "run the investigation process again until you get the result you want?" And what's with the timing, on the eve of the election? I dunno...I'm just a dumb foreigner... aldona Quote www.asrc.org.au (Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, Melbourne)Helping over 2000 refugees & asylum seekers each monthIMSLP/Petrucci Music LibraryThe Public Domain Music Score Library - Free Sheet Music DownloadsLooking for classical sheet music? Try IMSLP first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Perhaps this might help, Aldona.... Associated Press Report Quote: ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Gov. Sarah Palin violated no ethics laws when she fired her public safety commissioner, the state personnel board concluded in a report released Monday. [snip] Palin initially said she would cooperate with the Legislature's probe. But after she became John McCain's running mate, she said the investigation had become too partisan and filed an ethics grievance against herself with the personnel board. Personnel board members are appointed by the governor, who can fire members for cause. I believe that this is a situation where the fox is guarding the henhouse.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I don't think they want to sway current election based on something like that. But then again, I understand that slinging power is unethical... yet so is adultery. If I'd be in her shoes, I don't know what I would do... but I speculate that I'd do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobRyan Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Wasn't there a previous investigation/ report that stated she DID violate the ethics act? Is this a case of "run the investigation process again until you get the result you want?" And what's with the timing, on the eve of the election? I dunno...I'm just a dumb foreigner... aldona 1. No wrong doing ever found. 2. Palin stated as much all along 3. Hint -- there is a reason she is one of the most popular governors 4. Lot's of smoke and heat generated by the opposition only to fizzle in the light of day -- not too unusual for politicians operating on a "self-first country second" basis. Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Report clears Palin in Troopergate probe A report has cleared Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin of ethics violations in the firing of her public safety commissioner. Released Monday, the report says there is no probable cause to believe Palin or any other state official violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with the firing. The report was prepared by Timothy Petumenos, an independent counsel for the Alaska Personnel Board. [text from link] Praise God. Time to put away all that election time mud slinging. Go Palin/ McCain Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 One has to remember that Palin has rocked the boat a lot in Alaska. Democrats don't like her because she is Republican and many Republicans don't like her because she has exposed a lot of corruption within the party. So she has a lot of enemies on both sides of the aisle. We now see there was no wrong doing. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 "No wrong doing...?" The fact that this committee was appointed by Governor Palin and can be fired at her request, didn't make it onto your radar? We, the people, want different politics and here we see the same ol' "I'll scratch your back, now you scratch mine.".... Sheesh.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I does not matter anymore. As of 9:35 p.m. central, they have very little chance if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 It isn't about winning an election. For goodness sake, what about justice? This woman was butchered by those that disagree with her politically. Now she has been vindicated. She has to go home and run a state. She has a life, a family and people that depend on her. I am glad she can go home and get back to business having been vindicated. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 The people who she runs, stand by her 100%, so I don't think that's going to be a problem. It's not about "vindication", but keeping elected officials accountable. They pull enough power around to defend themselves, and speak for themselves. It's the people at the bottom who would stand little chance. So, I would not worry about the "vindication". She's done enough vindicating herself, while talking about Obama. So, I think it's fair game there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 In an effort to hold her accountable she has been vindicated. And let's remember her supposed "crime". She fired someone that was to serve at her pleasure. It was a political position she appointed him to. It would be like the President of the US firing the Attorney General. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Shane, the only people she has been vindicated is by her own cronies....That is not vindication...that's politics as usual.... That's not maverick material...That's the ol' boys network...And that's all she replaced was one ol' boys network for hers... Take off the rose colored glasses... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Yak Yak Yak Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Once again, she is in position of power, and a closer scrutiny is a given, even at the expense of "vindication". If she can't handle it, then she does not belong in politics... and I'm sure that she knows it. If you consider some of the political dirt poured on her opponent... such as Barak HUSSEIN Obama... and etc... the one that she faced was a minor one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I am reminded of a saying that many with my culture like to say.... He who is faithful in small things, is probably faithful in large things.... Seems to me both ms Palin and B. Obama fit this saying quite well... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 I have no problem with politicians getting investigated. The timing of this one was obviously political. But in the end she has been vindicated. Good for her. I am always happy to see an honest politician in the system. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I have no problem with politicians getting investigated. The timing of this one was obviously political. But in the end she has been vindicated. Good for her. I am always happy to see an honest politician in the system. "Honest politician in the system" Boy, now there's an oxymoron.....honest politicain....and it's even applied to Sarah Palin....That's a bit much even for you, Shane... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Just think of how historic it would have been to have a woman as VP. But the nation is obviously still sexist. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Red... now... seriously! Palin is a self described feminist. When you worldview revolves around singling out a cause of gender... who is more sexist? I'm not talking about the women equality here. What I'm talking about is a mandated equality where "inequality" has little to do with anything. There are some jobs than men will generally perform better. It's reality. There are certain qualities that both women and men poses that complementary to each gender. The feminism movement is in fact sexist in nature, and it had done more damage than it's done any good. Without feminism movement we would hardly have the moral degradation we have today. Abortion rights are product of feminism essentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Yes. What do you think the world would have said if Obama lost? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Yes. What do you think the world would have said if Obama lost? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? And Hillary won???? Why, "Yay!" of course. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Yes. What do you think the world would have said if Obama lost? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? to McCain/Pallin Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Originally Posted By: Redwood Yes. What do you think the world would have said if Obama lost? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? to McCain/Pallin AS I have said, if obama wins, there will be dancing in the street...If McCain wins, it will be business as usual. Happy, probably, but not jubilant... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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