Amelia Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hamas bans women from smoking water pipes in cafes By IBRAHIM BARZAK, Associated Press Writer 18July2010 GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – Gaza's Hamas rulers have banned women from smoking water pipes in cafes, calling it a practice that destroys marriages and sullies the image of the Palestinian people. The ban marks the Islamist militant group's latest effort to impose their harsh Muslim lifestyle in the seaside strip on an often resistant public. While Muslim law does not technically ban women from smoking the traditional tobacco-infused pipes, tradition frowns upon the habit. Hamas frequently mixes its strict interpretation of Islamic law with conservative Gaza tradition, and over the weekend, the two dovetailed to produce the smoking ban. "It is inappropriate for a woman to sit cross-legged and smoke in public. It harms the image of our people," Ihab Ghussein, Hamas interior ministry spokesman, said in a statement released Sunday. "Many women who smoke in public were divorced when their husbands saw them, or found out about them," said Hamas police spokesman, Ayman Batneiji, without substantiating his claim. The ban was handed down by plainclothes security officials who marched through a strip of popular cafes by Gaza's seashore over the weekend, ordering owners not to serve water pipes to female customers. Confused owners initially thought the ban applied to both men and women, killing most of their evening business. The Hamas government swiftly issued a statement reassuring residents the ban only applied to women. Smoking water pipes is a popular habit among both sexes in the impoverished Gaza Strip. Although it is considered culturally inappropriate for women to be seen smoking them in public, some middle-class ladies smoke the pipes openly, often in mixed company. Even more conservative women can be seen taking an occasional puff of their husbands' water pipes. "This is silly," fumed Haya Ahmed, a 29-year-old accountant who said she has smoked water pipes for 10 years. "We are not smoking in the streets but in restaurants where only a few people can enter." She predicted the ban would have the opposite effect of its intention and make water pipes more tempting for rebellious young women. "Everything forbidden becomes desirable. The decision will lead to more smokers," Ahmed said. Many Palestinians see the water pipe as inappropriate for women because of its sexual innuendo, and because it looks crass for ladies to smoke, said Palestinian anthropologist Ali Qleibo. It is not clear how strict Hamas will be in enforcing the ban. Many residents are deeply sensitive to any effort by Hamas to infringe on the few forms of entertainment available to Gaza's 1.5 million people. For three years, they have lived under an Israeli and Egyptian blockade that has penned them into the tiny coastal territory. Many Gazans pile into beach cafes in the evenings to puff on water pipes well into the early hours. A cafe and restaurant union representative in Gaza, Ayman Abu Khair, estimated the ban would cost cafe owners some 10 percent of their income. He said owners were not warned before Hamas police barged into their establishments Friday night issuing the verbal order. Abu Khair said the union hoped to challenge the ruling. The militant group has backed down in the past when it senses resistance to its harsh rules. A ban on men working in female hair salons was never enforced, and a demand that female lawyers cover their hair before they enter courtrooms was quietly rescinded. But Hamas has successfully banned women from riding motorbikes, arguing it was culturally inappropriate. It also instructed teachers to pressure teenage girls to cover up in long, loose robes and headscarves. Last year the group cracked down on Gaza's tiny number of moonshiners and banned foreigners from bringing alcohol into the blockaded territory. For Ahmed, the ban has been a damper. "I smoked (in public) with my family around," she said. "Now, I will smoke at home." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_hamas_crackdown/print Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Quote: Hamas bans women from smoking water pipes in cafes Why do they oppose smoking water? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted July 18, 2010 Members Share Posted July 18, 2010 The pipe still uses tobacco. The water filters the smoke. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted July 19, 2010 Members Share Posted July 19, 2010 AMELIA WELL that is interesting the article said that both man and women smoked the water pipes I thought that muslims did not smoke at all??? then the band was for women only??? dgrimm60 Good point dgrimm, I hadn't thought about that, I think your right Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I used to have a water pipe.....It never occurred to me to put tobbacco in it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuff sed Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I used to have a water pipe.....It never occurred to me to put tobbacco in it though. No wonder it kept going out every time you tried to light it!...'nuff sed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug yowell Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Originally Posted By: Richard Holbrook I used to have a water pipe.....It never occurred to me to put tobbacco in it though. No wonder it kept going out every time you tried to light it!...'nuff sed "BONGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted July 19, 2010 Members Share Posted July 19, 2010 No wonder it kept going out every time you tried to light it!...'nuff sed good one 'nuff sed, but man could I add to this, but I will leave it as is. LOL Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted July 19, 2010 Moderators Share Posted July 19, 2010 So basically they've saved the women from mouth cancer... (at the cost of their freedom) Hard to know how we should feel about it. Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SivartM Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 They should outlaw it for men, too. And in the rest of the world, also. I mean, if tobacco was discovered today, it would be illegal. So why not pretend that it was instead of pretending that people have a sovereign right to make themselves and everyone else miserable? Quote "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olger Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hah. If two-way traffic on roads was proposed today, the hand wringers in society would try to outlaw THAT. g Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Ain't that the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SivartM Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Do you think that toxic substances should be legal for purchase and consumption by anyone who wants them? What if we treated heroin like tobacco? Quote "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 What if we treated heroin like tobacco? It would probably cut way down on heroin addicts getting hooked on methadone. That would be a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SivartM Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Yes, instead of heroin addicts getting hooked on methadone, they could stay hooked on heroin. Quote "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Yes, instead of heroin addicts getting hooked on methadone, they could stay hooked on heroin. What has the illegality done to stop heroin use? Wonder what would happen if legalized and treated as alcohol.No selling to minors,no driving a vehicle etc Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 OOO; thats really harsh - not being able to smoke a water pipe. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 And of course because minors "can't" buy it, means they won't Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SivartM Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Well, minors "can't" buy cocaine either, and most don't. Quote "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Well, minors "can't" buy cocaine either, and most don't. Depends where you live. But even one is too many. Just "legalize" everything and it will all just go away - right? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Originally Posted By: SivartM Well, minors "can't" buy cocaine either, and most don't. Depends where you live. But even one is too many. Just "legalize" everything and it will all just go away - right? Sure...and then we can tax the heck out of it, make it terribly expensive and remove it from the poorer folk.... ...what's not to like about the solution? [/tic] Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 And of course because minors "can't" buy it, means they won't And of course that is not what I said. Prohibition did prevent a lot of alcohol consumption but also made for some very "lucrative,thriving cottage industries" Many became wealthy and many became dead. The drug industry is no different. Just read the news along our borders with Mexico. Or the amount of illegal drugs sold in our cities.Tell me what the law has done except to make many wealthy and many dead. Since they started putting teeth into our drunk driving laws and a serious bite on the wallet,drunk driving is going down,at least here. I would love to see some very stiff penalities for anything that violates strict enforcement of use. Caught selling you go away for a very,very long time. Driving,just as long.Someone dies as a result of what you sold it is capital 1 murder. The illegality of drugs is what makes it the most dangerous and costly.If someone wants to live in their own home in a drug induced coma,go for it. What is being done is not working. Prohibition did not work to prevent crime,only added to it. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 quote=Overaged]And of course because minors "can't" buy it, means they won't /quote] And of course that is not what I said. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 quote=Overaged]On the flip side, why make drugs "legal" just to "take it away from the poor? " Make people - both rich and poor, pay 100% of the associated medical costs for the problems they will develop. That ought take most drugs away from both rich and poor. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 More will become dead and more will become wealthy when/if legalized. It is not the law that made drug lords wealthy. It is AK 47s and other methods of "persuasion." Including certain ones; whom I won't mention here who deliberately lace their "coke" and heroin with "meth" and other "goodies" to hook young kids hard. It works very well right under the parent's noses in some cases, and now we have those who want to just legalize this filthy garbage so that it is even easier for these freaks to ruin young lives. Nice; but you can have that where you live if you want it; I can guarantee it won't fly here. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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