California legislation seeks to prevent LGBT discrimination in higher education

[Stan]

The California legislature is considering two bills that would make it difficult for religious colleges and universities to discriminate on the basis of gender identity.

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[rudywoofs (Pam)]

Of what sort of discrimination by universities are LGBT students now subjected?  I thought universities were supposed to teach students.  Are LGBT students unable to attend classes due to discrimination?

[GayatfootofCross]

In more conservative areas of CA prejudice and bigotry reigns.

It comes out in big policies and the subtlest forms in every way.

Teachers parents students administration all have their own thoughts and feelings about this.

A bill helping institutionalized  roadblocking  of hate and ignorance  is sorely needed.

In other states as well ..if anyone reads the news.

This was never a God problem.

It has always been a people problem.

 

 

 

 

[GayatfootofCross]

I live in a very conservative area in CA

Everything changes in too many Christian's eyes when they realize you a Queer!

 

One day many may realize how blessed I am of GOD!

..and the look in their eyes can hold like for everyone else.

 

 

[bonnie]

On 5/3/2016 at 11:14 AM, rudywoofs (Pam) said:

Of what sort of discrimination by universities are LGBT students now subjected?  I thought universities were supposed to teach students.  Are LGBT students unable to attend classes due to discrimination?

The gay marriage bill is only the tip of the ice berg. If this goes thru as I understand it our academies and colleges will have to employ teachers in same sex marriages.

 

 

AB 1888 (Low), as amended May 2, 2016, would condition state grant money on the promise that institutions will not subject applicants, students, or employees to discrimination on the basis of sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion, or any other characteristic that is "contained in the prohibition of hate crimes" in Section 422.6(a) of the California Penal Code. Further, these institutions will have to certify that they will not apply for or receive a waiver from the U.S. Department of Education from federal non-discrimination regulations under Title IX. Institutions that do have a Title IX waiver would need to relinquish it by the beginning of the 2017-18 academic year.

[Aliensanctuary]

Ultimately, Christians will be required to post prominent yellow crosses on their homes and businesses, and, wear yellow crosses on their clothing. This would be done to protect the LGBT's from the so-called "vile hatred" of said Christians.

Following that identification process comes the jailings, the hangings, and the beheadings of Christians, which would be considered neither hatred nor discrimination. There's nothing more insidious than good-hearted, respectable church-going people who refuse to bow the knee and embrace and promote a lifestyle that their Creator forbids. In the end, the LORD will look down upon the Earth and see that it is Sodom and Gomorrah. We all know how that story ended.

Muslims, of course, will be exempt from the laws banning "discrimination" by religions. They will be the guillotine operators.

Once religious institutions are no longer allowed to choose their employees based on their beliefs, there will no longer be a purpose for their existence, and they will either submit to the gay agenda or go away. The loss of higher Christian education will only result in increased crime and speed up the demise of this country by narrowing the Christian base and lifestyle. Without Christians, this country will be in serious trouble.

[bonnie]

On 5/3/2016 at 1:14 PM, rudywoofs (Pam) said:

Of what sort of discrimination by universities are LGBT students now subjected?  I thought universities were supposed to teach students.  Are LGBT students unable to attend classes due to discrimination?

 

 

 

AB 1888 (Low), as amended May 2, 2016, would condition state grant money on the promise that institutions will not subject applicants, students, or employees to discrimination on the basis of sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion, or any other characteristic that is "contained in the prohibition of hate crimes" in Section 422.6(a) of the California Penal Code. Further, these institutions will have to certify that they will not apply for or receive a waiver from the U.S. Department of Education from federal non-discrimination regulations under Title IX. Institutions that do have a Title IX waiver would need to relinquish it by the beginning of the 2017-18 academic year.

Will it now be considered hate speech to follow our understanding of the bible and declare this to be wrong? It May not pass the first time but it will be brought back again and again until it does. Inch by inch

 

 

So what is the problem with this bill?

As has been determined by many,here included the gay/lesbian lifestyle 

1. Is not contagious

2. Does not impact anyone's traditional marriage

3.If you don't want a same sex marriage,simply don't have one

4.Any that have been opposed to the  LGBT  lifestyle are homophobic hateful bigots

5 God loves those of this lifestyle as much as anyone else

6.It is no worse and at times not as bad as other sins. 

7. Many religious groups have come out in support,even many SDA's as this is only fair and right.

8.Is it even really wrong? Some SDA's are not even sure so how can we stand against something until the biblical scholars have spoken?

[Tom Wetmore]

The First Amendment remains in the Constitution. At the federal level, the relevant statutory law still has an exemption for churches and religious organizations from the prohibition of discrimination on the basis of religion.  In terms of employment, that permits religiously based preferential employment practices.  In other words, churches and church affiliated employers are still able to hire only members of the church and/or employees that uphold/adhere to and support the beliefs and teachings of the Church.  An employee that does not conduct themselves consitent with the teachings and beliefs of the Church can still be subject to discipline up to and including termination from employment.  That has not changed.

State laws are a mixed bag on whether they have such exemptions or specifically the extent of the exemption. Things are less certain at the state law level.  But The First Amendment still applies to the states. 

That said, the state of the law has a lot of gaps and uncertainty.  

[GayatfootofCross]

9 hours ago, Aliensanctuary said:

Ultimately, Christians will be required to post prominent yellow crosses on their homes and businesses, and, wear yellow crosses on their clothing. This would be done to protect the LGBT's from the so-called "vile hatred" of said Christians.

Following that identification process comes the jailings, the hangings, and the beheadings of Christians, which would be considered neither hatred nor discrimination. There's nothing more insidious than good-hearted, respectable church-going people who refuse to bow the knee and embrace and promote a lifestyle that their Creator forbids. In the end, the LORD will look down upon the Earth and see that it is Sodom and Gomorrah. We all know how that story ended.

Muslims, of course, will be exempt from the laws banning "discrimination" by religions. They will be the guillotine operators.

Once religious institutions are no longer allowed to choose their employees based on their beliefs, there will no longer be a purpose for their existence, and they will either submit to the gay agenda or go away. The loss of higher Christian education will only result in increased crime and speed up the demise of this country by narrowing the Christian base and lifestyle. Without Christians, this country will be in serious trouble.

 

 

I don't know your impression of me but I must say one thing that I said at least twice(?) upon my arrival.

And I doubt everyone makes it a point to find and read and reflect all my posts on this topic.

Hence I repeat myself in layers.

I will now once again type something very important for people to know about my Christian thoughts.

 

 

Never violate the conscience!

I just pray People will let God form the conscience towards LGBTI.

 

 

[bonnie]

1 hour ago, GayatfootofCross said:

 

 

I don't know your impression of me but I must say one thing that I said at least twice(?) upon my arrival.

And I doubt everyone makes it a point to find and read and reflect all my posts on this topic.

Hence I repeat myself in layers.

I will now once again type something very important for people to know about my Christian thoughts.

 

 

Never violate the conscience!

I just pray People will let God form the conscience towards LGBTI.

 

 

The conscience of many is already being violated. This law is about forcing religious institutions to violate their beliefs and teachings.

You have already come out for the use of force. Hate and ignorance is not behind what they see as biblical teaching

 

n more conservative areas of CA prejudice and bigotry reigns.

It comes out in big policies and the subtlest forms in every way.

Teachers parents students administration all have their own thoughts and feelings about this.

A bill helping institutionalized  roadblocking  of hate and ignorance  is sorely needed.

In other states as well ..if anyone reads the news.

This was never a God problem.

It has always been a people problem.