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The makeup of the church is far more important than the makeup of the pastor. It's usually the members that destroy a church's ministry rather than the pastor. OF course the members often times destroy the pastor.

Preach! Woody Preach!

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

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The makeup of the church is far more important than the makeup of the pastor. It's usually the members that destroy a church's ministry rather than the pastor. OF course the members often times destroy the pastor.

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I know there are times pastors need to be held in check, but destroying a pastor's ministry is beyond the pale.

When I hear of someone bragging about how they "chased off a pastor", I know I am dealing with a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Blessings,

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OF course the members often times destroy the pastor.
.....and even boast about it!! Think I would put up a lightning rod being around such a person...just saying!

Amen! I saw this happen at a large church I used to go to - twice in 3 years. Furthermore, it followed the secular "Golden Rule" - you know - "he who has the gold rules".

The wealthy people in the church started a campaign complaining to the conferece about the pastors - both very reasonable men - and they were suddenly gone. A bunch of people who saw what was going on also left - some leaving the denomination altogether and some just transferring membership. It was a very sad situation.

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Originally Posted By: Woody
The makeup of the church is far more important than the makeup of the pastor. It's usually the members that destroy a church's ministry rather than the pastor. OF course the members often times destroy the pastor.

Preach! Woody Preach!

Can I believe my ears? Or in this case my eyes? ???

May we be one so that the world may be won.
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If I had a problem with my local church, I'd probably go to another close by rather than have a confrontation. If there is not another church, then I'd follow Mt 18's counsel. In fact, in my present mindset, I would probably do the latter first. My wife was getting very annoyed with the almost weekly altar calls. So I took our pastor to lunch and had a private talk with him. That took care of the problem.
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