there buster Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Have you ever read Herman Mellville's "The Kingdom of the Blind?" It's not what you might expect. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Quote: I am always amazed when people make such statements seriously. Then we agree. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted September 26, 2005 Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2005 Ed Dickerson said: Quote: People use America's failures to perfectly reflect the ideals they aspire to as reasons to trash America. There was not simply a failure perfectly reflect. "Oh dear, we just didn't get it 100% right"! There was an intentional, systematic and sucessful attemtpt to counteract the aspiriations of America. The Jim Crow laws were a deliberate attempt to deny liberties to Americans. The language used reveals an inability or a refusal to accept the dispicable injustice that was practiced by Ameircans on Americans. No one is trashing (saying that America has no good) America. That is a straw man that you conveniently erect. Quote: But reprehensible behavior by countries that don't aspire to anything more than national greed often goes without comment. When America was supporting dispicable regimes across the world there were numerous organisations that were challenging and exposing those regimes for what they are. You don't hear about it because perhaps the commentators you listen to don't mention it. When there was an outcry about Saddam's gassing of the Kurds Rumsfeldt goes over there and shakes his hand! Thats why the world does not take America's "jonny come lately" approach to despotic regimes in the world. Quote: But I'm sure we don't want to talk about that. I'm happy to talk about Sudan and Zimbabwe. I have friends from Zimbabwe and we talk about the situation all the time. Why are you so sure about what I am willing to talk about? Is it because of your warped perception of what what I think simply because I critise America. OR IS IT BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS YOU DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Please remember that typing all in capitals is considered yelling. Really, we dont need to yell at each other. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted September 26, 2005 Moderators Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to yell. I tend to talk loudly when I get emotional Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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