Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted May 16, 2017 Moderators Share Posted May 16, 2017 As stated in a previous post, Guam alleges that the SDA Church owes some $12,600,000 in back taxes for the operation of its ABC and for its medical care. In order to defeat this, the SDA denomination has filed two (2) lawsuits challenging this. One is scheduled to go to trail on January 31, 2018 and the second is scheduled to go to trail on February 20, 2018. For more on this see: https://atoday.org/date-set-for-12-million-adventist-tax-lawsuit/ Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 28, 2017 Author Moderators Share Posted October 28, 2017 The following website contains the basic information that is needed to search for more information about this case. It should be noted that it does not contain updated information. It simply contains the information that is needed to discover what is going on. That information will contained in Pacer. https://dockets.justia.com/docket/guam/gudce/1:2017cv00009/12529 Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 28, 2017 Author Moderators Share Posted October 28, 2017 In short, this is the current future schedule: * One pre-trial conference has already taken place. * Three more pre-trial conferences are scheduled to take place. * A 2-day trail is scheduled for February 13, 2018 NOTE: The process of justice is long. Yet, this one has probably proceeded fairly quickly. SDA Guam # 2.pdf Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 28, 2017 Author Moderators Share Posted October 28, 2017 The following are some news items that may be of interest: https://www.postguam.com/news/local/sda-files-suit-over-m-in-unpaid-taxes/article_b4bf11a2-d619-11e6-a0b5-3b82f5aab748.html https://www.postguam.com/news/local/sda-church-clinic-restaurant-are-tax-free-activities/article_c286e184-e79e-11e6-97c4-f74f0b384f76.html https://www.postguam.com/news/local/sda-to-cancel-takecare/article_43248b18-2104-11e7-970d-d78b03d9d2d3.html https://www.postguam.com/news/local/trial-dates-set-for-m-sda-tax-suit/article_8a43f730-33ca-11e7-be27-a3cff9606173.html Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted October 28, 2017 Administrators Share Posted October 28, 2017 the question that comes to mind is, was there a time before the start date on these tax debts, that they operated without being taxed? Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 28, 2017 Author Moderators Share Posted October 28, 2017 Yes, for several years they did not file tax returns. Probably they still have not filed. Although it is possible that the SDAs have agreed on some points. E.G. Why should there be a disagreement the sale of food items? That is one of the issues. The sale of books is another issue that should be resolved easily. The largest elephant in the room is that of the clinic/hospital. It should have been organized as a non-profit organization and it was not so organized. While it can still be reorganized as a non-profit organization, at this point in time that will be a complex procedure which will require a lot of billable attorney hours. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted October 29, 2017 Administrators Share Posted October 29, 2017 if it can be established that these businesses are indeed non profit, it seems there should not be a problem, but to grasp for money is not something above the government. it is beyond understanding that there has been such a lapse of responsibility to not have these businesses properly established at non profits. is it because it is a third world country without much governmental jurisprudence? Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 29, 2017 Author Moderators Share Posted October 29, 2017 I will leave it up for discussion here as to whether or not the U.S. is a third world country. Guam is an unincorporated and organized territory of the United States in Micronesia in the western Pacific Ocean. The capital city of Guam is Hagåtña and the most populous city is Dededo. The inhabitants of Guam are called Guamanians, and they are American citizens by birth. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 29, 2017 Author Moderators Share Posted October 29, 2017 In the beginning it is not hard to establish a company/business as not-for profit. However, once that business/company has been established it can be very complex to change it to a non-profit company/business. And, it can be a complex to change it the other way from a non-profit to a for profit company/business. Such changes can involve dissolving the company/business, distribution of the assets and permission of the government and other regulatory agencies. NOTE: I once lived in a place where local hospitals underwent such a change due to changes in the health-care market. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators debbym Posted October 29, 2017 Administrators Share Posted October 29, 2017 9 hours ago, Gregory Matthews said: I will leave it up for discussion here as to whether or not the U.S. is a third world country. well, not all states, or territories, or even counties are equal in management... Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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