Dr. Shane Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The main question concerning polygamy cannot be answered effectively unless the limits of religious liberty are established. That is easy to answer. As long as one's religious practice does not infringe upon the rights of another, the religious practice should be allowed. Thus when the issue is dealing with consenting adults, polygamy should be allowed. When polygamy deals with minors below the age of consent, it should be forbidden. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Quote: As long as one's religious practice does not infringe upon the rights of another, the religious practice should be allowed. That would inevitably result in chaos. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 What was the question again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 What was the question again? appears like few know :) Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I say bring all the wives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The question is whether a person emigrating to a different country is free to ignore the laws of that country under the claim of religious freedom. Oh, and the correct answer, apparently is "Yes." Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Let's say a Seventh-day Adventist immigrates to Cuba. He then has to do his mandatory service in the military. Would religious liberty require Cuba to provide him Saturday as a Sabbath? At his expense, should he be allowed a vegetarian diet? Should he be allowed to peacefully assemble with other believers on Saturday. Should he be allowed to pray before his meals in public? Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Cuba is not a country that allows liberty of any kind. A person who goes there should expect to be imprisoned if they attempt to live in liberty. I would not move my family there and expect their liberty to be respected in any way. And if I went to protest or attempt to change things, I would expect incarceration. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted September 25, 2009 Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 Nice one Stan. Not sure. Obviously God only wanted one male and one female when he created Man. But he did allow but didn't condone those that had more than one wife, like Abraham, David, etc. So I say let the wife's come also. pk Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted September 26, 2009 Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2009 I do not believe the wives should be discarded however I believe that some Adventist churches do require converts to discard all but one of their wives when they convert. In some places all of the wives would be allowed to become SDA members. However, the husband would be required to "discard" all but one woman! Stan's question was an immigration question. It was not a question of marital rights under U.S. law. Looking at some of the responses: I am glad that you are not in charge. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teresaq Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 The question is whether a person emigrating to a different country is free to ignore the laws of that country under the claim of religious freedom. Oh, and the correct answer, apparently is "Yes." no, that is not how i understood the question. the question is not whether polygamy should be allowed in that any man (or woman) already a citizen should be able to marry more than one wife at a time. it is about how to deal with a difficult situation where the laws of a country conflict with reality. the man does have multiple wives with whom he possibly has children. these wives may be dependent on him financially. the children do need their father, if hes a good one. the question as i see it, tho it was not stated, is what is best for the country, the man, women and children? personally i think an amendment should be made to allow for such immigrants, but only to those who were previously married. Quote facebook. /teresa.quintero.790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 The practice of poligamy should be banned any where in the world whether it is legal or not by the secular government. Just look at the horrible mess we are in because of what Abraham did. If Abraham didn't begat a child from the second wife we would not have all these Muslams stirring up the terror. Won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Polygamy is less than ideal. In societies that are not advanced, women out number men because they tend to survive childhood illness better. In this same societies, most women are not able to earn enough money to support themselves so they need to marry. Obviously when there are more women than men, if the women need to marry there will have to be some men with multiple wives. I think it is sad that our church is involved with breaking up homes and families. The Bible teaches that a man with multiple wives should not be a deacon, it doesn't teach that he can't be a member. I went to college with a man whose father had two wives and was a Baptist. My friend's brother and aunt were Adventist. He didn't believe it was right that in order for his father to become an Adventist he would have to choose between his wives. My friend was from Kenya. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 That's true whbae, but that problem is because abe and sara tried to help God out. Don't forget David and Solomon also had many wife's. Which God did not condone, but didn't tell them that they had to give up there wife's. pk Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I grew up in the country where the poligamy was practiced and some tolerated. The 2nd or 3rd wife is called concubine. The most people accepted this practice then because the society was structured such a way that it was a mean for a woman to gain some sort fo financial security. Regardless where men come from they are sexually greedy. Most of them are not satisfied with one partner only. One LLU graduate told me that it feels like sqeezing a same old tooth paste when you stick with one woman. Usually, womaen marry for the financial security, however, men set their eyes on some thing else. I guess this is the physiological difference between men and women. Won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted September 27, 2009 Administrators Share Posted September 27, 2009 Squeezing the same old toothpaste? I wonder what his wife thought of HIS performance! Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teresaq Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Squeezing the same old toothpaste? I wonder what his wife thought of HIS performance! Quote facebook. /teresa.quintero.790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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