aldona Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 What is the meaning of clapping at any occasion? If you asked a random sample of the general population, you would probably mostly get answers like "To express happiness" or "To show appreciation for something they have just seen/heard." If you asked a random sample of Adventists, answers would probably sound more like "To gratify the ego of the speaker/performer" or "As a display of worldly pride". We Adventists have been conditioned by the ongoing debate around clapping and our thinking has been colored by these ideas. At church, watch next time someone spontaneously starts clapping because something has happened that makes them happy or something has been said that they really relate to. Watch the more "mature" saints visibly cringe and then, after an awkward moment, join in with a mumbled "Amen." Or another way of looking at it: take the example of a little child, too young to understand the kinds of arguments for and against clapping that we have been debating. Under what circumstances would he/she spontaneously start to clap? and what would he/she be trying to say by this? AJ Quote www.asrc.org.au (Asylum Seeker Resource Centre, Melbourne)Helping over 2000 refugees & asylum seekers each monthIMSLP/Petrucci Music LibraryThe Public Domain Music Score Library - Free Sheet Music DownloadsLooking for classical sheet music? Try IMSLP first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I clap when some one has done a job well; it may be playing, competition of sports, or musical performance of some sort. The clapping is done to praise the performer or player. So, why should any one clap when some one got baptised? When some one decides to follow Jesus and show one's decision publicly shouldn't we praise God rather than clapping to boost human's ego? Whenever we clap, the player or performer's ego is boosted. It is the human nature. won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted August 1, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 1, 2010 I clap when some one has done a job well; it may be playing, competition of sports, or musical performance of some sort. The clapping is done to praise the performer or player. So, why should any one clap when some one got baptised? When some one decides to follow Jesus and show one's decision publicly shouldn't we praise God rather than clapping to boost human's ego? Whenever we clap, the player or performer's ego is boosted. It is the human nature.won Clapping can be done to indicate agreement with what is being said and done. When people clap during a sermon it is often in agreement with the point that is being made rather then simply the praising the person. Clearly, A person can hear a loud or quiet amen and have their ego swell. Amens cannot and do not prevent the heart from swelling with pride. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 Some GREAT posts a goin' on here. Excellent. Hitting the nail on the head. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Are we in a sanctuary where all must pay utmost respect to God, or are we in a conert hall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted August 2, 2010 Administrators Share Posted August 2, 2010 Psalms 47:1 - To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of the sons of Korah. Oh clap your hands all you peoples! Shout to God with the voice of triumph! Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Let those that want to praise Him with clapping do so and b glad. Let those that want to be quiet or say Amen .... do so ... and b sad. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 In Russia, everyone claps in unison after a performance. In some cultures, stomping feet is the proper practice to symbolize approval after a performance. Germans pound on a table. The ancient Romans snapped their fingers. I think clapping is cultural. And optional. Quote Pam      Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Clapping is OK. Stomping the feet is cool. Pounding the table is off-the-chart cook. Snapping the fingers,,, not so much. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 At least we don't have people wanting to whistle. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 I've heard some very beautiful whistling. So, I am open to it. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted August 3, 2010 Members Share Posted August 3, 2010 re: whistling... In my church we had an elderly lady - actually, she was known as the "AMEN" lady - who always whistled the hymns or along with special music while she was sitting in the congregation. One Sabbath, we had a violinist from the Music Dept of Pacific University give special music. He was playing a classical piece.....very nice. Then the music called for a "rest" and the violinist stopped. Before he could start playing again, out from the congregation came this loud Aayyyyy, then the violinist began to play again before little old Gracie could get the "men" said... (I started silently laughing, and kept poking my mom because I didn't think she caught on. She finally slapped my hand - because it was all she could do not to laugh too..) Quote Pam      Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 This is what I want to avoid. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 How about this whistling, Red? Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Psalms 47:1 - To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of the sons of Korah. Oh clap your hands all you peoples! Shout to God with the voice of triumph! Job 27:23 He shall clap His hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted August 3, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 3, 2010 Psalms 47:1 - To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of the sons of Korah. Oh clap your hands all you peoples! Shout to God with the voice of triumph! This is a genuine question. Why do people insist and persist in condemning what is clearly at least described (in a positive light) in scripture? Things like clapping and dancing are clearly described in a positive way but it is as if these scriptures don't exist. Why? I can understand if someone says "that's not for me" but don't make it seem like God hates it too! Perhaps this would be a topic for another thread. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 quote=Tom Wetmore]Psalms 47:1 - To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of the sons of Korah. Oh clap your hands all you peoples! Shout to God with the voice of triumph! /quote] This is a genuine question. Why do people insist and persist in condemning what is clearly at least described (in a positive light) in scripture? Things like clapping and dancing are clearly described in a positive way but it is as if these scriptures don't exist. Why? I can understand if someone says "that's not for me" but don't make it seem like God hates it too! Perhaps this would be a topic for another thread. What about the guy that Peter healed; who was described as "leaping and praising the Lord?" Isn't that worse than clapping? Act 3:8 And leaping up, he stood and walked and entered with them into the temple, walking and leaping and praising God. Imagine what would happen to this poor fellow in certain of our Churches today? Would he be lynched or clapped for? It seems that the clapping issue has gone too far. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 This is what I want to avoid. "> Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Psalms 47:1 - To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of the sons of Korah. Oh clap your hands all you peoples! Shout to God with the voice of triumph! Since you want to "obey" Psalms 47:1, tell us, when will you start obeying Job 27:23 He shall clap His hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place.? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerr Posted August 7, 2010 Moderators Share Posted August 7, 2010 Hey, let those who have the claps let others know they have it. :):) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted August 7, 2010 Members Share Posted August 7, 2010 hahahahaha!!! Good one, Gerry!! Quote Pam      Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Manner of worshiping God is partly a cultral thing. Why do christians have a church and sit on the pews during worship service? Why not worship God as did in the Old Testament days(just like you guys quoted about clapping and dancing) by bowing down your heads and prostrate yourselves on the ground? The Muslims still do this way. There is a place and time for every thing. Won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted August 7, 2010 Members Share Posted August 7, 2010 Not sure Won that the Jews actually did this? Unless you know of a statement in the Bible were they did! Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 I Chron. 29.20, Deut. 26,10, Psalms 86,9, and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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