teresaq Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Teresaq(sda), Since you have stated that nothing I say will change your mind then I think we will have to agree to disagree. facebook. /teresa.quintero.790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Sorry; I guess it got left out when I cut and pasted: {AA 416.3} "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Concupsicence does NOT have to be evil... ...Nor does the RCC claim it all is. ...Could you use "evil concupiscence" intead of propensities where Ellen used the term? "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teresaq Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Jesus seems to have "lusted" here, at least it has the same greek word. Quote: Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire G1939 I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: According to the authorities (blueletterbible.com)the original word did not have the connotation it has now come to have. If that be true, it would appear that the word should be translated simply "desire". facebook. /teresa.quintero.790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teresaq Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Originally Posted By: Gustave Only that the SDA Pioneers, of which Ellen White was the largest part......Taught Arianism / semi Arianism. If you were alive and a believing member of the SDA church in 1869.... ...And you compared the stated teachings of SDAism compared to the R.C.C. ...Of the two groups which do you NOW believe was closer to the truth? Keep in mind that there were SDAs in those days who believed in the Trinity. Some were pastors. So it is not true that the SDA church had a requirement that members be Arian or semi-Arian. This is important because it shows that the SDA church did not have an official doctrine about the Trinity. In fact, as I mentioned before, James White wrote an article in the Review and Herald in which he stated that the doctrine of the Trinity or other views of the Godhead should not be a test of Christian character or of fellowship. In 1869? Gustave was asking specifically about 1869. Also, I, at least, would like to see exactly what was said and its context, please. :) facebook. /teresa.quintero.790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teresaq Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 "J" Which Trinity doctrine were they "wrong" about? The SDA understanding which did not exist at that time? Or the papal/protestant doctrine-which they did know thoroughly? Originally Posted By: Gustave ...The Catholic Church as well as the Eastern Orthodox Church has it's early Church Fathers.......And the SDA's have their early Church Pioneers. ...The concept of "Father's" & "SDA Pioneers" appears to have the same meaning. ... Many of the leading Pioneers were wrong on a number things, including ...the Trinity. facebook. /teresa.quintero.790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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