Overaged Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 What is "equality?" If "equality" is so equal; why does it divide so much? Seems like, atleast according to what I have been seeing, that in order for one to be more equal; some other must become more unequal? So much for modern day "equality." Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 I guess no one knows what equality is. That must mean we won't see anymore arguments for "equality" on this forum? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerr Posted May 6, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 6, 2012 No two people are alike. Therefore, no two people are equal. You are probably smarter and better looking than I am, so we can't be equal. The equality that we commonly speak of has to do with equal treatment under the law and impartial treatment in our dealings with one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 No two people are alike. Therefore, no two people are equal. You are probably smarter and better looking than I am, so we can't be equal. The equality that we commonly speak of has to do with equal treatment under the law and impartial treatment in our dealings with one another. I like the way you put that Gerry. Makes sense. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Overaged Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Actually; I should have qualified better. I was only referring to this part of Gerrys comment: Quote: The equality that we commonly speak of has to do with equal treatment under the law and impartial treatment in our dealings with one another. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug yowell Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Actually; I should have qualified better. I was only referring to this part of Gerrys comment: Quote: The equality that we commonly speak of has to do with equal treatment under the law and impartial treatment in our dealings with one another. Oh sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 LOL, NO SOUP FOR YOU!! Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted May 7, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 7, 2012 If "equality" is so equal; why does it divide so much? Because those that benefit from inequality feel threatened. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted May 7, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 7, 2012 Seems like, atleast according to what I have been seeing, that in order for one to be more equal; some other must become more unequal? Nope, some other must lose some of the privileges. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Originally Posted By: Overaged If "equality" is so equal; why does it divide so much? Because those that benefit from inequality feel threatened. LOL, thats a new one to me. Who "benefits" from inequality? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted May 7, 2012 Administrators Share Posted May 7, 2012 What ??? Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 lol, I was just asking lazarus about his comment that some benefit from equality.. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted May 7, 2012 Administrators Share Posted May 7, 2012 lol, I was just asking lazarus about his comment that some benefit from equality.. LOL I understand your question ... just didn't understand the comment Lazarus made. I apologize for being unclear Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted May 7, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 7, 2012 LOL, thats a new one to me. Who "benefits" from inequality? I'm puzzled why this is new. Who benefits from inequality? The people who are in an advantageous position as a result of the inequality. If an employer will only employ women who don't have children that inequity in terms of hiring practices will benefit the women who don't have children. Inequality by definition will be advantageous to someone. Some inequities are a natural part of life and are accepted. Some should be challenged and strenuously fought against. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoAspen Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Laz, I thought the issues of equality vs inequlity were understood by all as well.... ! Definition of EQUALITY 1: the quality or state of being equal Synonyms: coequality, coordinateness, equivalence, equivalency, par, parity, sameness Definition of INEQUALITY 1: the quality of being unequal or uneven: as a : lack of evenness b : social disparity Word Origin & History inequality 1484, "difference of rank or dignity," from O.Fr. inequalité (14c.), from M.L. inæqualitas, from inæqualis "unequal," from in- "not" + æqualis "equal" Perhaps this last meaning speaks more to the matter, 'difference of dignity'!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 The Equality Hub Bub: Well - some will see prejudice under each and every rock. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoAspen Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Well, lets see if there is some type of connection...... Quote: The word prejudice (or fore deeming) is most often used to refer to preconceived judgments toward people or a person because of race/ethnicity, gender, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, nationality or other personal characteristics. Wiki and from the same source Quote: The term sexism is generally linked to negative female sentiments that derive from the belief that females are worth less or less capable than males.[12] The discussion of such sentiments, and actual gender differences and stereotypes continue to be controversial topics. Throughout history, women have been thought of as being subordinate to men, often being ignored in areas like the academic arena or belittled altogether. It would seem there are several/many types of 'prejudice'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted May 7, 2012 Members Share Posted May 7, 2012 excellent post CoA Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug yowell Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Originally Posted By: Overaged If "equality" is so equal; why does it divide so much? Because those that benefit from inequality feel threatened. I've noticed that too. Everybody who benefits from the perception that they are not equal feels threatened by any perceived attempt to put them back on an equal footing with the rest of society.And many in our society attempt to be identified with groups that have traditionally been viewed as unequally treated in order to gain the equalizing benefits that this society has bestowed upon those groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug yowell Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 If an employer will only employ women who don't have children that inequity in terms of hiring practices will benefit the women who don't have children. Inequality by definition will be advantageous to someone. Kobe Bryant makes millions of dollars playing basketball, Lazarus makes friends playing basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I've noticed that too. Everybody who benefits from the perception that they are not equal feels threatened by any perceived attempt to put them back on an equal footing with the rest of society.And many in our society attempt to be identified with groups that have traditionally been viewed as unequally treated in order to gain the equalizing benefits that this society has bestowed upon those groups. Excellent thoughts Doug Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 Quote: Nope, some other must lose some of the privileges. [/quote'] So; are you equating "privileges" or lack thereof, to "equality?" That has nothing to do with equality. This is one of the reasons I started this thread. I don't think that there is such a thing as equality in most people's lives. I don't think most people really know what it is. Surely, "equality" goes deeper than mere "privileges" or, lack thereof? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted May 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2012 Kobe Bryant makes millions of dollars playing basketball Yep. That's why I said this..... Some inequities are a natural part of life and are accepted. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted May 8, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2012 Everybody who benefits from the perception that they are not equal feels threatened by any perceived attempt to put them back on an equal footing with the rest of society. I really haven't noticed that myself. Can you give an example? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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