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[lazarus]

43 minutes ago, bonnie said:

So BLM cannot be challenged but All Lives Matter can be? Convenient

Of course you can challenge BLM. People do it all the time. Who said that they can't be challenged?

[bonnie]

This student did and there certainly were consequences.

[lazarus]

1 hour ago, bonnie said:

This student did and there certainly were consequences.

Anybody can challenge anything but sometimes there are consequences. She is a representative of the student body therefore the students have a right to hold their representative accountable. Members of congress can say what they want, for example, but their constituents can vote them out if they don't like what they say. This girl was voted in. The student body has the right to challenge her. Do you disagree with that?

[bonnie]

36 minutes ago, lazarus said:

Anybody can challenge anything but sometimes there are consequences. She is a representative of the student body therefore the students have a right to hold their representative accountable. Members of congress can say what they want, for example, but their constituents can vote them out if they don't like what they say. This girl was voted in. The student body has the right to challenge her. Do you disagree with that?

Possibly being representative of the student body means to you that the only free speech she is allowed. She didn't threaten,name call  etc. The time she said this was when five PO were killed.  Because a organization adopts a slogan the world is not bound by that. Just as the world is not bound by ALM. If you were to reverse the circumstances and this was a white org treating a black member in this manner the mess it would become

You decide that All Lives Matter is somehow meant in a derogatory manner towards the black community. Your taking it that way doesn't make it law or so. BLM seems somewhat derogatory towards the many black lives that don't seem to matter. 

 Before the BLM the black org took little notice of the senseless loss of black lives. Yes,those that are killed,black or white by PO should be investigated,when appropriate should be punished.  It should not be an excuse for rioting,looting and burning.

If this black organization has a true concern for black lives,not just those they can riot over there is much they could do. Articles are beginning to call out the BLM by victims of the flooding. Not by politicians but the people black and white trying to survive wondering where they are. If there had been a shooting they would be there rioting and looting

Punishing someone for not viewing it in the same way really isn't going to accomplish much

[lazarus]

2 hours ago, bonnie said:

Before the BLM the black org took little notice of the senseless loss of black lives.

What's the black org?

[bonnie]

12 minutes ago, lazarus said:

What's the black org?

Typo,before the black org of BLM

[D_Bishop]

It is a blatant lie that black groups like the naacp are not sensitive to and are aware of violence in the black community.  Besides conservatives and those on the right do not care about the issue other than using it as a convenient club to whack their political opponents with.

[bonnie]

On 8/24/2016 at 6:07 AM, D_Bishop said:

It is a blatant lie that black groups like the naacp are not sensitive to and are aware of violence in the black community.  Besides conservatives and those on the right do not care about the issue other than using it as a convenient club to whack their political opponents with.

Being aware of or sensitive to something doesn't do a whole lot. 

IMagine if the energy and hatred from BLM was directed towards the flood victims in a positive way.“What is BLM doing for Louisiana? Y’all are good at getting together to protest, well why haven’t y’all gotten together to help out? I guess BLM only when convenient.” – Charlene Realegeno-Molina“You want to know why they aren’t in Louisiana? It’s because that’s not part of their concept” – Glory Ford

 

 

#blacklivesmatter didn’t receive the welcoming they were expecting in Louisiana.  The movement has been criticized all week for not offering any form of assistance to the African-American families who lost everything in the Louisiana floods.  The movement finally decided to head to Louisiana, but not to help the local residents as one might think. Instead, they used their time there to stir up a ruckus and protest against police brutality.   Local residents complained of receiving no donations from #blacklivesmatter.   They accuse the movement of only caring about a black lives when the black life is taken by law enforcement, but not when blacks are the victims of a natural disaster.  No way to politicize mother nature unless your name is Al Gore.

“This is the most you have done after you came and raised hell and stirred up a mess. Where are the donations from your organization? Boats to rescue people? Food for the hungry? Where are the marches and protests for the homeless and those who lost everything?” – Manolo Espinal

“What is BLM doing for Louisiana? Y’all are good at getting together to protest, well why haven’t y’all gotten together to help out? I guess BLM only when convenient.” – Charlene Realegeno-Molina

“You want to know why they aren’t in Louisiana? It’s because that’s not part of their concept” – Glory Ford

“I guess black lives only really matter to those activists when they’ve been taken by cops, not when they’ve been saved by cops. Which is happening every single day down here. White people and black people, including Baton Rouge police officers (half of whom lost their homes), working together to save white people and black people and all kinds of people.” – Mr. Dreher

People need to realize that #blacklivesmatter offers nothing to comfort suffering black lives other than the politicization of their misery. Blacklivesmatter is not the cure for racism, it is the seed from which racism grows. This group obviously do not care about Black Lives, if they did, why aren’t they helping out there helping local black residents? There have been hundreds of stories of people of all races working together to help one another in Louisiana, yet #blacklivesmatter isn’t among that group. The only reason #blacklivesmatter is in Louisiana is to leech off the public spotlight. Rather than help the victims, they’d rather distract the media coverage of their re-emergence from the ashes.

I don’t understand what is so hard to understand when faced with the obvious facts. #Blacklivesmatter is the equivalent of a 5-year-old child throwing a temper tantrum when his parents don’t give him enough attention. They are in Louisiana now throwing a temper tantrum because the media chose to cover the Louisiana flood instead of them, as they only care about themselves. There is really no other way to explain their lack of assistance after visiting Louisiana.

I’m sure a small group of them will help somewhere now, and the media will parade it around as #blacklivesmatter helps Louisiana flood victims.

 

 

 

[bonnie]

 

 

 

US NEWS

 

 

Black Lives Matter Finally Arrive In Baton Rouge, What They Do Instead Of Help Flood Victims Is SICKENING

 

The Black Lives Matter movement has received a lot of justified heat over the past few days from the black communities in Louisiana for being completely absent and too preoccupied with other things to come help the black flood victims. Well after hearing the cries for help the Black Lives Matter movement finally came to Baton Rouge, but it wasn’t to help feed or house the recently homeless, they came to protest ‘unlawful’ arrests on “behalf” of the black residents of Louisiana.

The BLM protesters weren’t quite met with the reaction that they expected. It would seem the black flood victims saw right through the lies and had had quite enough of the hypocritical movement.

For every one criminal offender that the Black Lives Matter chooses to rally behind and attempt to create violence and outrage across the country there are thousands of other blacks who are actually in need of help and are completely ignored by the Black Lives Matter movement.

After thousands were left homeless and 13 people lost their lives in the catastrophic flooding in Louisiana Black Lives Matter didn’t utter a single peep. When the black residents affected by the flood called them out for their hypocritical behavior they became even more silent.

Now they’ve finally chosen to show their faces in Baton Rouge, but rather than helping the flood victims they have done what they do best attack the police and make things harder for an already struggling city.

The BLM activists have come out saying that they will be suing Baton Rouge police and protesting against ‘unlawful’ arrests in the broken and battered city, only making jobs of the police and other aid workers and volunteers, who are actually trying to help the flood victims, harder.

This was the final straw. The black flood victims of Baton Rouge couldn’t take it anymore and came after the BLM as soon as they made their announcement. They have hit the BLM for the blatant fraudulence and duplicity and are making sure that the BLM understands that they are not welcome back in Baton Rouge.

One resident Manolo Espinal had this to say, “This is the most you have done after you [came] and raised hell and stirred up [a] mess… Where are the donations from your organization?”He went on to say, “oats to rescue people? Food for the hungry? Where are the marches and protests for the homeless and those who lost everything?”

“What is BLM doing for Louisiana? Y’all are good at getting together to protest, well why haven’t y’all gotten together to help out? I guess BLM only when convenient,” added Charlene Realegeno-Molina.

"You want to know why they aren’t in Louisiana? It’s because that’s not part of their concept," read one Facebook post from Glory Ford.

"I guess black lives only really matter to those activists when they’ve been taken by cops, not when they’ve been saved by cops. Which is happening every single day down here," added one Louisiana resident. "White people and black people, including Baton Rouge police officers (half of whom lost their homes), working together to save white people and black people and all kinds of people."

The criticism of the joke of a group is overwhelming and yet there are still some too ignorant or too blind to see the truth behind this group and insist on defending them still. They have asked what helping flood victims "has to do with an organization whose goal is to stop police abuse?"

Unfortunately for the BLM movement American Conservative’s Rod Dreher was able to tear this half hearted attempt at a defense into pieces. All he had to do was remind them of the list of demands that the BLM has come out with that have nothing to do with police violence such as as voting rights for illegal migrants, ending private and charter schools, and divestiture from fossil fuels.

And what about the name of the movement itself "Black Lives Matter?" Well apparently this movement has a very loose grasp of their own identity not to mention reality.

"I guess black lives only really matter to those activists when they’ve been taken by cops, not when they’ve been saved by cops. Which is happening every single day down here," responded Dreher, who is a Louisiana resident himself. "White people and black people, including Baton Rouge police officers (half of whom lost their homes), working together to save white people and black people and all kinds of people."

While Black Lives Matter protestors continue to wage war on police and make the job of the Baton Rouge police even harder in an already difficult time of crisis, the Baton Rouge, many of which have lost their homes as well continue to work hard to save the black flood victims who have been totally ignored by the members of the BLM.

Unfortunately these entitled Black Lives Matter thugs will just keep on protesting and trying to stop the police as they march past their fellow black citizens struggling to piece their life back together. It's clear to these victims

 

 

[D_Bishop]

Bonnie, people who think and probably look like you have been lynching, castrating and causing violence to black people for well over a few centuries in this country.  Quite a few of these incidents happened in the just passed 20th century.   Stories and photographs are all over the place.  And you got the nerve to talk about the violence of BLM?   

[bonnie]

1 hour ago, D_Bishop said:

Bonnie, people who think and probably look like you have been lynching, castrating and causing violence to black people for well over a few centuries in this country.  Quite a few of these incidents happened in the just passed 20th century.   Stories and photographs are all over the place.  And you got the nerve to talk about the violence of BLM?   

Interesting posts. I am going to assume that you feel better after lashing out with those kinds of accusations. I sure hope so.

Yes we can go back to what was a terrible time in this country . Won't change history but rehashing that to excuse present behavior works for some. 

None of what you have said changes the behavior or lack of response by BLM when they were called on for help by those in the flood area. Your accusations wont change anything for me in saying if all black lives matter they would have responded to a call for help. Had this been another shooting with a black victim and a white PO they would not have needed to be called,they would have turned out in mass,no matter what the circumstances of a shooting. Instead this by those in the black community and others......

 

Now they’ve finally chosen to show their faces in Baton Rouge, but rather than helping the flood victims they have done what they do best attack the police and make things harder for an already struggling city.

The BLM activists have come out saying that they will be suing Baton Rouge police and protesting against ‘unlawful’ arrests in the broken and battered city, only making jobs of the police and other aid workers and volunteers, who are actually trying to help the flood victims, harder.

This was the final straw. The black flood victims of Baton Rouge couldn’t take it anymore and came after the BLM as soon as they made their announcement. They have hit the BLM for the blatant fraudulence and duplicity and are making sure that the BLM understands that they are not welcome back in Baton Rouge.

If they were just as concerned about all black lives they would respond with the same kind of force when innocent black children are shot and killed by black gangs.

Having been in the shoes of those flood victims,just a little different circumstance,each and every one,black or white should be able to count on those that profess to care to do something.  Not show up to sue Baton Rouge.  Not have to be asked to help. The Mennonites, Evangelical Baptists and many other dreaded white people have or on their way to help everyone. Black churches that believe All Lives Matter are very active as well.  The ones absent or being shamed into helping are those that belong to the more militant groups. If there isn't political gain and to further fuel racism they simply are not interested. PO black and white are rescuing all that can be located.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

I don't know where the information came from that members of the BLM group went to Louisiana to protest after the flooding.  I could find no evidence of that. (There *is* the ongoing lawsuit against the police by Baton Rouge attorney, Roy Rodney Jr, who represents 3 BLM activists who claimed excessive force last month.)

The BLM is actually silent in the area right now — and they are definitely *not* doing active protests..

But I think the gentleman in the video has a point...

 

[bonnie]

There are a few articles on BLM going to the flood area.Several on the black community condemning their lack of aid for the victims. Do you doubt if a black suspect had been shot by a white PO they would be there looting and rioting? Didnt take long for the rioting to begin in Milwaukee when a black PO shot a black suspect armed with a semi automatic and a lengthy record including a shooting. Even tho it was black on black and the suspect pointed a gun at PO it was racism and Let's riot.

[D_Bishop]

I know this: people like you are not the end all, be all of my existence.  There is a God in heaven who transcends all this stupidity.  I got a feeling this world is going to rock and quake before He returns, but when he returns it will all be fixed.  

[D_Bishop]

You can video any handkerchief head uncle tom and get the sound bite you want to hear.  There are scores of people like that to be recorded.  

Besides, I don't think BLM exists.  I don't see any BLM trucks driving down the street.  I don't know of any BLM offices or buildings, or meeting places. Who is the BLM leader?  Every group has a leader.  There was this one guy they mentioned.  He's probably buried in a jail somewhere.   I think BLM is mostly a fabrication of the media, and keyboard bigot's fertile imagination.

I don't think blm, if it exists, has the money and infrastructure to help flood victims.  If they had the ability to help the government would of destroyed BLM by now.  They would have dropped a bomb on them like they did Move in Philadelphia, or Hiroshima, or black wall street in Tulsa.  They have not been destroyed yet because they really don't exist.  Anyone can get together and protest brutality and come up with a slogan.   They can not drop a bomb on a figment of their (your) imagination.

[bonnie]

3 hours ago, D_Bishop said:

You can video any handkerchief head uncle tom and get the sound bite you want to hear.  There are scores of people like that to be recorded.  

Besides, I don't think BLM exists.  I don't see any BLM trucks driving down the street.  I don't know of any BLM offices or buildings, or meeting places. Who is the BLM leader?  Every group has a leader.  There was this one guy they mentioned.  He's probably buried in a jail somewhere.   I think BLM is mostly a fabrication of the media, and keyboard bigot's fertile imagination.

I don't think blm, if it exists, has the money and infrastructure to help flood victims.  If they had the ability to help the government would of destroyed BLM by now.  They would have dropped a bomb on them like they did Move in Philadelphia, or Hiroshima, or black wall street in Tulsa.  They have not been destroyed yet because they really don't exist.  Anyone can get together and protest brutality and come up with a slogan.   They can not drop a bomb on a figment of their (your) imagination.

Not agreeing with those that want to keep the hatred alive is being an Uncle Tom? 

You denial of BLM existing really doesn't mean much when every time there is a potential to yell race,let's riot is very visible.

The government doesn't seem to have destroyed the New Black Panthers. The national guard was threatened in Milwaukee with Shoot to kill.Seemed to damper the rioters enthusiasm .

You and others can and probably will remain as bitter as you are,just as some white people will remain that way. That kind of blind hatred will be with us till the end. Most black or white people are not that caught up in skin color. Those that are get the most attention.

The really great thing is I am not accountable to you,when all is said and done I am accountable to only ONE in how I treat my neighbors,white,black,hispanic. Disagreeing with the slogan BLM when it is obvious only one very small portion of black lives are important is not something I believe is racist in any way. 

You might want to check on the impressive donor list of BLM,not to shabby.  AS for  a lack of money,it does not always take a large sum. What it takes is willing hands. When they can easily appear any place racism can be shouted,they can appear to help at least their own in a disaster.

 

 

 

[D_Bishop]

The only group I attend, that I contribute money to, that I truly believe in is the seventh day adventist church.  That's it.  I like some of the things groups like BLM espouse, Naacp, etc., but not enough to join.  The fact that people like you rail against them night and day is evidence in my mind they are doing something right.   I think their basic premise is flawed; the same goes for all those groups and people lined up on the right.  I don't think this world is going to be here all that long.  Jesus is going to come back.  So why get bogged down with finite, stupid stuff?  

To me one of the most inspiring aspects of the truth, as I understand it, as presented by this church is the judgement.  The fact that God knows all, sees all, reads thoughts, motives, etc regardless of class and skin color.  The thugs in the streets, the self righteous right looking but nefarious thinking thugs in the suburbs they will all be judged, including me.  Whatever or whoever is worth saving will be saved.  The rest will be burned up.  I have faith that God is powerful enough to get it right.  I hope I am on the right side of the ledge when all is said and done.    Meanwhile chaos and stupidity reigns supreme, in any direction you want to point in.  It shouldn't come as a surprise, cause prophecy covers all this.  If you are surprised and concerned about the state of life in this country and this world then you really haven't been paying attention.

[bonnie]

The only group I attend, that I contribute money to, that I truly believe in is the seventh day adventist church.  That's it.  I like some of the things groups like BLM espouse, Naacp, etc., but not enough to join.  The fact that people like you rail against them night and day is evidence in my mind they are doing something right.   I think their basic premise is flawed; the same goes for all those groups and people lined up on the right.  I don't think this world is going to be here all that long.  Jesus is going to come back.  So why get bogged down with finite, stupid stuff?  

This is kind of sad. Yes,even the devil does a few things right for his own evil benefit.  Many of the black community do a lot of things right,but is usually overshadowed by those that behave in the manner of BLM. Same is as true for many white people or whatever skin color you can name. On any given day I may be able to help only one person or work with others to help one.

 I have yet to hear they consider it finite  stupid. They need to survive on a daily basis till Jesus comes.

To me one of the most inspiring aspects of the truth, as I understand it, as presented by this church is the judgement.  The fact that God knows all, sees all, reads thoughts, motives, etc regardless of class and skin color.  The thugs in the streets, the self righteous right looking but nefarious thinking thugs in the suburbs they will all be judged, including me.  Whatever or whoever is worth saving will be saved.  The rest will be burned up.  I have faith that God is powerful enough to get it right.  I hope I am on the right side of the ledge when all is said and done.    Meanwhile chaos and stupidity reigns supreme, in any direction you want to point in.  It shouldn't come as a surprise, cause prophecy covers all this.  If you are surprised and concerned about the state of life in this country and this world then you really haven't been paying attention.

I believe God will get it right. .......

Meanwhile chaos and stupidity reigns supreme, in any direction you want to point in.  It shouldn't come as a surprise, cause prophecy covers all this.  If you are surprised and concerned about the state of life in this country and this world then you really haven't been paying attention.

 

Concerned as in trying to fix it,Nope. Concerned knowing that some can be helped while surviving the chaos and stupidity,Yes.

The day we lost everything we owned in the blink of an eye,I will always be eternally grateful for those that did not say,"Why be concerned,Jesus is coming soon" and made a desperate time bearable and livable while waiting for that day.

I said nothing about be surprised about the state of this country,Yes,when and where I can help I am concerned. Sorry you feel differently

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[D_Bishop]

Any type of communication with you is a total waste of time.

[bonnie]

2 hours ago, D_Bishop said:

Any type of communication with you is a total waste of time.

Some people feel that way when others do not agree with them or see things their way.

[Tom Wetmore]

4 hours ago, bonnie said:

Some people feel that way when others do not agree with them or see things their way.

Administrative Note - Please pay attention.

Maybe.  But that would be only a few, I think.  But this response by you is actually an example of the point to which you were apparently trying to respond.  The point is that when we communicate, hopefully  it is a two way conversation where you can tell by responses that  people seem to be listening and  showing at least some understanding or at least basic comprehension of what you are saying. When it becomes apparent that that is not the case and people are just talking past one another and carrying on parallel monologues ( or rants as is so often the case right here) with little real connection to what others are saying, it is simply a waste of time.  It is shouting into the wind, talking to the wall.  

it is more the manner and tone ( or often tone deafness) of your response and the clear evidence so often from your response that you simply seem to not understand what it is you are responding to or sometimes really understand the substance or offensiveness of stuff you post and/or cut and paste into some of your posts.  

While this is reacting to just one post here, all of the rest of you please understand and think about it too.  It is not just one person here who should take note. We all could benefit from improved attention to how we communicate.

 

[D_Bishop]

 

[D_Bishop]

 

[D_Bishop]

The fact that BLM is the least of my concerns.

[bonnie]

6 minutes ago, D_Bishop said:

The fact that BLM is the least of my concerns.

And what is it you would like to see to undo the terrible things of the past? No one has ever denied or tried to justify the evil  actions you have posted. It can't be undone no matter how many times it is rehashed. Using events like that to excuse violent behavior by some now doesnt help either. Blaming all that disagree with your viewpoint dosent make them racist or likely to commit those same acts.