Stan Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Polygamous sect leader on FBI's most wanted list Associated Press Published: Sunday, May 07, 2006 PHOENIX -- The fugitive leader of a polygamous sect wanted on charges in Arizona and Utah was put on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list. Warren Jeffs has not been seen publicly in nearly two years and is wanted on criminal charges of sexual conduct with a minor. He is accused of arranging marriages between underage girls and older men. Federal authorities also have added a charge of unlawful flight. Authorities on Saturday raised the reward amount from $50,000 US to $100,000. The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is based in Colorado City, Arizona, and Hildale, Utah. Polygamy is practiced openly in Colorado City, a remote enclave in Arizona on the state line with Utah. The sect split from mainstream Mormonism after the broader church renounced polygamy more than a century ago. © Associated Press 2006 Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted May 8, 2006 Author Share Posted May 8, 2006 DO religious Liberty leaders provide protection for the above? I would never want to have more than one wife.. or MIL. I find it ironic that a man may have multiply sex partners while single, but if he makes a public commitment to those who are above the age of consent, then we must "stone him'. From what I understand, "a woman can not go to heaven unless they are married to a Morman man" correct me if that is wrong. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted May 8, 2006 Administrators Share Posted May 8, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> From what I understand, "a woman can not go to heaven unless they are married to a Morman man" correct me if that is wrong. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I have heard that as well Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I think that the polygamists actually have a much better case than homosexuals do for legal marriage. Yet the Supreme Court has ruled against it in the past. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted May 8, 2006 Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2006 Re: "Warren Jeffs has not been seen publicly in nearly two years and is wanted on criminal charges of sexual conduct with a minor. He is accused of arranging marriages between underage girls and older men. Federal authorities also have added a charge of unlawful flight." The above are not religious liberty issues. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfstep Denise Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Chaplain Matthews: Are you saying that the boss (Stan) posted in the wrong forum? If so, that's pure courage!! Hee Hee! Halfstep Denise Quote "If you're all God has, is God in trouble? -- Dr. Frederick K.C. Price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> From what I understand, "a woman can not go to heaven unless they are married to a Morman man" correct me if that is wrong. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Yeah but that's the mormon heaven. Im not sure where that is located but hopefully it wont be close to the heaven I hope to attend. ROFL Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> The above are not religious liberty issues. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I don't know Gregory. From what I've read about Jeffs and his city/compound, I would think it a religous liberty issue to get any young adult out of there if they should want to leave. I saw a news program about all the young boys who are taken out of the compound at a certain age and just left in the desert to find their own way. And they wont let the young women leave at all. But I guess they wouldnt help anyone in a cult. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 In their religion, they believe minor girls should be able to marry older men. If the minor girls have parental conscent, it would be legal in many states. While we may not agree with this mormon cult, from their presepective, it certainly is a religious liberty issue. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> In their religion, they believe minor girls should be able to marry older men. If the minor girls have parental conscent, it would be legal in many states. While we may not agree with this mormon cult, from their presepective, it certainly is a religious liberty issue. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Shane, I agree....This has implications for all believers. If Abraham were living now, he would be on the FBI's most wanted. Something to think about. Just like these sex-offenders. If an 18-year man has consensual sex with a 16-year-old girl he would be classified as pedophile. Anyway, I can remember stories when 12 and 13 year old girls were marrying 20 to 30 year old men. It was common 50 to 100 years ago. Now it's immoral. Well, let me tell you what's immoral: A guy "dotting the hills" with his seed. Yeah, as long as he isn't married to more than one woman he can have all the sex he wants with as many women as he can get. He can have as many illegitimate children as he can produce. But that's okay - that's not illegal. We live in the land of hypocrisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted May 15, 2006 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2006 Re: "Just like these sex-offenders. If an 18-year man has consensual sex with a 16-year-old girl he would be classified as pedophile." I am not aware of that beging true in any State of the United States. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted May 15, 2006 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2006 Re: " Yeah, as long as he isn't married to more than one woman he can have all the sex he wants with as many women as he can get. He can have as many illegitimate children as he can produce. But that's okay - that's not illegal." It is illegal when it involved people below the age of consent. People are being prosecuted for such. Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted May 15, 2006 Author Share Posted May 15, 2006 It is hard to make a post on this defending their right to differing religious belief without sounds like one supports the atrocity of abuse of the Children. BIBLICAL times saw a lot of girls married around 12 or so. Rachel's old maid sister Leah was something like 17 years old. Mary, the mother of Jesus, is estimated to be 12-13 when she was 'with child' .... Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> If an 18-year man has consensual sex with a 16-year-old girl he would be classified as pedophile. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I understand the point being made here and it is a good one. This is legislating morality no matter how it is looked at. I don't have a problem with that BUT some people claim that morality cannot be legislated and this is obviously a clear example showing that it can be. Statutory Rape </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> In Minnesota, for example, criminal sexual conduct in the first degree is defined as sexual contact with a person under thirteen years of age by a person who is more than thirty-six months older than the victim. The offense also is committed if the complainant is between thirteen and sixteen years old and the actor is more than forty-eight months older than the complainant (Minn. Stat. Ann. § 609.342 [West 1996]). <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> an adult engaging in sexual intercourse in a particular jurisdiction with an individual under the age of 12 may be charged with a full statutory rape charge (a charge fully equivalent in punishment and severity to rape) whereas intercourse with an individual between the ages of 13–16 may be a significantly lesser charge (such as "unlawful sexual conduct with a minor" or "criminal sexual conduct with a minor". Depending on the jurisdiction, the age difference between the participants, and other factors <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Laws vary widely in their definitions of statutory rape; some states make exceptions when the older person is also young or of a similar age, or if he or she marries the minor before the act of sexual intercourse or before being charged with the offense. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Actually in Florida we have several cases where 18-20 year olds have been REGISTERED as Sex Offenders (pedophiles) for having sex with under 18 (15-17) year old girls. It IS the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodema Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I've read articles about this Warren Jeffs and the plethora of "lost boys" exiled from his so-called "community". "Heinous" is too generous a word for this dictatorial, self-important filth. <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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