Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted December 16, 2014 Members Share Posted December 16, 2014 There's a lot of controversy regarding abortions and whether or not a fetus should have legal rights as a human being. That's not what this topic is about, however. Adventist beliefs include the idea that babies who have died will be in heaven (*which* babies will be determined by God's judgment). My question is, do the anti-abortion members believe that since fetuses are human beings, that the aborted (including the spontaneously aborted, medically aborted, and and illegally aborted) fetuses will be in heaven? If so, will the mothers be pregnant again to carry the fetuses to full-term viability? Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliensanctuary Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Or, will fetuses who died along with their mothers still be viable in the womb at the resurrection? I can see the resurrected mothers delivering their unborn children during the 1K years of the Kingdom on Earth. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted December 19, 2014 Administrators Share Posted December 19, 2014 It also goes beyond fetuses. Many of the so-called pro-life advocates stake their position on human life beginning at conception. That has been the fodder of debates and litigation over what to do with frozen embryos that are saved for in vitro fertilization. Pam, as you noted, spontaneous abortion or miscarriages would come into play. How would God sort out those? What if the mother is not saved? Will God find surrogate mothers to carry those embryos to term? Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lineman Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Jesus said that if we ask anything of the Father He will do it for us, right? Then if a mother who lost her child before it was born asks the Father to save that little one, don't you think He will do it? As far as the embryo goes, I do not expect that ANY person who ends up in Heaven will be concerned about all of the embryos who will not have a caring parent. Someone once told me that Ellen White says that those types of people (small unwanted children and embryos) will just cease to exist (without punishment). Quote Visit and Share the BibleTimelines.com URL ! (Explain the Gospel in just a few minutes, or maybe even seconds.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Sorry, we will be as the angels. Angels are neither male nor female. Edited April 11, 2015 by Tom Wetmore No quote zone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauralea Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I think they will be like they never existed in the main. Quote Behold what manner of love the Father hath given unto us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoAspen Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I believe the type of life God started on this earth will continue in the new world. I do not see Him as starting this whole story line and then say "Okay, now I am going to change everything". So....is he the same yesterday, today and tomorrow or not? Mans understanding should change, if we are progressing, but sometimes I wonder. If God is going to reunite families in the new resurrection, why bother if He is going to change everything later. Sounds more like Greek Gods to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) I disagree.... Edited April 12, 2015 by Tom Wetmore No quote zone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It is said that there is no marriage in heaven so who is going to raise these kids? When God created Adam he saw that Adam needed a help mate so he created Eve to make His creation perfect and good. If there is no marriage in the New world, is God abandoning the original creation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliensanctuary Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I suspect that those who are resurrected into the Kingdom of YHVH will essentially all be children, according to Christ, raised and taught by the Messengers. If there are infants who have undergone the wash-up in the River of Life, they, too, will be well-taken care of. After the memory wipe in the River, there won't be much about the previous life to remember. Those chosen to join the Kingdom will be trained in the work they are assigned to do to support the new civilization. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 That is not how I understand the new world would be. I understand those adults will be restores to our prime age. I thought all will be restored to the state before Adam fell. This means husband and wife living together. If one does not remember how we lived on this earth why do we spend a thousand years looking through the books why "so and so" did not make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think that when the New Earth is re-created that we will have our families again, or make new ones. Jesus loved little children, I can't imagine never hearing little children laugh and play ever again once this batch is all raised. CoAspen 1 Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted April 26, 2015 Moderators Share Posted April 26, 2015 On target. The Bible is clear: GOD does not charge us with sin that we have not been convicted of by the Holy Spirit. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony! Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Shelley and I have had two miscarriages, one late miscarriage, and a stillbirth. We have one child, Garrett. If you wish to believe that god will bring these unborn loved ones to you, then the comfort is yours to have. In the past I used to wrestle with such issues, but now I see them as pointless theory and conjecture. This will answer many of your questions regarding this subject..http://library.ellenwhite.org/content/file/babies-sinnful-mothers?numFound=22918&collection=true&curr=13853&sqid=901565233#documenthttp://biblelight.net/JS/Resurrection%20of%20Babies.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Ellen White should not be the last word. She always pointed to the Bible as the final authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Am sure both of those were among the most painful experience anyone can have. I remember a quote, not sure where it is,,, something like this, "This child within me, is full of the Holy Spirit" or something similar.. It showed that the baby is a baby. Naomi 1 Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unchained Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Stan, you're most likely thinking of Luke 1:15 and Luke 1:41, 44... My personal opinion is that even unborn Children have value in the eyes of God. We don't know how, but I think God is more than able to take care of unborn children that died while they were in the wombs of their unconverted mothers. Edited May 30, 2015 by Unchained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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