Stan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Rich I appreciate you being very real. Am sure it feels good. Courage Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 To PO- I tend to think your comment where men can have bonds closer than women...might be a bit overstating it...not to say that it isn't possible....I agree with cardw in that relationships, in one sense, are hard to compare to...And yes, they are diffinately different, everyone of them...because the people are unique and are different...but there are some commonalities...within cultures and from without.. RE: every guy needs some kind of emotional healing. I am not saying that you are wrong in your statements regarding the emotional healing...I am sure you are correct when it comes to healing in general anyways... How I tend to look at interpersonal relationships is more like food....And the philosophy that I have come to is that food is my medicine and my medicine is my food...If I eat too much, I get fat and I get sick from that fatness...and the lifestyle that goes with it...If I eat too little, I don't get enough, and am starving for food....I get thin, the electrolyte get abnormally low, and I suffer a heart-attack...And there are photo-nutrients that don't make it to our nutritional radar to get studied, due to minute but significant quantities to protect overall health.. And everyone is different in thier makeup...Some are introverts, and some are extroverts. There is no right or more right way to bond with other men...just so that they are getting enough of each other to function as whole men...and that they watch out for each other... How do you feel about sharing feelings? with other men? How do you feel about talking about sexual subjects, like personal impotency, or, on a lighter note, just touching another man's arm in an assuring gesture? Most of these mores are from the western culture...where the john wayne manlyhood and code of the west stands out...but where men die alone... I, quite frankly don't ever want to die alone....I say this because I think most men think this way, but done want to impign thier manhood.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. T. Cross Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I have male friends that I am very close to. Most of them I would pretty much put my life on the line for so to speak. Of those close friends there are some that is just understood, and we don't talk about much other than hockey, music, hiking and stuff like that. But we are still tight. A couple others I can talk to about anything and everything. To the best of my knowledge there is no sexual attraction. But thats because none of us - again to the best of my knowledge - are attracted to men. That said I have female friends that fit all of that as well. Also no sexual attraction. Thats because we are mature enough to respect boundaries of marriage and relationships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemy Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Just so I'm clear, Just in case I misunderstand the point of this thread, Homosexuality is a grievous sin before God. There is a very real limit to this male binding thing. Otherwise, I have usually enjoyed male bonding in my life. Playing sports, watching the Super Bowl or listening to music. I have usually enjoyed male companionship more than that of women, although not always. Until I became a Christian. My male friends didn't want me around anymore when I stopped drinking and eating pork (pepperoni for instance) and using profanity. They were quite uncomfortable with me. Male bonding in the Seventh-day Adventist Church isn't as close or as beneficial. Way too mush politics for my taste. I am the one uncomfortable in this case. Quote Luke 12:32 NKJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Not talking about homosexuality here, Alchemy....We have described that the male bonding in the USofA appears to be less than an actuality than demonstrated. Tis of note, that Jesus made the declaration that ALL men would be drawn to Him, and thus showed that He was more at home with the wine bibbers, prostitutes, tax collectors than the religious.... Why is it that we can not make the non-religious crowd more "comfortable" than the non-religious crowd? Perhaps the concept of male bonding is not as accepted as we thinks. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardw Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I think Alchemy has a point. SDA church culture is not conducive to bonding of any kind. I'm sure there are exceptions. Church is a high pressure gig. It's all about getting ready for Jesus coming and making sure everybody is good. It's about making sure you don't have the mark of the beast or are not too worldly. It's about judgement. You can't bond under judgment. If you do bond, it's based on fear. I like to laugh and joke and have a good time. That's considered bad in church culture. In SDA culture we have serious business to be about and we can't be wasting time joking when eternal lives are at stake. The SDA culture has shifted, but this is the underlying current. We all know it's there and we can paste smiles on and pretend it's all loving, but there is something that is simply too self conscious about the whole gig. I'm not blaming anyone. It's rigged to be that way. Quote Rich http://tiny.cc/CM2j8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parade Orange Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 ITS NOT A MISTAKE WE ARE ALL BROKEN NO MAN IS FULLY INTERGRATED IN A SIN SICK WORLD MEN NEED MEN gOD CREATED US THAT WAY AND EVEN PERFECT ITS NOT GOOD TO BE ALONE GOD SAID THAT Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parade Orange Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 THE SDA CHURCH CULTURE OF LONE RANGER CHRISTIANS IS BECAUSE THE DEVIL HAS HAD HIS WAY IN OUR WESTERN CULTURE THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE IN JESUS THATS WHERE U BOND! AS U SAY WE DONT BOND IN JUDGEMENT JUDGEMENT FROM OTHERS FOR SURE EGW SAYS PRESS TOGETHER PRESS TOGETHER AND THE bIBLE SAYS WE ARE NOT TO FORSAKE ASSEMBLY AS WE SEE HIS DAY APPROACHING FOR ENCOURAGEMNET OF EACH OTHER WE HAVE A SICK SDA CULTURE TO COMBAT DAVID AND JONATHON STORY IS FOR MEN ITS NOT THERE AS A MISTAKE OR A FOOTNOTE SCARY ADVENTISTS EVERYWHERE DEFACING THE IMAGE OF GOD TEARING THE IDEAL OF IMAGAE OF GOD APART AND ALL THE WHILE MEN ARE ARMS LENGTH TO THEIR OWN PERIL WHILE HEAPING ABUSE ON EACH OTHER Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parade Orange Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOMOSEXUALITY SOUNDS HOMOPHOBIC NOTHING NEW FROM FROM CHRISTIAN MEN WHO OUR OUT OF TOUCH WITH THEMSELVES AND OTHERS Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planey Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 PO, please don't shout at us! It's hard to focus on the message when you're being shouted at. Graeme Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parade Orange Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 i didnt mean to shout though this place ignores my posts alot i have a new puter which doesnt have a cap light and i look down when i type so ive been capping without meaning to on all facebook and and other forums i apologize Quote All progress in the Spiritual Life is knowing and Loving GOD"there is non upon earth that I desire besides YOU" PS 73:25That perspective changes EVERYTHING-suffering and adversity are the means that makes us hungry for GOD. Disapointments will wean us away wordly occupations. Even sin(when repented of) becomes a mechanism to push us closer to HIM as we experience His Love and Forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted November 3, 2012 Members Share Posted November 3, 2012 You are forgiven PO. Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planey Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 PO, I was writing tic, that's why I put the smilie in! No worries, I appreciate (really appreciate) your posts. Graeme Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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