Amelia Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 []http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050316/lthumb.la80103161935.arctic_drilling_la801.jpg[/] In this undated photo provided by the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a female polar bear lays with her cubs in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska. A sharply divided Senate on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 voted to open the ecologically rich Alaska wildlife refuge to oil drilling, delivering a major energy policy win for President Bush (news - web sites). (AP Photo/Arctic National Wildlife Refuge) Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Jeannieb43 Posted March 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted March 30, 2005 ...and a major death blow for local wildlife. Quote Jeannie<br /><br /><br />...Change is inevitable; growth is optional.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lambert Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 That picture makes the bear cubs look so cute. But did you know that polar bears have absolutely no fear of man and will stalk and kill a human just as readily as they would a seal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Quote: ...and a major death blow for local wildlife. ====================================== Get real! First of all people's rights do not take 2nd place to non human rights! We all know the claim made by the environmentalist when the Exxon oil tanker went aground in Alaska. Their words were like this..."There won't be another Salmon fishing season for 50 years due to this accident”. It is an amazing time to be living, sick people are allowed to print & publish anything and get away with it with no accountability later, they just use the back of their sleeve to wipe the egg off their face and dream up another scare. Adventist personal mission is not to save a planet “that waxing old like a garment”, but to warn people with a present truth message. The circles I was in growin up Adventist were not taught dancing as youth, but they might as well learn how if they have no warning message, where they can at least be like Nero dancing when Rome burned. Ready or not the delay has run it course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted March 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted March 30, 2005 For a slightly different perspective: http://bravus.port5.com/blog/index.php?p=200 and http://bravus.port5.com/blog/index.php?p=208 (read the comments as well as the posts) Ron - and your point? That any creature that is dangerous to humans should be made extinct as quickly as possible? Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted March 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted March 30, 2005 btw, it's not going to take the drilling in the ANWR to kill off the polar bears - the shrinking of the ice they hunt on already has them starving. Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted March 30, 2005 Moderators Share Posted March 30, 2005 http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1447863,00.html It's true that we're not much longer for this earth, but we were made its stewards, and we *will* be called to account for what we've done to it. Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodema Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Quote: That picture makes the bear cubs look so cute. But did you know that polar bears have absolutely no fear of man and will stalk and kill a human just as readily as they would a seal? ... and that makes it perfectly fine to destroy them as well as their natural environment, of course, of course. Do they allow such reasoning in Heaven? If so, count me out. I'll go to the Lake of Fire. Quietly. Gratefully. Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodema Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Quote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1447863,00.html It's true that we're not much longer for this earth, but we were made its stewards, and we *will* be called to account for what we've done to it. <sarcasm> Oh but Bravus that's forbidden thinking because it's tree-hugging hippie-ism, don't you know that's ANATHEMA to God? That God would prefer we destroy them before they destroy us???</sarcasm> Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 To all: Am I the only one old enough to remember how the Pipeline decimated the caribou herds? Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Speaking of "hugging trees", the last time I flew from ocean to ocean in the US I sure saw a lot of trees out there that have never been hugged I’m sure. Now what are we going to do about that? If EVERY red blood American pledged to hug 50 new trees a day for the rest of their lives, still their would remain thousands that would be un-hugged. Now this is just not right! At least a polar bear cub would know that it was being hugged.[Now I’m in favor of about a week of that.] Now informed peole know that there are more trees growing in America today than there was when the white man landed on Plymouth rock, so we begin to realize that chainsaws are just not a tough as the manufactures claim them to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Yes, environmentalists opposed the pipeline for fear it would wipe out the caribou. Today one flying up and down the pipeline finds caribou sleeping against the pipeline common place. You see the caribou can survive in the cold climate but they prefer to sleep next to the warm pipeline. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 []http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/GasPrices2005/images/margulies.gif[/] Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Shane said these words. "You see the caribou can survive in the cold climate but they prefer to sleep next to the warm pipeline." ================================= When that January cold wind begins to blow where I live and there is nothing between me and the North Pole but a barbwire fence [which happens to be down] every warm blooded creature I can think of would "prefer to sleep next to the warm pipeline." Why all this effort to save this planet is a waste of time, do you realize that in our life time when God the Father speaks from His throne during the 7th plague that the sun, moon & stars are moved out of their places. Without sunlight the earth is in total darkness and no life can continue for a 1000 years at which time the entire world will melt and be made new again. This is just a reality check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lambert Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 So, Nicodema, you want to give up your place in heaven for a bear? The bear will undoubtedly thank you. There will of course be bears in the New Earth. But they will all be changed in nature. Their fangs and claws will be removed, their disposition will be modified, and they will eat plants. Some eco-freaks might object to such a major disruption of nature, a corruption of the very DNA of a natural species. By the way, speaking of polar bears, anyone know what the difference is between the Arctic and the Antarctic? Arctus means bear. (Family Arctoid carnivora.) There are bears in the Arctic. There are no bears in the Antarctic. Antarctic literally means "no bears." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted March 31, 2005 Moderators Share Posted March 31, 2005 That's very cool, Ron, I never knew that! Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Jeannieb43 Posted March 31, 2005 Moderators Share Posted March 31, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> There are no bears in the Antarctic. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> No bears, just penguins...? Quote Jeannie<br /><br /><br />...Change is inevitable; growth is optional.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 He's right. Polar bears are only in the Arctic. IF they were also in the Antarctic, they would need therapy. They would be Bipolar bears. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Jeannieb43 Posted April 1, 2005 Moderators Share Posted April 1, 2005 ROFLOL ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/coolhello.gif" alt="" /> Quote Jeannie<br /><br /><br />...Change is inevitable; growth is optional.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Yeah, it must be something about walking around upside down all the time. Maybe the blood runs to their heads. Even the penguins have delusions of grandeur-- I mean, really, Emperor penguins?! Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted April 1, 2005 Author Share Posted April 1, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> No bears, just penguins...? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Correct. There are no penguins in the arctic. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planey Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Quote: all this effort to save this planet is a waste of time If you can't take care of this earth which God has provided for us, do you think he'd be interested in having you in the brand new one? Graeme Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lambert Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 It's all going to burn. 2 Peter 3:10, 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Nan Posted April 1, 2005 Moderators Share Posted April 1, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Yeah, it must be something about walking around upside down all the time. Maybe the blood runs to their heads. Even the penguins have delusions of grandeur-- I mean, really, Emperor penguins?! <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Hey be nice to the emporer penguins Ed. The males must be the most devoted fathers on the planet. Before the Antarctic winter sets in, the females lay the eggs and give them into the care of the males, who carry them on their feet and keep them warm with body heat. Those birds mass together and spend the whole Antarctic winter on the ice, not eating, incubating their eggs. The males herd together and keep moving so they all get a turn in the warm middle of the group and also on the colder exposed outer part of the group. Then when spring comes the females come back from their overwinter feeding and relieve the males. This gives the babies the longest possible time to grow up in the short Antarctic summer - they are the largest of the penguins. So you guys can have your polar - and other bears <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Quote: It's all going to burn. 2 Peter 3:10, 12. While I do believe that environmentalism has taken on the form of religion for some, and has become extreme in many cases, I don't subscribe to the "all gonna burn" mindset, either. It's clear we are to be stewards of this Earth. That includes wise usage of resources as well as preservation of the planet. Dominion includes responsibility as well as authority. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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