Sessions cites Bible to defend separating immigrant families

[phkrause]

WASHINGTON — Attorney General Jeff Sessions cited the Bible on Thursday in his defense of his border policy that is resulting in hundreds of immigrant children being separated from their parents after they enter the U.S. illegally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sessions-cites-bible-to-defend-separating-immigrant-families/2018/06/14/7b20b9fa-7014-11e8-b4d8-eaf78d4c544c_story.html?

[phkrause]

Seizing Children From Parents at the Border Is Immoral. Here’s What We Can Do About It.

It may be hard to believe that this is happening in the United States in 2018, that hundreds of children are being snatched from their parents, frequently under false pretenses, often screaming, and placed in vast warehouselike centers like the former Walmart in Brownsville, Tex., where nearly 1,500 boys now spend their days. The parents often don’t know where their children are, or when they will see them again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/opinion/children-parents-asylum-immigration.html

[phkrause]

From Chad Steward, pastor of the Spencerville, MD SDA church:

Do Not Be Silent!
On June 16, 2018 by Chad Stuart

Prior to World War II. Prior to the annihilation of 6 million Jews at the hands of the Nazi Regime. Prior to all this there was a law that stated all Jews must register with the government and wear a visible gold star of David. If these Jewish individuals did not register or did not wear their Stars of David they were subject to monetary fines and or imprisonment.

“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” –Romans 13:1

In 1938 prior to World War II. Prior to the annihilation of 6 million Jews at the hands of the Nazi Regime. Joseph Goebbels the German Propaganda Minister orders the Storm Troopers (SA) and other Nazi party formations to destroy the homes, businesses, and houses of worship of Jews while fire fighters and police are ordered to stand by and let it happen, it is known as, “The Night of Broken Glass.”

“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” –Romans 13:1

Following the Night of Broken Glass, prior to World War II. Prior to the annihilation of 6 million Jews at the hands of the Nazi Regime—The Nazi state imposes a fine of one billion Reichsmarks ($400,000,000) on the Jewish community in Germany. Jews are ordered to clean up and make repairs after the pogrom. They are barred from collecting insurance for the damages. Instead, the state confiscates payments owed by insurers to Jewish property holders. In the aftermath of the pogrom, Jews are systematically excluded from all areas of public life in Germany.

“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” –Romans 13:1

Prior to World War II. Prior to the annihilation of 6 million Jews at the hands of the Nazi Regime—Jewish children are banned from entering museums, playgrounds, and public pools. They are also expelled from their schools.

“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” –Romans 13:1

If scripture was ever used to defend such cruelty would we stand by and be silent?

The United States of America, 2018—About 2,000 children have been separated from their families at the border of Mexico over a six-week period during a crackdown on illegal entries, according to U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

“I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order,” Attorney General of The United States of America, Jeff Sessions.

“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” –Romans 13:1

One day in the future my Adventist brothers and sisters—

“There will come a time when, because of our advocacy of Bible truth, we shall be treated as traitors.” –Ellen G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 6 p.394

“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” –Romans 13:1

Do not be silent!

[GayatfootofCross]

Thank you for this thread.

Please ignore the  jokes and listen to what he says. It is important.

 

Stephen Colbert 5 minutes utube

 

 

[GayatfootofCross]

2 minutes ago, The Wanderer said:

I mentioned, yesterday in another thread that I saw Sessions do this. A complete abuse of scriptural authority and context, and an absolutely cruel, inhumane way to respond to children.

Yes we are seeing something..

And saying something.

[dgrimm60]

GAYATFOOTOFCROSS 

the youtube of Stephen Colbert made some very good points

dgrimm60

[dgrimm60]

THE WANDERER

I agree that this bible verse was misquoted

dgrimm60

[dgrimm60]

PHKRAUSE

IT does seem like this  should not be happening in the UNITED STATES ====but the

bible in REV 13 VER 11 -12 ====It says that this LAMB like Beast will speak like a Dragon  (UNITED STATES)and 

cause the people of the earth to worship the 1st Beast ( ROME==PAPAL POWER)

dgrimm60

[phkrause]

Separation at the border: children wait in cages at south Texas warehouse

Inside an old warehouse in south Texas, hundreds of children wait away from their parents in a series of cages created by metal fencing.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/17/separation-border-children-cages-south-texas-warehouse-holding-facility

[phkrause]

Laura Bush: Separating children from their parents at the border ‘breaks my heart’

On Sunday, a day we as a nation set aside to honor fathers and the bonds of family, I was among the millions of Americans who watched images of children who have been torn from their parents. In the six weeks between April 19 and May 31, the Department of Homeland Security has sent nearly 2,000 children to mass detention centers or foster care. More than 100 of these children are younger than 4 years old. The reason for these separations is a zero-tolerance policy for their parents, who are accused of illegally crossing our borders.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/laura-bush-separating-children-from-their-parents-at-the-border-breaks-my-heart/2018/06/17/f2df517a-7287-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?

[debbym]

the end does not justify the means. 

this is a serious negative development in our country.  what disturbs me the most is that even with the masses and leaders against it, it is not being stopped.

God help those families suffering this terrible abuse.

[hch]

On ‎6‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 8:53 PM, phkrause said:

One day in the future my Adventist brothers and sisters—

“There will come a time when, because of our advocacy of Bible truth, we shall be treated as traitors.” –Ellen G. White, Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 6 p.394

“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” –Romans 13:1

Do not be silent!

The future? The future is upon our doorsteps.

In some degree we have already arrived. 

Quote

Ps 70:4  Let all those that seek thee rejoice and be glad in thee: and let such as love thy salvation say continually, Let God be magnified.

 

 

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Y'all need to do some research on this. Everyone acting like this was all Trump's do'ins. Just more Trump Derangement Syndrome at work. Oh, that 'immigrant family' thing, was going on under Obama and no one really cared. Everything Trump is doing was initiated by, approved by, and enforced by Democrats before Trump even arrived. Trump is enforcing law as it is his job to do, not making it up as he goes as the previous regime did. And all hell will break out if he did! And where were these "milking it for what it's worth" pastors then?

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/obama-detained-immigrants-deplorable-conditions/

[bonnie]

What actions should be taken? Anyone that shows up with a child gets a get in free card? 

Why not do away with immigration laws and have open borders? That way no laws would be broken.  Children are separated from parents every day when they break the law. Where is all the gnashing of the teeth over american children traumatized

[bonnie]

At one time both Clinton and Obama seemed to have a grasp of the importance of immigration laws and the need to obey them

 

[GayatfootofCross]

Oh look!

 

https://spectrummagazine.org/article/2018/06/19/suffer-children

 

[GayatfootofCross]

“We are not to simply bandage the wounds of victims beneath the wheels of injustice, we are to drive a spoke into the wheel itself.”
Dietrich Bonhoeffer

This applies on so many levels. ^

This man was God with skin on it for so many.

[GayatfootofCross]

42 minutes ago, The Wanderer said:

thats exactly what Trump says

I'm glad you can keep track.

[GayatfootofCross]

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2018/06/19/if-your-church-is-silent-this-week-you-should-leave-it/

The people around me usually err on the side of the Law.

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“In March of 1993, The United States Supreme Court issued a ruling in Reno v Flores. (Yes, “That” Reno. Janet Reno, Bill Clinton’s first Attorney General who ordered that young Elian Gonzalez be torn from his family’s arms while hiding in a Miami closet. You might remember the iconic photograph.)

The Court in Flores decided that minors could not be incarcerated with the adults accompanying them across the United States border illegally. The decision was the result of a long dispute in how to best care for these children while the adults were detained for criminal proceedings.

You see, when aliens cross the border illegally, they are incarcerated until their criminal case is decided. The understandable argument at the time was “why should children be incarcerated while their parents are in jail?” It seemed a fundamental violation of international human rights. Makes sense, right?

As a result, The Flores case drew a line in the sand. Children could not be incarcerated with their parents or accompanying adult while being held for illegal immigration violations. And a subsequent 1997 agreement stipulated that children must be placed in a safer environment where they could enjoy certain privileges, including education, a clean, safe environment and other normal life cycle amenities that incarcerated individuals do not enjoy.

It was considered a “victory” for human rights. By separating adult and child, we protected the children, reducing any harm done to them for their parent’s or accompanying adult’s decisions.

A lot has happened since then. However; bottom line, these juvenile, shelters have been operating in accordance with the law, and overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services to protect those children from the hazards of parental incarceration since 1997.

So, since Donald Trump was running his real estate empire, selling wine and casinos in 1993, we are left to determine just how he managed to orchestrate this cruel “separation of immigrant parent and child” 25 years BEFORE he was President of the United States. The obvious answer is, he didn’t. He had nothing to do with establishing this United States immigration policy. Today, he simply enforces it.

This one story illustrates how important it is for us to do our research regarding today’s headlines. The Corporate Media either refuses to do the research, is incapable of doing the research or has done the research and decided to lie to you about its findings. Either way, this would make the Corporate Media lazy, incompetent or just plain deceptive. Liars, if you will.”

http://wgntv.com/2018/06/18/the-truth-behind-this-photo-of-an-immigrant-child-crying-inside-a-cage/

 

[GayatfootofCross]

Trump and Sessions could stop this if they wanted to.

[hch]

2 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

If this is all it takes to dupe you, you are in trouble The "real pictures" you referred us to above do not even look like same kids, same place. Obviously staged. "Research" does not involve doing a ten minute internet search and posing some scurrilous links you find.

Be patient. America is going to repudiate every principle upon which it was founded until it reaches the point of no return. 

[CoAspen]

Truth! You don't want the Truth!

[hch]

3 minutes ago, The Wanderer said:

So are a lot of others...in fact people do that every day but I am not going to sit around and ""wait"  for it. I am waiting for Jesus.

It is good for people to work for the LORD before the night comes when work will be so difficult.

But when America repudiates its Constitution, it won't be immigrant  children that will be the focus,

it will be Christians that hold conscience dear and put service to God above obedience to man.

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15 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

"Research" does not involve doing a ten minute internet search and posing some scurrilous links you find.

This one took me less than 10 min!

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/10161158600050725/

Do read beyond just getting upset about the picture and note what the courts have said about keeping children in custody with their parents. And if being separated from your children is so wrong, why are the children of American citizens who are thrown into jail separated from their parents!