Neil D Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 [:"blue"] Ok, columists...How many MORE of you are on George's payroll???? [/] Christopher Curtis, PlanetOut Network published Monday, January 31, 2005 The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) revealed Thursday that the Bush Administration paid a third conservative columnist to promote its policies. The administration paid syndicated columnist Mike McManus $10,000 to train marriage counselors as part of the agency's effort to promote marriage, the Associated Press reported. McManus, whose weekly column appears in at least 30 newspapers, has written several pieces on marriage, exhorting conservatives to join the fight against recognizing same-sex couples. The 3rd paid columist Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 What I don't get is why this would bother anyone? $10,000 is nothing to begin with and it was used to train marriage counsels. Oh the scandel! Next they are going to be training midwives or maybe even school teachers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> A nation with a 50% divorce rate should be spending millions to train in marriage counselors if you ask me. Not just a few thousand dollars. How many counselors were trained for $10,000 anyway? Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted February 1, 2005 Author Share Posted February 1, 2005 Quote: What I don't get is why this would bother anyone? $10,000 is nothing to begin with and it was used to train marriage counsels. Oh the scandel! Next they are going to be training midwives or maybe even school teachers [:"blue"]"The issue here isn't just whether a journalist violated ethics, but whether the Bush administration broke the law," Lautenberg said in a quote published by the Associated Press. [/] So, how do you know that a journalist is writing about his own agenda or taughting a legislator or President's agenda? Why should the Executive Branch of goverment have their own press corp that tell you what you need to think? Sounds like the Soviet propoganda machine.... The press is what keeps your goverment in check, by keeping their readership informed of what the goveremnet is doing. But if there is a merjer between the two, democracy is circommvented and what you have is a dictatorship... To be honest, I think that all three of them should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for violating thier oaths of the free press. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Jeannieb43 Posted February 1, 2005 Moderators Share Posted February 1, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Why should the Executive Branch of goverment have their own press corp that tell you what you need to think? Sounds like the Soviet propoganda machine.... The press is what keeps your goverment in check, by keeping their readership informed of what the goveremnet is doing. But if there is a merjer between the two, democracy is circommvented and what you have is a dictatorship... To be honest, I think that all three of them should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for violating thier oaths of the free press. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I agree. If the administration does have its own press corps to promote its own agenda, such a thing should be clearly stated. But no, this president works under cover. Paying people to say what he wants them to say. And to mislead the public. Dictatorship. Quote Jeannie<br /><br /><br />...Change is inevitable; growth is optional.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Rest easy (unless you are a Bush-hater), the Bush Administration didn't violate any law. However the journalists seem to have acted unethical. Odd that the same folks who accused Republicans of being on a witch hunt during the Clinton years, cling to every flimsy conspiracy theory to accuse Bush of a wrong doing. The word hypocrit comes to mind. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Quote: Rest easy (unless you are a Bush-hater), the Bush Administration didn't violate any law. Excuse me, but does the concept of offering bribes to individuals to influence public opinion not register as a violation of law? Quote: Odd that the same folks who accused Republicans of being on a witch hunt during the Clinton years, cling to every flimsy conspiracy theory to accuse Bush of a wrong doing. The word hypocrit comes to mind. Oh, for crying out loud, Shane...talk about poisoning the well.....You live in the past, and you don't like it when we talk about the current problems...so you throw up another smoke screen with the following words- clinton, conspiracy theory, and hypocrite. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Bribe is an aweful strong word. I have not seen that reported in any mainstream news or even the radical Left sites I go to. You must have some news sources I don't. Sorry for pointing out the obvious but if the shoe fits, wear it. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Sounds like no wrong doing on the part of the Bush team. HHS says it paid columnist for help </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Kelly McBride, a media ethics scholar at the Poynter Institute, said any journalist should at least disclose such payments to readers. "Any time anyone gives you money, you have a loyalty to them, and that's a conflict," she said. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I am amazed by the hatred so many have for the President that they want to twist anything to draw into question his motives. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Here is a bumper sticker for you, Brother Neil. []http://www.rise4news.net/impeach_bush_1.gif[/] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Here is another one for you. []http://prodtn.cafepress.com/1/6294331_F_tn.jpg[/] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 How about this one []http://prodtn.cafepress.com/9/14527119_F_tn.jpg[/] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 []http://prodtn.cafepress.com/0/15710500_F_tn.jpg[/] []http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/images/300-p25695-23.jpg[/] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 And here is perhaps your favorite: []http://prodtn.cafepress.com/8/16073328_F_tn.jpg[/] Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 This is really unworthy of anyone claiming rationality. Mike McManus is an expert on marriage. He knows how to train marriage counselors. Experts write columns. About the subjects they're expert on. Governments hire experts to do the things they're expert on. The government hired McManus to do what he's expert at. Maggie Gallagher is an expert on marriage. She has conducted many studies, and given many lectures on the subject. Experts write columns. About the topics they're expert on. Governments hire experts to do research and write studies. The government hired Gallagher to write papers for them. There's no scandal in either case. There's no "there" there. Otherwise every academic, every pundit, every journalist who has ever performed normal professional duties and has been paid for those services by anyone is suspect. After all, government isn't the only party with a political agenda. Microsoft, the Sierra Club, AFSCME-- everyone's got a political agenda. Golly, I lobbied for the homeschoolers in my state. Then the government asked me to serve on panels and committees. Say, do you suppose the government bought me off somehow? It won't fly, Neil. It's unworthy of you. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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