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Why do some Christians have such a hard time admitting that Augustine, Luther, & Calvin (along with a number of other Church leaders) made anti-Semitic statements?

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Why do some Christians have such a hard time admitting that Augustine, Luther, & Calvin (along with a number of other Church leaders) made anti-Semitic statements?

 

probably because the statements are so "anti-Christian" in nature (i.e., instruction to burn Jewish family homes, as well as synagogues), and it makes some people uncomfortable to think that the church fathers said/wrote such things..

 

(it's my opinion that the anti-semitic comments were/are made out of fear and/or jealousy of the Jews...)

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Why?  Because they are not informed of the facts.

 

Luther made a lot of statements that would sour milk.

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Luther made a lot of statements that would sour milk.

However the many statements he made that did reveal milk and honey have lived to this day in which all of us can revel in:

 

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/martin_luther.html

 

4"Behold, as for the proud one, His soul is not right within him; But the righteous will live by his faith....Hab 2

 

16know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified...Gal 2

 

God is Love! Jesus saves! :smiley:

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I was under the impression that Luther eventually changed his opinion of the statements he made about Jews??

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By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1}
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I've done some research into this subject over the years, and Martin Luther didn't begin to make antisemitic statements until towards the end of his life.  At the time he was suffering from many major health issues including depression.  He had heart problems, severe arthritis, kidney stones, and various digestive issues.   I also wonder if he didn't suffer from something like alzheimer's as well for he began to be quite vulgar too.  His writings were just as bitter and vulgar about the pope as they were against the Jews during this portion of his life.

 

 When we see these kinds of behavioral changes in people in the last years of their lives it's very hard to dismiss alzheimers, dementia, as well as the issues lack of oxygen in the brain due to heart problems can cause, as not being at the root of them.  

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