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Another thread talked about re-Baptizing people, giving extra numbers for events..

Here is another situation...

It is well known that some Churches do not take off names of people who are rebaptized... one Pastor told me that one person was on his books 4 times. Variation of names, remarried etc..

WHY?

One segment of our Church gets bonus bucks from the Mother Ship in Silver Springs, every year based on membership.

Seems like there is a simple solution, right?

Care to guess what the problem is with fixing it?

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This issue is addressing those who have their name on the books more than one time... sometimes even in the same Church...

Example, some one being baptized 4 times, each in a different Church...

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This is interesting. I was rebaptised and my name was already on the books. Later, my wife and I moved to Texas and had our membership transferred. About three years later I recieved a very nice letter from the current pastor of where I had been baptised. He was cleaning up the books. He told me that since I no longer lived there he would like to either transfer my membership or remove it. He did kindly add that if I didn't wish for either it could remain with that church if I so desired.

I checked with the pastor and secretary of the church we were attending to verify our membership had been transferred. Sure enough, it had been. They even had the date it came in. So I wrote a nice letter back, telling him my membership had already been transfered and he could remove my name from their church's membership.

Now I wonder if I wasn't on their books twice and only one of my memberships was transferred. Now that is odd. If I had known that before maybe I would have insisted on two votes at board meetings grin.gif

One benefit to removing extra memberships is it will reflect better on the amount of tithe being collected. $6,000/week from 100 members looks better than $6,000/week from 125 people.

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I have some experience in church membership because I used to look after our BC Conference Church membership and the over all conference membership data base for about five years. I know that we tried many times to contact those on the conference church list to find them and we would send a card asking what they wanted to do with their membership. Many of them we had lost contact with and the practise is that if you have a paper trail showing you had tried to contact them at a given address for from 4-5 times over several years with no success, they can be dropped as missing. We did that for several people on the list. So it is possible to clean up the books to a certain extent.

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Book membership has effects in all kinds of areas. For large churches it may affect the amount of pastors they can have or admin staff. It can affect the amount of delegates sent to a session. It is in the political interest of the

pastor to maintain the highest membership or course it may not be what Jesus would do!!!!

My guess is that in the developed world that book membership in many churches is often one third larger than the actual attendance.

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But on the other hand (at least in our conference), the book membership dictates the amount of our church's school subsidy to the local academy. It's better for us to keep an actual membership count, rather than a fictitiously high number, so we aren't required to pay more than our share of the school subsidy.

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I had a church transfer my membership to their church without my consent. So now I'm officially the member of a church I visit occasionally but do not attend regularly.

When I started going back to church in 2004 I felt I should be rebaptized because I'd been so long away from God and indeed should have been considered to have apostasized since I had been in the occult & all that. But they don't seem to care, as long as my name is on the books. I bet they'd start caring if I had an M.Div. and was sniffing out ordination, though ... they'd start caring REAL QUICK what I'd been up to 10 years ago ... and I'd be all like, "hey, that's the past -- over dead & gone, right?"

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The NAD seems very relaxed about membership. In the IAD they stay on top of it better and disfellowship members often. Yet they still manage to grow faster than they can build churches.

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What does IAD stand for again?

I've recently started going to this new church and I really like it. It's a more traditional service which I prefer, but not uber-formal "high church". People there are friendly so far and have already been very welcoming. I might discuss the possibility of rebaptism with the pastor there and see what he thinks. If the church thinks some type of formal discipline is in order for the life I've left behind, that's fine with me. Better now than at some indeterminate point in the future. My trust is in the Lord, and my life is in His hands. Whatever will glorify Him most is what I care about.

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