Dr. Shane Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I thought the Republicans were going to steal the election by hacking into the voting machines. Will the far left now admit they were wrong? Did we not have a fair election in America? Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Yes it was fair. All that Demo talk was nonsense. But the reason that McCain lost was because of the drop in Oil prices. If they had remained high instead of dropping below $2 a gallon for gas ... then the cry DRILL Baby Drill would have resonated. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldona Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Wait a minute, Shane, there has not been enough time yet for the conspiracy theories to emerge...plenty of time for that in the next few days. And I have been observing politics of all stripes and colors for long enough to know...both sides are just as capable of conspiracy theories. aldona Quote www.asrc.org.au (Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, Melbourne)Helping over 2000 refugees & asylum seekers each monthIMSLP/Petrucci Music LibraryThe Public Domain Music Score Library - Free Sheet Music DownloadsLooking for classical sheet music? Try IMSLP first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I thought the Republicans were going to steal the election by hacking into the voting machines. Will the far left now admit they were wrong? Did we not have a fair election in America? Perhaps the hackers "went rogue"... ahahahahahahahah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hard to believe the hackers stole the election from McCain and gave it to Obama when the results are turning out to be closer than the polls were. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Shane... sarcasm, following by a pun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hard to believe the hackers stole the election from McCain and gave it to Obama when the results are turning out to be closer than the polls were. Twould be an interesting twist IF the republicans challenged the vote and found all these fraudulent votes in the machines increasing the democratic votes and found someway to place it on the demos when they controled the boxes... Still think the vote count should not be so close together.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 3% in a country as divided as we are is pretty good for Obama. A lot of people just didn't buy the idea that everything is Bush's fault and the Democrats will save the world. I don't have a lot of faith in Obama but I am willing to roll the dice. I know what I would have gotten with McCain. More of the same wasn't something I feared. Not at all. We live in the best nation in the world. More of the same means more of the best. But I am betting that Obama can make it even better. Maybe I am wrong and he will mess things up bad. If so, we boot him out in four years and take the Senate away from him in two. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I don't have a lot of faith in Obama but I am willing to roll the dice. I know what I would have gotten with McCain. More of the same wasn't something I feared. Not at all. We live in the best nation in the world. More of the same means more of the best. But I am betting that Obama can make it even better. Maybe I am wrong and he will mess things up bad. If so, we boot him out in four years and take the Senate away from him in two. Oh, you don't believe in political money and Obama now can spend it? Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Yeah. We know all about Obama and his money. He bought this election and I suppose he can buy whatever he wants. He is used to it anyway. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Political capital? Bill Clinton had a lot of political capital and all he accomplished his first two years was raising taxes on everyone - including the middle class. Obama will have even more political capital than Clinton had. No doubt. Is it enough? And how will he use it? We are dealing a lot with economic philosophy. Things Obama wants to do haven't been successfully implemented. Taxing the wealthy and giving the money to the middle class. He wants to help the middle class by strengthening unions. I hope that works. It could backfire and drive more companies out of the US. Or maybe just to Texas (good for us). There are a lot of unknowns. I voted for Obama because I am willing to give these things a try. However I am not so gullible that I think everything is going to work out the way Obama hopes. Time will tell and... time takes time. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Yeah. We know all about Obama and his money. He bought this election and I suppose he can buy whatever he wants. He is used to it anyway. Excuse me, the word is "political capital" and those are Bushes words...You should have corrected me on that.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 You didn't say political capital. You said political money. And Obama stole the election with lots of that money even though he promised not to. See below: Quote: Oh, you don't believe in political money and Obama now can spend it? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 That's because I couldn't remember how Bush said it..."Now I have political capital, and I am spending it." My mis-quote...my apologies... Just remember, grousing about the loss will not endear you to your friends... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I have a lot of makin up to do. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 You may, on bended knee, kiss my jesuit ring, Father friar Redwood.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Even coming from a Jesuit ... that is a bit for me to do. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Even coming from a Jesuit ... that is a bit for me to do. I seem to remember that you claimed to be the leading Jesuit around here.....I think that has been disproved....again... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 No. I am the loyal one. It is YOU that I doubt. (as a Jesuit ... I am not allowed to kiss a fake ring) Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolaa Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I thought the Republicans were going to steal the election by hacking into the voting machines. Will the far left now admit they were wrong? Did we not have a fair election in America? Actually, I'm curious to know how this turns out: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/3/on_eve_of_election_day_is It's possible that this, as well as all the publicity about fraud, helped to curb it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolaa Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Here's a link that gives several possible reasons why not much fraud was seen, including the one I gave above: http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/msg/83c5fbdef6b87a0f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 The reason not much fraud was seen is because the Democrats won. Fraud only occurs when Republicans win. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasd Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 QR frame: Just a bit tangential... I think the conspiracy threads may actually lead back to Barney Bush who, as it seems, went off - and tried to nip a Major Media reporter. You go Barney! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 The reason not much fraud was seen is because the Democrats won. Fraud only occurs when Republicans win. Perhaps the hackers grew a conscience and flipped the other way? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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