Textus Receptus Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Well, according the the article we are batting 500. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/28/when-religious-beliefs-becomes-evil-4-signs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Oplinger Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Which two do we flunk on, Kemosabe? :) Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeb Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Which two do we flunk on, Kemosabe? If "the end is near" is a red flag, well, almost all of Christianity fits that description. Couldn't possibly be an anti-Christian slant written by someone who is against Christianity could it? Every religion could be classified as "I have the truth and you don't". Thus, this couldn't just be an anti-religion slant as well as anti-Christianity could it? Couldn't be any far left nut out there wanting to demonize all religions and faiths could it? That's an animal that doesn't exist, right? Remember how sad the media was that it wasn't a right-wing conspiracy in the Boston bombing? A natural response to that disappointment in trying to define everything in even more humanistic terms? Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted April 30, 2013 Members Share Posted April 30, 2013 Its better than batting .125! Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted April 30, 2013 Administrators Share Posted April 30, 2013 i think this artical is very very good. the part, "thew end justifies the means" is where there is no longer any principles governing actions, and then the religion is able to do horrible things. i searched for an origin of this and found lots of places given credit, Machiavelli, the Marxists, and even Plato is given credit for warning against the law that the end justifies the means."The Greek playwright Sophocles wrote in Electra (c 409 B.C.), 'The end excuses any evil,' a thought later rendered by the Roman poet Ovid as 'The result justifies the deed' in 'Heroides' (c. 10 B.C.)." From "Wise Words and Wives' Tales: The Origins, Meanings and Time-Honored Wisdom of Proverbs and Folk Sayings Olde and New" by Stuart Flexner and Doris Flexner (Avon Books, New York, 1993). Quote: end justifies the means “The End justifies the Means” is a maxim which originated in an accusation made by Protestants against the Jesuits. Although few would openly proclaim such a cynical maxim, it is clearly the conception which justified the atrocities of Stalinism and the use of terror by some who claimed to be pursuing the socialist objective. The idea that some means (such as the use of violence against political opponents, or lying to the working class) which is inconsistent with the aim (socialism, world peace) can in some way serve that end is untenable. There is always some “tension” between Ends and Means – Means refer always to existing conditions as they are while the End refers to how things ought to be. Jesus never moved from the principles of heaven. He will never violate the will of anyone for a good cause, throughout the whole great controversy, even when death comes on the final day, every tongue will confess and every knee bow and acknowledge that God is good and that their end is right. Every lie will be exposed. It will be seen this challenge of sin has met in every instance with purity and fairness, and love. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeb Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 the part, "thew end justifies the means" is where there is no longer any principles governing actions, and then the religion is able to do horrible things. Why single out just religion? When that maxim is adopted anyone with any philosophy or belief system is capable of doing massive amounts of harm. This has far more to do with human nature than with religion. Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted April 30, 2013 Administrators Share Posted April 30, 2013 Quote: Why single out just religion? When that maxim is adopted anyone with any philosophy or belief system is capable of doing massive amounts of harm. This has far more to do with human nature than with religion. this expression has always been about human nature. People tend to have higher expectations of religion, that somehow something better then human nature is going to arrive there. So religion is singled out for attention when it operates on this principle. so when in religion there is no higher standard then the power play anywhere else.... that is when religion expresses evil. Among the human race a minority have a true conscience. Within religion or outside of religion it remains the same, there are a few who will hold to principle. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Quote: Jesus never moved from the principles of heaven. He will never violate the will of anyone for a good cause, throughout the whole great controversy, even when death comes on the final day, every tongue will confess and every knee bow and acknowledge that God is good and that their end is right. Every lie will be exposed. It will be seen this challenge of sin has met in every instance with purity and fairness, and love. x2 And I would like to suggest that includes the annihilation of the finally unrepentant. God cares! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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