cricket Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Manners, etiquette and courtesy do not abide by geographical boundaries, caste systems, societal status; nor are they contingent upon racial, gender, creed, mentality or physicality differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted February 10, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 10, 2013 Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Thank you, dgrimm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. T. Cross Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 That is a great point Cricket, and might I add that those things do not acknowledge the boundaries of religion either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 EmptyCross, I agree completely! I thought I'd included religion though. Is creed not the same thing? Or, is it different to a substantial degree? (Honest question here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. T. Cross Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Now that you mention it, I am not sure. A creed I think is more like a personal worldview and mantra kind of thing. I could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatisthis Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 That's an excellent thought Cricket, but hmmm, it may not be entirely true, depending on how you look at it. Culture greatly affects what is polite. In some cultures, for instance, it is a horrific and unthinkable act to eat with your left hand because -- well anyway, I want to be polite so won't get into the reason why. In some cultures it is unthinkable to touch someone's head, a total act of dishonor. And there are many more like taboos that very widely from area to area. The Wycliffe translators spend a great deal of training on the non-linguistic pursuit of studying how to quickly discover the way to be culturally sensitive. However, if we mean by politeness, that successful humanity cares about what IS polite--that's true. Good manners means trying to honor each other, to go to great lengths to show courtesy. That goal does not vary from culture to culture when the heart is love-filled. Quote more later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well, I'm looking at it with the best intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatisthis Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Empty Cross, hey, we are getting into an area that often brings offense when we speak of the differences in religious creeds! The reason is that the very essence of who you are is what you worship--and how. Since change for the positive is part of every religious system's goals, though, is it possibly possible to ruminate upon such things anyway, without offense? And how far do we politely go to say things like "The theological bridge is out just around this corner!" Quote more later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted February 22, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 22, 2013 i read somewhere that true religion was sincerity itself. so i think... this would make people who are sincerely kind very religious, even if they had no interest in religion or exposure of preference of any kind. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMo Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Both Christian and non-Christian holy writing talks about esteeming others more than ourselves. Isn't that what kindness, manners, politeness, and courtesy is all about? If we honor a benevolent deity, we should automatically honor each other. That doesn't necessarily mean that we roll over and agree with everyone else on everything. We can honor each other, even in disagreement. Theology should not even enter into the equation. We should endeavor treat everyone with equal respect and honor. Period. It may be splitting hairs, but I would say that true "spirituality" rather than "religion" is sincerity itself. Whenever I think of "religion", I think of "denomination". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 debbym, I have met, both in person and online, an individual who was sincere in their religious pursuit of truth. This person was sincere when they worshiped God; sincere when they worshiped Satan; and sincere when they entirely gave up on belief in any sort of supernatural ruler/creator. All the while, that person was the kindest, most sincere and thoughtful person I've ever known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted February 23, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 23, 2013 I am so glad God sees the heart, and this person is not in any way under God's condemnation for their religious changes. How wonderful they are able to remain sincere and kind, this is a great blessing to them. Some people came to Jesus and said, when did we do good, and Jesus said something like, when you do it for the weakest person you have done it to me. perhaps this person will have a great reward when Jesus comes. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMo Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 deb, As usual, awesome post. You are an extremely spiritually gifted person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted February 23, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 23, 2013 I think a creed is something like a mission statement. it is as brief as possible and is a set of statements that will preserve the purpose and the defining positions of the organizers, so that the organization will be able to continue to be understood and maintained after those who created it will have passed from the scene. i believe it is about self perpetuation from generation to generation. and to be able to survive the generation gap is what makes the wording so important. it tries to capture the timeless rather then the timely. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 I think that's what "a" creed is, true. But sometimes "creed" is used to denote religious affiliation, isn't it? That's what I was intending to say in the original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 A creed also seems like it is a box that you have to fully accept and not question the contents, ie you are one of us if..... Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted February 24, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 24, 2013 yes a creed is for unifying all who are agreed to it, and it is a point of accountability. If you shift from it, you can be brought back to it and either conform or disassociate from that organization. we do not have a creed, as a creed is used to forcibly unify, rather then unity coming from the Spirit within. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 I think I'm not being clear. Unfortunately, I cannot describe better what I am intending to say (re: "a creed" vs. "creed"), so I'll just leave this thread as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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