Are you worried that the US may send cluster munitions to Ukraine?

[bonnie1962]

Not too long ago, the use of cluster munitions was called a “war crime” by then-spokeswoman for the Biden clique Jen Psaki:

 

 

 

July 10, 2023

Are you worried that the US may send cluster munitions to Ukraine?

By Thomas Lifson

 

 

 

At this very odd moment in US history, with a cognitively impaired president controlled by a shadowy group of unelected and unaccountable advisors, an important line in the sand may be crossed. The United State is openly discussing sending cluster munitions (aka, cluster bombs”) to Ukraine for use there in its war against Russia. These weapons, which contain multiple bombs that separate and scatter, are a grave danger to civilians since the munitions are designed to scatter over a wide area and may remain unexploded and pose a danger over time to innocent non-combatants.

For this reason, 123 nations are committed to the goals of the Convention on Cluster Munitions that prohibits all use, transfer, production, and stockpiling of these weapons. Notably, the United States (which employed cluster munitions in Vietnam and Iraq), along with Russia, China, Brazil, Pakistan, and Israel, have not signed on.

US "Honest John" missile warhead with M134 bomblets containing sarin gas, at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal, circa 1960. Public Domain photo

Recall that Joe Biden was installed in the presidency on the promise to return some sort of pre-Trump “normality,” that would “restore confidence” among our allies in our leadership. But now, after decades of refraining feroem these widely-banned weapons, the US is openly considering supplying them to Ukraine out of desperation, because we have so depleted out stockpiles of munitions that the cupboard is bare.

Not too long ago, the use of cluster munitions was called a “war crime” by then-spokeswoman for the Biden clique Jen Psaki:

[phkrause]

Cluster Bomb Fight in the House

A bipartisan amendment to ban the Biden administration from sending cluster munitions to Ukraine was undermined by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

https://theintercept.com/2023/07/15/deconstructed-cluster-bombs-ndaa-republicans/?

[phkrause]

The Indiscriminate Rain of Cluster Bombs

The U.S. sent cluster munitions to Ukraine, and Vladimir Putin warns “the right to take reciprocal action.”

https://theintercept.com/2023/07/19/intercepted-podcast-cluster-munitions-ukraine/?

[phkrause]

On 7/10/2023 at 8:52 AM, bonnie1962 said:

Are you worried that the US may send cluster munitions to Ukraine?

Yes I am, but I was also worried that Russia has been using these since the beginning, and yet not till now people are talking about this issue!!

[bonnie1962]

On 7/25/2023 at 2:58 PM, phkrause said:

Yes I am, but I was also worried that Russia has been using these since the beginning, and yet not till now people are talking about this issue!!

So as long as Russia does it ,the US should follow their lead. Disregarding the 123 countries that have banned cluster bombs.Remember when Jen Psaki referred to use of cluster bombs  as war crimes

[phkrause]

6 hours ago, bonnie1962 said:

So as long as Russia does it ,the US should follow their lead. Disregarding the 123 countries that have banned cluster bombs.Remember when Jen Psaki referred to use of cluster bombs  as war crimes

Obviously I didn't say that, did I????? What I'm saying is there was no problem until the US decides to send those cluster bombs to Ukraine and than it becomes a problem for certain people, or should I say cry about!!

[bonnie1962]

1 hour ago, phkrause said:

Obviously I didn't say that, did I????? What I'm saying is there was no problem until the US decides to send those cluster bombs to Ukraine and than it becomes a problem for certain people, or should I say cry about!!

It actually sounded quite a bit like that. It sounds like no one said anything when Russia used them so the silence must mean it is alright for the US

[phkrause]

Republican Disarray Delays House Vote to Ban Cluster Bomb Transfers

As Biden sends the internationally banned weapons to Ukraine, a bipartisan group of lawmakers wants to block their transfer to any country.

https://theintercept.com/2023/09/14/ukraine-cluster-bombs-us-transfer/?