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I'm not sure how many of you have been able to take out some real good time to listen through Mike Warren and D.S. Farris' radio shows, but they have a 7 part series entitled The Two Horned Beast and New World Order Series.

However, out of that 7 part series, I found parts 5-7 the most educational, the most eye-opening, and the most jaw-dropping.

PART 5 - Zionist Elements in the New World Order Plan (streaming, m3u file)

PART 6 - Albert Pikes Blueprint for Three World Wars (streaming, m3u file)

PART 7 - Negative Outcomes That Result In Conspiracy (streaming, m3u file)

I encourage all of you to listen to ALL THREE PARTS, from beginning to end. You'll know what I mean once you're through.

You will see how the Zionist element of the New World Order is supported by the Dispensational framework. It is the catalyst to help hone in the New World Order, which makes Dispensational ideology practically the most dangerous Christian theology on the entire planet.

D. S. Farris and Mike Warren do not spare any punches. They tell things like it is, and they prove everything they say with sound sources. They do an insane job at connecting the dots and helping people to see the big picture.

For those of you who do not know, D.S. Farris (the main presenter, not the radio host) passed away last year in November from some sort of "heart failure" at the age of 37 years old. He left a wife and 21 year old daughter. Everyone said that his passion was to share the Three Angel's Messages with the world, and that even when he had no money, he'd open up his for poor people to stay in .

May he rest in peace.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

Why even bother Lysi? Israel in the Middle East has nothing to do with us as far as the prophecies of the last days are concerned. The "Israel" that really matters to God right now is the Advent people, Seventh-day Adventists, what they are going to do with the 1888 message presented to them for the second time, for the reception or rejection of that message will decide our destiny as a people just as the rejection of the second call by the Jews, after Pentecost, decided the destiny of the Jewish church.

Following this call is the loud cry to the world which will be given by those within the Advent people who will have received the second call, the 1888 message repeated in clear, distinct lines, in the power of the Holy Spirit. This message will invite the people to lay right hold upon the all-sufficient merits of a crucified and risen Sabviour in order to bring the righteousness of Christ into the life, which righteousness is made manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God.

This is what matters to God and nothing else.

This prophecy is about to be fulfilled:

"One interest will prevail, one subject will swallow up every other, Christ and His righteousness." E.G. White.

Christ and His righteousness obtained through faith, that is, by daily coming to God just as we are, sinful, helpless, dependent, appropriating to ourselves the all-sufficient merits of Christ's infinite sacrifice.

sky

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

Posted

I believe the point is completely going right over your head Sky.

That's just the thing! Israel has NOTHING to do with the prophecies of the last days!!

That's just why listening to these is so important! It goes to show you that Satan is DUPING the world into thinking that this is so! And these audios show you how the Straw-man state of Israel that we see today was actually created by the Papacy to create an atmosphere by which to accomplish their NWO plans. A pawn in the game that reflects Mark's and Engle's dialectic: Thesis vs. Antithesis = Synthesis!

You need to listen to the audio shows from beginning to end in order to understand just how important these subjects are.

Do you care about witnessing to Dispensationalists who are gun-ho about Zionism? If so, listening to these is important if you want help them to wake up about what is really going on.

Sky, we're talking about the False Prophet here. The FALSE PROPHET! The above series is delving into the heart of what the False Prophet is prophecying. We must be acquainted with the False Prophet's lies if we are going to successfully expose him.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

If you had only a clue Sky as to how many friends I have who are Dispensationalist, and are Zionist gung-ho.

They cannot make any sense out of anything you tell them concerning the Beast, the False Prophet, and the Mark of the Beast, or Christ's Second Coming---because they are wearing Dispensational goggles. Not until you successfully remove those goggles will they be able to make any heads or tales out of what you are saying.

There was a man who emailed me and mentioned about how these radio shows were able to help take off the dispensational lenses off of him, and how now he was able to make sense of the prophecies.

If you're wearing the wrong lenses for prophetic interpretation, nothing you say will be digested right. Even Christ's righteousness. Because they interpret it to mean that Christ paid it all in the sense that we no longer have to keep the law, and the law was for the "Jewish dispensation". They think everything in terms of "7 covenants" or "7 economies".

This doctrine is the catalyst for the Zionist conspiracy, and the Jesuit Illuminati is behind it. This needs to get exposed, and Dispensationalists need to wake up that their doctrines were created by the Jesuits to destroy the Protestant Reformation.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

Lysi, I believe rather that we are to be acquainted with the truth. If what you are saying is true, surely the book The Great Controversy would have a few chapters to expose these lies especially that this is dealing with last day events. But we do not find one chapter or even one paragraph dealing with such things happening in the Middle East.

But we find chapter after chapter about what is to take place in the United States of America and how every country on the globe will follow her example, bringing church and state together to enforce Sunday worship upon all.

The false prophet has everything to do with enforcing Sunday as the day of worship, making an image to the beast.

sky

Of course if these links are trying to show that last day events have nothing to do with the Middle East, then fine but the focus should be on what is happening within the confines of Adventism and the United States of America.

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

Posted

The Great Controversy was written before Dispensationalism became a prominent doctrine. Futurism and Dispensationalism were not a pervading problem in her day. They were minor in comparison to today. In fact, you do not hear Ellen White or ANY of the pioneers mention ANYTHING about a Pre-tribulation rapture anywhere, because that subject wasn't even prominent. John Nelson Darby was still just barely developing the theory and sharpening it. But it hadn't gone out to the masses yet.

The Great Controversy does a great job at exposing the Papacy and many false doctrines, but along side The Great Controversy, we need to keep up with the latest lies and help steer people to the truth.

D.S. Farris himself quotes from The Great Controversy extensively in his book Prophetic Toolchest for Dismantling the Dispensational Delusion . But his book is up-to-date with the heretical trends of the day.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

Are you suggesting that the Lord had no idea of what was to take place in the future when He inspired Mrs. White to write that book?

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

Posted

Are you suggesting that the Lord had no idea of what was to take place in the future when He inspired Mrs. White to write that book?

No, I am not. She did express the dangers of creating "future applications", for example, and she also expressed that the Lord showed her that Jerusalem would never be built up again as God's ordained people.

But now it becomes more important than before to elaborate upon these subjects utilizing God's word and history.

We should never think that "all we have to do is pass out Great Controversy books, and that will solve it".

No, God expects us to do our own research, and present "present truth" for our time which is in alignment with exposing the pervading errors of the day.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

The "Israel" that really matters to God right now is the Advent people, Seventh-day Adventists, what they are going to do with the 1888 message presented to them for the second time,

sky

We really just need the 2011 message. (Rev 14:6)

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

Posted

Gal.3:24 and Rom.2:28,29 alone blast away all claims that the prophecies found in the Old Testament concerning Israel are for the Jews in the Middle East today. All these promises are for those spoken of in the verses mentioned above. "If you are Christ's, you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise."

These words are sufficient to establish who Israel is today. It has nothing to do with a geographic location which means that the Israel of God today will be found in all parts of the world and it is to them that the prmomises of God are to be fulfilled, those who have made it their life business to look to Christ and to accept His merits which it is their privilege to claim in order to bring His righteousness into the life and His righteousness is make manifest in obedience to all the commandments of God.

Mrs. White stated that this was the third angel's message in clear, distinct lines. This should be our focus not what the false prophet is teaching about what is to take place in the Middle East. Of course that doesn't mean that we should not expose the lie by the truth but our focus is to be the faith of Jesus and the commandmetns of God.

Right?

sky :)

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

Posted

Originally Posted By: skyblue888
The "Israel" that really matters to God right now is the Advent people, Seventh-day Adventists, what they are going to do with the 1888 message presented to them for the second time,

sky

We really just need the 2011 message. (Rev 14:6)

The 1888 message is to be the 2011 message. It is the third angel's message.

sky

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

Posted

I agree Sky. But included in that is exposing deceptions, which includes exposing Dispensationalism.

ESV - "Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them." (Ephesians 5:11)

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

You know Sky, I really am not sure why you have to throw in a monkey-wrench.

Here I'm just trying to be nice and sharing some great data with you guys, and then you come at me!

Why not take out time to just listen to the shows and read the stuff and find out what it is all about before coming at me like you are?

Here we agree on doctrine, yet you still come at me? Wow.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

I agree Sky. But included in that is exposing deceptions, which includes exposing Dispensationalism.

ESV - "Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them." (Ephesians 5:11)

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

Posted

That too Overaged.

But we present truth by also exposing error.

Ellen White numerous places throughout her writings refuted errors and showed the "misuse" and "abuse" of scriptures.

If we are to take what you are saying to its furthest logical conclusion, why not just put bill-boards quoting Revelation 14:6-12 everywhere, and see how far you get.

Why not your whole sermon be nothing but quoting Revelation 14:6-12?

Futurism undermines Revelation 14:6-12.

You know how?

Futurists believe that Revelation 4-19 applies to the "70th week of Daniel", by decapitating it from its first 69 weeks and throwing it into the yet distant future. They believe that ALL the events that transpire in chapters 4-19 are yet to take place in a future 7 year period known as Daniel's "70th week".

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

You will not gain a word edge-wise presenting to them Revelation 14:6-12 as long as they think Revelation chapters 4-19 belong to a future 70th week after the Church is removed.

Therefore, God expects us to diligently expose the False Prophet concerning these evils, and then once these faulty predilections and blurred lenses are removed, and only if they are WILLING for you to help them see that they need to removed, and open their hearts to the truth, can they then see the importance of Revelation 14:6-12 being applicable to the Church and today.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

You have no idea how many young people from evangelical backgrounds looked at me with complete bewilderment, not able to make heads or tales out of what I was telling them when I was trying to help them see that the Beast of Revelation 13 had anything to do with the Papacy. All they could do is think "but that chapter doesn't even belong now... it belongs to the 70th week!"

Thus, I had to go WAY back from scratch and help them understand the principles of prophetic interpertation, and show them how the Jesuits changed these methods of interpretation. Not until after I had gone all the way back from scratch, and helped them to slowly understand the correct principles of prophetic interpretation were they THEN able to start making any sense out of the prophecies.

Sadly, many Adventists think they are going to get somewhere by just presenting the Three Angel's Messages. But they do God a great disfavor without employing the necessarily tools to FIRST remove the faulty lenses that their listeners and readers are wearing.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

That too Overaged.

But we present truth by also exposing error.

Ellen White numerous places throughout her writings refuted errors and showed the "misuse" and "abuse" of scriptures.

But the scriptures speak for themselves, and by presenting truth; you automatically expose error.

Those billboards seem like a good idea with Rev 14:6-12

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

Posted

You will not gain a word edge-wise presenting to them Revelation 14:6-12 as long as they think Revelation chapters 4-19 belong to a future 70th week after the Church is removed.

That's simply not true.

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

Posted

LOL! Oh my what am I to do. tongue

bropes

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

LOL! Oh my what am I to do. tongue

bropes

As long as people look at Bible study and evangelism like a boxing match; we will always have a trail of self-made problems and road-blocks to God's will.

"People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)

"I cannot know why suddenly the storm

should rage so fiercely round me in it's wrath

But this I know: God watches all my path

And I can trust"

"God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - Overaged

Faith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ

Posted

Check this out Overaged when you have a chance:

http://storage.amazingdiscoveries.org/as..._FOUNDATION.pdf

I have had to take Christian friends step-by-step in helping them see this error before we were able to move on with anything. And we actually made some good progress, and they were blown away!

Once they understood that the 70th week was already fulfilled from 27 A.D. to 34 A.D., everything else began to fall into place!

George Burnside, a famous Godly Adventist evangelist back in the 50s got it!

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

You know Sky, I really am not sure why you have to throw in a monkey-wrench.

Here I'm just trying to be nice and sharing some great data with you guys, and then you come at me!

Why not take out time to just listen to the shows and read the stuff and find out what it is all about before coming at me like you are?

Here we agree on doctrine, yet you still come at me? Wow.

Sorry Lysi but I didn't mean to throw in a monkey-wrench. I didn't think you were not nice. :) These theories have been around for a long time. Okay, if I have some time I will take a look. :)

sky

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

Posted

Sorry Lysi but I didn't mean to throw in a monkey-wrench. I didn't think you were not nice. :) These theories have been around for a long time. Okay, if I have some time I will take a look. :)

sky

thumbsup

Thanks Sky, and I'm sorry for reacting the way I did.

~Lysimachus (Marcos S.)

Author of article, Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation (see attachment for article)
Currently writing a book, Vindicating the Historical School of Prophetic Interpretation
Founder of the largest and fastest SDA Apologetics Group on Facebook, Seventh-Day Adventism - Defending the Pillars of the Faith
Writer and apologetics contributor at Adventist Defense League

Vindicating the Year-Day Principle of Prophetic Interpretation.pdf

Posted

Originally Posted By: skyblue888
Sorry Lysi but I didn't mean to throw in a monkey-wrench. I didn't think you were not nice. :) These theories have been around for a long time. Okay, if I have some time I will take a look. :)

sky

thumbsup

Thanks Sky, and I'm sorry for reacting the way I did.

You did nothing wrong. I totally understand your reaction. hehe

sky :)

"The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.

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