Who's fooling who?

[BlessedMan]

Big Media shouldnt get away with talking about it the way they do. It is obviously propaganda happening here. I find it hard to believe this is a literally "new" disease.

[BlessedMan]

On 2/17/2020 at 9:05 AM, hch said:

What is clear is that so much tradition is taught a BIBLE that when the real deal is dusted off and laid plain for all to see, the brightness of its glory blinds the mortal eyes that are not accustomed to such amazing sights.

The cross of Christ lies directly in our pathway, and must be lifted if we would follow Jesus. It is a perpetual reminder of Christ, our intercessor before God, and it points us to a nobler world. Through Christ we have constant communication with the Father. Through this open door we may view the glories of the celestial world, and may estimate the superiority of heavenly attractions as compared with earthly. Then with a heart all aglow with the love of Jesus, we may reveal to others what we have seen and learned. 

{RH, January 6, 1891 par. 9} 

[stinsonmarri]

On 2/15/2020 at 3:22 AM, hch said:

I gave the date of the end of the Judgment of the living as 14 February 2013
and I noted the parallel between Noah's 7 days and our 7 years that end 14 February 2020
I wondered if 14 February 2020 would bring any events of significance
Are the twin bomb cyclones merging into one of the strongest storms ever (14 Feb 2020)
In the North Atlantic (heading toward the Old World)
any indication of prophecy fulfilled (as it was in the days of Noah so will it be before the coming of Jesus) or a sign that we need to note?

As Noah waited in the ark for 7 days for the rain to come,

You must admit that it is interesting that on the very day that ended our 7 years: We have a super storm

You truly need to stop, it totally unholy just like your Pence predition. I do know why you keep making these preditions. 

[stinsonmarri]

On 2/17/2020 at 7:16 AM, phkrause said:

Not sure I understand your asking about "globalization?" Globalization has been with us for a number of years now and is not going to go away!! And just because some don't want to believe in some of the things that are happening all around us doesn't mean are are not true!! Everything that happens some will go over board with and others will take lightly, there seems to be no middle ground. Each entity has an agenda!! Like the Pope latching on to "global warming" and other things to bring about his "Sunday Laws," etc.!! I for one don't let that bather me, if it happens it happens!! Christ tells us to keep our eyes on him, we know that this world is coming to its final days and all craziness will be braking out everywhere. God's angels are still holding that back, but each day or so it seems like it will be anytime, if we are not prepared shame on us!! Anyway talking about the virus, wasn't just a few weeks ago where they said no problem this is not going to go anywhere?? Well obviously it has, and its spread pretty far and wide?? They probably will control this eventually like pretty much all the others that have come, but are not gone, just lurking around!!

Phkrause: I loved everything you were saying but the Sunday law. I read the piece what Francis wrote. But if we pay close attention to what he said it was mainly on the Catholic false supper that they call the eucharist. Did he mention the Jewish concept of the Sabbath. Yes, he did also the Protestants view. The Hebrew word"shabath'," in Gen 2:2 and "nuach," in Ex 20:11 do not mean rest. The English again uses the word rest for  twice for a noun meaning and twice for a verb meaning. The Hebrew words are verbs and they actually mean to cease but, various meanings are applied to take away from the true meaning of the Sabbath. Shabbath is a noun and not shabath the verb in Hebrew! If you want to really know what that these words do not mean rest look at what YAHSHUA did on the Sabbath. You would fiind HIM in the Temple or healing the sick somewhere on the Sabbath, never resting. Normal work cease or stop and worship or celebrating HIS FATHER on the Sabbath.

Francis view of the Israel who did not keep the Sabbath correctly even in YAHSHUA'S day! He clearly stated a day of relaxation, and having fun. You first must take the ucharist and then have relaxation and fun. I would ask you to go back and read it.

Listen, I will say this so please understand. The 144,000 will be sealed before the Time of Trouble begin. The Bible says very clearly that the remnant will keep all of THE MOST HIGH Commandment and have the Testimony of YAHSHUA. (That mean they will have THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY OF YAHSHUA)! Why, to finish the work! There is no Sunday Blue Law edit! If you are already sealed when MICHAEL Stand Up and the Time of Trouble begins here is what the Bible says:

 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. Dan 12:3

These are the Wise Virgins that YAHSHUA spoke of who had their lamps trim and ready! You know the oil in the lamps was THE HOLY SPIRIT or THE LATTER RAIN (THE HOLY SPIRIT that with Elijah). To do what? The cry was:

 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, THE BRIDEGROOM cometh; go ye out to meet HIM. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. Mat 25:6, 7

They had THE HOLY SPIRIT to finish the work and while the foolish (many of SDA trying to get the oil and was to late), THE BRIDEGROOM came and the five Wise had gather the harvest know as the great multitude of souls and these two group was ready to meet YAHSHUA'S coming after midnight! The Seven Trumpets of THE WRATH of THE LAMB will be on the wicked. Read Rev Chapter 7-9! We need stop believing the myth and get the oil before it is to late!

Blessings!

[stinsonmarri]

On 2/17/2020 at 10:58 AM, hch said:

Sister Marri so far so good

The ten horns were future to John's Day. But are they always future? Does not a point in time arrive when they exist?

You put in the future what I have shown is in our recent past. You are waiting for something to come that has already been.

Your study was well done.

HCH: Thank you kindly for the complement. However, you should read Rev 1:1:

The Revelation of YASHSHA THE MESSIAH, which ELOHIYM gave unto HIM, to show unto HIS servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by HIS angel unto HIS servant John: 

What you fail to see also in Dan 12:1 that when MICHALE STAND, HIS people will be delivered whose names are written in the Book of Life. That mean judgement is over! Those during the Time of Trouble, the Great Multitude are also sealed and Rev Chapter 7 states those before and during the Time of Trouble will be sealed. It will be a certain time and the elder clearly states that the fourth Trumpet will have blown. That is when meteors will hit the sun, moon and stars. The sun will move from where it is now and the heat will be unbearable. Here is what the elder said to John:

And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in THE BLOOD of THE LAMB. Therefore are they before the Throne of ELOHIYM, and serve HIM day and night in HIS Temple: and HE that Sitteth on the Throne shall dwell among them.  They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. Rev 7:13-16 

The Bible give you the Judgment that Edison saw in Rev Chapter 4-7; All of the riders on the horse were flesh beings. The horses was the earth from it perfection until it started decaying the grey horse. Only the Adams were riding the White horse but Cain, Nimrod and the papcy was riding the last three. But those whose name remain in the book during each period were those who were saved. Others were blotted out throughout earth history! Just read the Bible prayerfully and it explains itself! YAHSHUA will come back on the White Horse, HE die as the second ADAM, HE returns with Many Crowns as THE ONLY KINGS OF KINGS!

I read what it says line up line, here a little there a little and only YAHWEH will reveal HIS MYSTERY to those who dealing seek HIM. 

Blessings!

[BlessedMan]

13 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said:

All of the riders on the horse were flesh beings. The horses was the earth from it perfection until it started decaying the grey horse. Only the Adams were riding the White horse but Cain, Nimrod and the papcy was riding the last three.

The only kind of horses one would need to look out for when we get to all this stuff are these ones:

"If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan? " (Jer 12:5)

14 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said:

YAHSHUA will come back on the White Horse,

ah, NO!

"Shall horses run upon the rock? will one plow there with oxen? for ye have turned judgment into gall, and the fruit of righteousness into hemlock:" (Amos 6:12)

Jesus wont be on no horse; He will be on a cloud and thats why I always say "there is light in every cloud: EXPECT IT

1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[hch]

8 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

You truly need to stop, it totally unholy just like your Pence predition. I do know why you keep making these preditions.

But you should know. You have had over 20 years to look at the facts and to grow in understanding. And enough information has been presented on this thread alone to bring you up to date. If the sleepy saints do not wake soon, the clock will be run down and it will be too late to wake up.

The third angel's message is Love Jesus and do not take the Mark of the Beast.

Those who are sealed with the seal of the living God will not take the 666 mark.

A few posts earlier, it was shown that Jesus stood in 1844.

The SoP shows that Michael will stand to begin the Time of Trouble

And Michael will stand to begin the 7 last plagues.

These three times that Michael stands are separate and distinct.

Jesus has stood and He will stand once more (not twice more).

You have the information. But you lack ability to process it.

God can and will give us wisdom, if we ask Him for it.

 

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[BlessedMan]

7 hours ago, hch said:

A few posts earlier, it was shown that Jesus stood in 1844.

No; it wasnt "shown," it was simply claimed.

[hch]

1 hour ago, BlessedMan said:

No; it wasnt "shown," it was simply claimed.

You will have to debate that with the SoP

[BlessedMan]

1 hour ago, hch said:

You will have to debate that with the SoP

No. Thats not true. "Quoting" something is not the same as telling people the truth. The truth is always centered around Jesus. Trying to bruit the truth into "quotes" is called falsehoods. Your material "quotes" Bible all the time - yet is not Christian. Its nothing but incantations and predictions.

[stinsonmarri]

10 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

The only kind of horses one would need to look out for when we get to all this stuff are these ones:

"If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan? " (Jer 12:5)

ah, NO!

"Shall horses run upon the rock? will one plow there with oxen? for ye have turned judgment into gall, and the fruit of righteousness into hemlock:" (Amos 6:12)

Jesus wont be on no horse; He will be on a cloud and thats why I always say "there is light in every cloud: EXPECT IT

1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

Blessedman: I was dealing with the Judgement. The Bible deals with symbols of things just like we do. The Bible uses water, animals, oil, trees, grass, horses, numbers ect. We use letters, numbers, animals, hand signs and more. The Bible let's you know that these horses represented earth because their were only four, just like the four corners of the earth. The horses color represented specific things as well; white represented purity of the earth before sin. The red is the first time blood was shed on the earth. Black represented darkness or paganism had rapidly spread shortly after the flood. The gray represents decaying or death when something is beginning to die slowly and painfully!

During these periods of time those who were faith remain in the Book of Life, the other ones named was removed, that is it. The 4th Chapter of Rev discribes first, THE MOST HOLY PLACE, then  Chapter 5 shows THE FATHER, who is THE JUDGE Sitting on HIS Throne with the Book of Life in HIS RIGHT HAND! The scene shows THE LAMB is only worthy to take the Book and YAHSHUA, our MEDIATOR takes the Book and opens it. The Book of Life has everybody's name in it of the entire world. This true because THE FATHER Loved the entire world and sent HIS SON to die for everyone. However, there is a stipulation, love and obedience to THE FATHER'S Laws and you must have the Testimony of YAHSHUA, which is THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY! If you don't follow these specification your name will be blotted out! How simple is that! We try to make salvation so complicated. The symbols are clear and YAHWEH never changes or alter what comes from HIS LIPS!

Finally, YAHSHUA is symbolized returning on a Horse:

 And I saw Heaven opened, and behold a White Horse; and HE that sat upon him was called FAITHFUL and TRUE, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 19: And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Rev 19:11, 14

Your Scriptures you gave is the same thing. Rev 19:11-19 and Th 4:16-18 tells the complete story. YAHSHUA returns all who are asleep and those who are alive are caught up. They see the  beast and the false prophet place in the fire, the birds are call to eat the flesh of the armies, who are killed with the brightness of HIS Coming. We all return to Heaven for a thousand years to go over the wicked records. Just and True are THE ALMIGHTY ONES WAYS!

Blessings!

 

[hch]

15 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

No. Thats not true. "Quoting" something is not the same as telling people the truth. The truth is always centered around Jesus. Trying to bruit the truth into "quotes" is called falsehoods. Your material "quotes" Bible all the time - yet is not Christian. Its nothing but incantations and predictions.

The truth in the third angels message is that those who love Jesus will not take the Mark of the Beast (666), and that they will be sealed by the Holy Spirit in the final sealing time. They will warn others of the pending danger, i.e., the coming Mark of the Beast and how to avoid it. Those who claim to love Jesus and refuse to accept what God has revealed in His word are in danger because God also warns us that His people who reject knowledge will be destroyed. 

When the 10 virgins are separated at the time of Christ's Advent, everyone will know if they truly loved Jesus or just gave Him lip service. Unfortunately, if we wait until then, it will be too late to change our destiny. Better to examine ourselves now and make the changes required than to wait until our destiny is irreversibly set. But our salvation is not left up to chance, it is a personal responsibility that rests upon us individually. Know for ourself whom we believe and warn others of their danger.

[hch]

On 2/18/2020 at 6:14 PM, BlessedMan said:

The cross of Christ lies directly in our pathway, and must be lifted if we would follow Jesus. It is a perpetual reminder of Christ, our intercessor before God, and it points us to a nobler world. Through Christ we have constant communication with the Father. Through this open door we may view the glories of the celestial world, and may estimate the superiority of heavenly attractions as compared with earthly. Then with a heart all aglow with the love of Jesus, we may reveal to others what we have seen and learned. 

{RH, January 6, 1891 par. 9} 

If you truly believe this, you should be foremost in preaching the Third Angel's Message. I do not see it in anything you post here.

[hch]

On 2/18/2020 at 10:53 PM, stinsonmarri said:

I will say this so please understand. The 144,000 will be sealed before the Time of Trouble

That is a myth.

The time of Trouble begins when Michael Pence stands for his people.

The outpouring of the Holy Spirit follows at which time the 144K are sealed.

Then Jesus finishes His work in the Sanctuary (the Investigative Judgment is ended) and it is done!

The 1290 days of Daniel 12:11 will end on 2 April 2020. More will be known by then

when the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation explain themselves by their fulfillment.

[Gregory Matthews]

HCH, you take Blessed Man to task for not centering on the cross of Christ.  Yet, you seem to center your message on Pence and the daily newspaper.

 

[hch]

5 minutes ago, Gregory Matthews said:

HCH, you take Blessed Man to task for not centering on the cross of Christ.  Yet, you seem to center your message on Pence and the daily newspaper.

 

The Third Angel's Message centers on the love of Christ.

Love that warns of life and death issues.

Love that is willing to be misconstrued and ridiculed relentlessly.   

Love that will endure when the wishy washy feel good gospel fails.

For every truth there is a counterfeit. 

Let us make sure of our calling that we stand with Jesus the Truthgiver and not with the counterfeiter 

[stinsonmarri]

37 minutes ago, hch said:

That is a myth.

The time of Trouble begins when Michael Pence stands for his people.

The outpouring of the Holy Spirit follows at which time the 144K are sealed.

Then Jesus finishes His work in the Sanctuary (the Investigative Judgment is ended) and it is done!

The 1290 days of Daniel 12:11 will end on 2 April 2020. More will be known by then

when the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation explain themselves by their fulfillment.

HCH: You are so confuse with this Pence mess! You are misquoting the Bible a lot. The Bible clearly stated not to add or subtract from YAHWEH'S Word and you have. You do not even understand that on the Day of Pentecost was the OUTPOURING of THE HOLY SPIRIT which was call the Early Rain. The 144K will sealed before the Time of Trouble because Rev 7:1-3 confirms it. But you are so blind that you cannot see and I hope that you have not gone to far. I pray and hope that THE HOLY SPIRIT have not left you. The things you are saying have become so unholy and you have become profane. If you do not stop you will push THE HOLY SPIRIT away! You are making false prediction and dates that truly makes no sense. The Bible is not your play pen to say and do whatever you like. I truly worry about you.

? I am very sad!

[hch]

1 minute ago, stinsonmarri said:

HCH: You are so confuse with this Pence mess! You are misquoting the Bible a lot. The Bible clearly stated not to add or subtract from YAHWEH'S Word and you have. You do not even understand that on the Day of Pentecost was the OUTPOURING of THE HOLY SPIRIT which was call the Early Rain. The 144K will sealed before the Time of Trouble because Rev 7:1-3 confirms it. But you are so blind that you cannot see and I hope that you have not gone to far. I pray and hope that THE HOLY SPIRIT have not left you. The things you are saying have become so unholy and you have become profane. If you do not stop you will push THE HOLY SPIRIT away! You are making false prediction and dates that truly makes no sense. The Bible is not your play pen to say and do whatever you like. I truly worry about you.

? I am very sad!

Sister Marri,

You should be sad. I tell you what I know because I have studied it. Do you expect me to be a prophet or the all knowing God? Well  you are sadly mistaken. I am a Bible student and I also study the Spirit of Prophecy.

Jesus stood in 1844 to begin the Investigative Judgment.

Daniel 12:1 says Michael will stand again. This is after 1844.

The SOP says Michael stands to BEGIN the Time of Trouble.

The SOP says that Michael stands to BEGIN the 7 Last Plagues.

Jesus does not stand 2 more times. He stands the last time to begin the 7 plagues.

Thus, as Daniel 10 reveals Michael (Jesus) is one of the great princes.

The other is Michael Pence, who should be standing when the 1290 days of Daniel 12:11 end 2 April 2020

[stinsonmarri]

1 minute ago, hch said:

Sister Marri,

You should be sad. I tell you what I know because I have studied it. Do you expect me to be a prophet or the all knowing God? Well  you are sadly mistaken. I am a Bible student and I also study the Spirit of Prophecy.

Jesus stood in 1844 to begin the Investigative Judgment.

Daniel 12:1 says Michael will stand again. This is after 1844.

The SOP says Michael stands to BEGIN the Time of Trouble.

The SOP says that Michael stands to BEGIN the 7 Last Plagues.

Jesus does not stand 2 more times. He stands the last time to begin the 7 plagues.

Thus, as Daniel 10 reveals Michael (Jesus) is one of the great princes.

The other is Michael Pence, who should be standing when the 1290 days of Daniel 12:11 end 2 April 2020

What's so sad Henry you have become sick and act like a madman. You think you are above THE MOST HIGH and that he has chosen you and the sad part you were so intelligent in the past. Pride comes before a fall Henry and you are headed that way! Repent before it is too late. Study the Word according to THE HOLY SPIRIT who will lead you into the correct truth and not confusion. That is all I can say! Stop with these crazy predictions and dates you will see that they will not happen. When they don't what will you do then or will it be to late?

Profoundly disgusted!?

 

[BlessedMan]

1 hour ago, stinsonmarri said:

What's so sad Henry you have become sick and act like a madman. You think you are above THE MOST HIGH and that he has chosen you and the sad part you were so intelligent in the past. Pride comes before a fall Henry and you are headed that way! Repent before it is too late. Study the Word according to THE HOLY SPIRIT who will lead you into the correct truth and not confusion. That is all I can say! Stop with these crazy predictions and dates you will see that they will not happen. When they don't what will you do then or will it be to late?

Profoundly disgusted!?

 

He will have to come up with a new storyline...thats whats sad.

[BlessedMan]

On 2/17/2020 at 8:49 AM, hch said:

You may have noticed that many SDA's are shouting the first and second angels' messages, but they refuse to consider that Michael Pence is going to have anything to do with implementing the Mark of the Beast that is linked to the third angel's message. You may also know that those who love Jesus will be sealed with the seal of God while those who profess to love Him and are unwilling to follow Him by faith will take the Mark of the Beast. After the last great testing message has shaken the church to its foundation, it will be known who has stood for Jesus and who has not. Until then the wheat and tares will grow together and the spirit of discernment will be in the eye of the beholder.

None of this stuff matters. THE reason MOB is only mentioned 7 times in scripture is because this is never to be our emphasis:

The Central Truth in a Simple Theology.--In every school established the most simple theory of theology should be taught. In this theory, the atonement of Christ should be the great substance, the central truth. The wonderful theme of redemption should be presented to the students.--Manuscript 156, 1898. {Ev 223.2} 

 There is one great central truth to be kept ever before the mind in the searching of the Scriptures--Christ and Him crucified. Every other truth is invested with influence and power corresponding to its relation to this theme. . . . The soul palsied by sin can be endowed with life only through the work wrought out upon the cross by the Author of our salvation.  {FLB 50.2} 

[stinsonmarri]

3 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

He will have to come up with a new storyline...thats whats sad.

He just don't see it and that's whats make me so sad. BlessedMan I have know Henry Childs for over 15 years. In the past he never talk like this. I don't know what has happen to him? He was one of the most intelligent individual I knew. He is not the same person and it is so hard to see him put out this garbbage and using EGW along with the Bible. Why on earth would you say Pence is MICHAEL? He is giving all these weird dates and the things he come up with is so farfetchedit is unbelievable and he is my friend.

Bewildered?

[BlessedMan]

we can find assurance for all in the following:

Quote

Every weak, doubting, struggling soul who yields fully to the Lord is placed in direct touch with agencies that enable him to overcome. Heaven is near to him, and he has the support and help of angels of mercy in every time of trial and need.  {AA 299.1} 

 

[BlessedMan]

3 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

None of this stuff matters. THE reason MOB is only mentioned 7 times in scripture is because this is never to be our emphasis:

The Central Truth in a Simple Theology.--In every school established the most simple theory of theology should be taught. In this theory, the atonement of Christ should be the great substance, the central truth. The wonderful theme of redemption should be presented to the students.--Manuscript 156, 1898. {Ev 223.2} 

 There is one great central truth to be kept ever before the mind in the searching of the Scriptures--Christ and Him crucified. Every other truth is invested with influence and power corresponding to its relation to this theme. . . . The soul palsied by sin can be endowed with life only through the work wrought out upon the cross by the Author of our salvation.  {FLB 50.2} 

when I think about it; IF we were to redevelop our evangelism so that every doctrine was "corresponding in relation to this theme," there would be thousands where there are now only 1s and 2s. I am not saying redevelop the doctrines. I am saying start to do something better with them.