Johann Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Things changed, cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Maybe. I guess you're a lot older than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted August 18, 2013 Moderators Share Posted August 18, 2013 As one who has lived in other countries there are certain pictures that come to my mind as I read these posts. As CA is an international forum, in order to help out our international readers, I post the following form Wikipedia: Quote: Trousers are an item of clothing worn from the waist to the ankles, covering both legs separately (rather than with cloth extending across both legs as in skirts and dresses). They are also called pants in some countries, notably the United States. (However, in Britain, the word "pants" generally means underpants and not trousers.) * * * * In most of the Western world, trousers have been worn since ancient times and throughout the Medieval period, becoming the most common form of lower-body clothing for males in the modern world, although shorts are also widely worn, and kilts and other garments may be worn in various regions and cultures. Since the mid-20th century, trousers have increasingly been worn by females as well. Jeans, made of denim, are a form of trousers for casual wear, now widely worn all over the world by both sexes. ** * * * North Americans call undergarments underwear, underpants, undies, jockey shorts, shorts, long johns or panties (the last are women's garments specifically) to distinguish them from other pants that are worn on the outside. The term drawers normally refers to undergarments, but in some dialects, may be found as a synonym for "breeches", that is, trousers. In these dialects, the term underdrawers is used for undergarments. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 The Bible is silent on the subject of women wearing pants... and men wearing pants. Pants apparently were not worn by either men or women in Jewish culture While pants are not addressed, there is this admonition in Deut 22:5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this. which is the source of our contention here..... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.  George Bernard Shaw  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 any idea on how the clothing differed when Duet 22:5 was written? Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted August 18, 2013 Members Share Posted August 18, 2013 Originally Posted By: Tom Wetmore The Bible is silent on the subject of women wearing pants... and men wearing pants. Pants apparently were not worn by either men or women in Jewish culture While pants are not addressed, there is this admonition in Deut 22:5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this. which is the source of our contention here..... The SDABC on Deut 22:5 has this to say: This probably refers to the heathen custom--quite common in some lands today--of a simulated change of sex for immoral purposes, men wearing women's clothes, aping their manners, and offering their bodies for immoral purposes. The word here translated "that which pertaineth" is used of many articles other than clothing, such as "jewels" (Gen 24:53), "weapons" (Gen 27:3), "stuff" (Gen 31:37), "armour" (1 Sam 17:400, "furniture" (Nahum 2:9). God made man male and female, and the distinction thus ordained is to be honored and obeyed. The desire to minimize this distinction grows from low ideals and contributes to immorality. I think this gives a little more light on the subject of than and now. Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Originally Posted By: Tom Wetmore The Bible is silent on the subject of women wearing pants... and men wearing pants. Pants apparently were not worn by either men or women in Jewish culture While pants are not addressed, there is this admonition in Deut 22:5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this. which is the source of our contention here..... Men should never give their jacket to their wives, daughters or mothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Originally Posted By: Neil D While pants are not addressed, there is this admonition in Deut 22:5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this. which is the source of our contention here..... Men should never give their jacket to their wives, daughters or mothers. Assuming that the wives[however many the man had], daughters or mothers were cold and needed the jacket for warmth/protection from the elements, couldn't we say that the woman was "borrowing" the jacket, and not necessarily "wearing" it??? I know, I am splitting hairs here... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.  George Bernard Shaw  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerr Posted August 19, 2013 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2013 Kilts, anyone? Blessings, I'll wear a kilt if you put a burqa on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Oplinger Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Originally Posted By: Ted Oplinger Kilts, anyone? Blessings, I'll wear a kilt if you put a burqa on. Well, Gerry, that was the point - a kilt is recognized as a man's culturally native skirt in Scotland. So we can go to Scotland, and I'll out that kilt on to accompany yours. Burqas, though, are strictly a woman's...er, attire, if it can be called that. Blessings! Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Quote: Where was this seminar? When did it take place? Who led the seminar? Why did you attend this seminar? What church do you attend? Do you attend on a regular basis? Who is your "pastor"? Do you consider yourself to be an SDA? Do you believe in being honest on a forum? Just wondering... thinking Two words seem appropriate. Nosy and meddling. But of course you may have their best interest at heart. Yeah right! God cares! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 These boots were made for walkin. And that's just what they'll do...... is walk all over you. Who was that vocalist? God cares! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Shouldn't be any disagreement here as to whether women ought to wear pants or not. <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> **back to topic** God cares! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted August 19, 2013 Members Share Posted August 19, 2013 Originally Posted By: RLH These boots were made for walkin. And that's just what they'll do...... is walk all over you. Who was that vocalist? God cares! Nancy Sinatra? I believe? Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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