Its about to become law in America now

[Joe_in_RP]

I don't know if this is the correct place to post this. Some will say its politics, some will say its a conspiracy, some will think I am attacking the Democratic president. The truth is its a fact and more importantly its very historical.

House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill

Posted By admin On March 19, 2009 @ 9:07 am In Featured Stories | 263 Comments

Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet.com

Thursday, March 19, 2009

The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama’s promised “civilian national security force” intensify.

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by a 321-105 margin and now goes to the Senate.

Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”

Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”

“The legislation, slated to cost $6 billion over five years, would create 175,000 “new service opportunities” under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the national volunteer program to 250,000. It would also create additional “corps” to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors, including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Futures Corps and Veterans Service Corps, and it expands the National Civilian Community Corps to focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation,” reports Fox News.

The Senate is also considering a similar piece of legislation known as the “Serve America Act,” which also includes language about “Youth Engagement Zones”.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

Fears about Obama’s plans to create involuntary servitude were first stoked in July 2008, when Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

Despite denials that Obama plans to institute a mandatory program of national service, his original change.gov website stated that Americans would be “required” to complete “50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year”. The text was only later changed to state that Americans would be “encouraged” to undertake such programs.

In addition, Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, publicly stated his intention to help create “universal civil defense training” in 2006.

“The bill’s opponents — and there are only a few in Congress — say it could cram ideology down the throats of young “volunteers,” many of whom could be forced into service since the bill creates a “Congressional Commission on Civic Service,” reports Fox....

http://www.infowars.com/house-passes-mandatory-national-service-bill/print/

Why is this important?

It is important because of the historical context. Those who have not studied the period between 1935 and 1945 AKA the second world war may not recognize the similarity.

"The sole purpose of this educational structure was to create a future generation that was blindly loyal to Hitler and the Nazis."

More info:

http://www.shoaheducation.com/HJ.html

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Nazis_Education.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth

[Joe_in_RP]

More info from a book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=vpG38qf...3&ct=result

Its a google book explaining the danger. The impact on children.

[Outta Here]

Quote:

Despite denials that Obama plans to institute a mandatory program of national service, his original change.gov website stated that Americans would be “required” to complete “50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year”. The text was only later changed to state that Americans would be “encouraged” to undertake such programs.

I can't begin to understand all that this will mean for my own children. However, this bit about community service hours is already in place in many of our public and private schools. In the local public school here, students who are part of the A+ program are required to serve 50 hours of community service. In the local National Honor Society program in the private schools, there is a 10 hour service requirement per semester and a 10 hour personal service project per year. In both the public and private settings, the students often take pride in the service hours they've accumulated--some going as high as 200+ hours per year.

[Neil D]

OOOOoooo....Come on, guys....

Where is this *c*r*a*p* coming from????

Who is paranoid around here?????

You all think that Obama is going to start the nazi party or something....Give me a break!!!!!

[Liz]

Like Aubrey I really don't know what this means directly for my kids. But they also do the community service hours in the local public schools, it looks great on a college application. I am not sure why doing community service is a bad thing?

[Joe_in_RP]

Its not about community service. Its not about politics. Its about indoctrination. Read the google book page. They you will see how dangerous it is.

[Joe_in_RP]

Neil, all of my friends who grew up in Europe think this dangerous also.

[Bravus]

Heh - and if a Republican was proposing it?

[Joe_in_RP]

It doesn't matter who proposed it. Its not about politics. Its about the government indoctrinating kids ! Why is this so hard for people to see?

Study history. Learn how even Adventist kids are sucked into this.

[Neil D]

That's just it, Joe...History has taught us...And within our organization and Baptist organizations, and Church of Christ organizations, there are a whole host of people who would rise up an throw this in the face of every public outlet.

you guys are just plain paranoid..."The world is coming to an end", sell your posessions and get ready to move into the country, Folks...Obama is sending this democracy into a Socialistic Republic...

This is major *c*r*a*p* ....and totally totally just paranoid...And here I thought prophecy was an anchor, and not something that cause us to be drifting or pursuing every possible prophetic vision...

Ok, so you know what pushes my buttons...I'm off

[Woody]

Quote:

you guys are just plain paranoid..."

Quote:

This is major *c*r*a*p* ....and totally totally just paranoid...And here I thought prophecy was an anchor, and not something that cause us to be drifting or pursuing every possible prophetic vision...

Ok, so you know what pushes my buttons...I'm off

Yes. I've noticed a number of things and people that push your buttons Neil.

[Bravus]

I dunno, maybe it will cool things off if I explain my comment a little more. I was responding to this proposed plan on the basis of the *hundreds* of comments I've heard from aging right-wingers in Australia saying 'what young people today need is National Service to put a bit of backbone in them and get them on the straight and narrow'. They mean military service, but it would surprise me quite a bit if a right-wing government came up with a National Service plan and these guys attacked it. I'd think it'd be something they'd be very much in favour of.

Now off to read that article Joe linked.

[SouthAfrican]

South Africa also had something similar to this during the Apartheid era.

[SouthAfrican]

Just a quick thought on this.

Ellen White said we must "cut ourselves off" from the sinful world - seems that the Evil One will stop at nothing to try and corrupt the minds of young people.

[Outta Here]

More info from a book:

http://books.google.com/books?id=vpG38qf...3&ct=result

Its a google book explaining the danger. The impact on children.

Everytime I click on this link it takes me to a book page of this book:

Street smart: the New York of Lumet, Allen, Scorsese, and Lee

By Richard Aloysius Blake

Edition: illustrated

Published by University Press of Kentucky, 2005

ISBN 0813123577, 9780813123578

335 pages

Is this what you are referring to? I don't see the connection, if it is.

[Joe_in_RP]

Yes its one page explaining how indoctrination of one youth(now famous) had such a powerful effect on him.

This whole thing is also about peer pressure. Evil use of peer pressure.

[Outta Here]

The Generations Invigorating Volunteeris...a Critical Time

The Act really sounds great in my opinion!

[Liz]

Yeah, I don't see a problem either. And if you want to pay your own way through college, then you don't have to do the volunteering to get the pell grant money.

[Jeannieb43]

What Pres. Obama wants is a national community service plan* which will enable young people to have their college or trade school education paid for if they serve in community service. I heard him [on the radio] explain this in person at a Town Hall meeting when he was here in Southern California a couple days ago.

*something like the Peace Corps under JFK.

[carolaa]

It seems like it would be more palatable to more people if it were not mandatory. It sounds like the incentives are there to participate, so why make it mandatory?

[Liz]

I thought it was voluntary? Is it going to be mandatory? If it is, now I have a problem with it.

[carolaa]

The original post has the word mandatory in there several times. But maybe I missed something.

[Joe_in_RP]

Hello Its mandatory. There is a new government agency being created.

Sad Adventist history:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=145039

[Liz]

Sorry Carolaa and Joe somehow I completely kept missing the word mandatory over and over. Yes, I now have a problem with it, on the surface it sounds good, but if it is mandatory (and apparantly it is) then they can also tell you when and where the service is to be fulfilled.

Again I don't know what, if any, kind of impact this will have on my children.

But it is also my understanding that in the last days, that the "official church as a whole" will not stand up to the government; but rather each individual will have to stand up for their own convictions.

[carolaa]

Actually, I don't even care if it is mandatory as long as people get to decide what kind of service they want to do.