Moderators John317 Posted June 19, 2010 Author Moderators Share Posted June 19, 2010 Quote: SivartM: Why is it that Christians are supposed to call wrong things wrong... except fighting. I don't think that's true. If a Christian believes that all fighting is wrong, he's free to make his case. I wouldn't tell him not to express his convictions. Quote: SivartM: We're supposed to speak against slavery, abortion, adultery, etc., but when it comes to fighting, oh, no, we can't say that it's wrong (never mind that Jesus said to love your enemies). Who is telling you or anyone else that you can't say fighting is wrong? Whether you are right to say that ALL fighting is wrong is another story-- but that is not the same as saying you can't express what you believe. Quote: SivartM: By the way, governments allow or have allowed slavery, abortion, etc. And some have outlawed Christianity. So... maybe, just maybe, we're supposed to obey God first. Yes, and this has been stated already on this thread. Quote: SivartM: So we should do things like they did in the Old Testament, or should we do what Jesus said and love our enemies? Should we use the Old Testament to interpret Jesus or Jesus to interpret the Old Testament? Individual Christians should do what Jesus said and love their enemies. We're commanded to forgive the evils that people to do us, but that doesn't mean that forgiven people don't have to pay the the price of their evil choices. You can't expect worldly governments to act as an individual Christian is supposed to act. For instance, what would have happened if England or the USA had merely forgiven Hitler or the Japanese for their invasions into other people's territories? If that had happened, there's an excellent probability that today you and millions of others would be under the power of either the Japanese or the Nazis. Governments have a responsibility to enforce laws and protect its citizens. The world is a dangerous place, and governments must deal with this hard reality. Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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