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Trump recommits to a Sept. 10 debate and lashes out at Harris at news conference

PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Donald Trump recommitted to debating Vice President Kamala Harris after recently backing out, holding a lengthy news conference Thursday in which he taunted his new rival, boasted of his crowd on Jan. 6, 2021, and lashed out at questions about the enthusiasm her campaign has been generating.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-harris-news-conference-florida-election-2024-94b590ddf0434d9ea7b1241396dbbcc6?

Trump backs down after bailing on debating Harris

Former President Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris have both agreed to the Sept. 10 presidential debate on ABC, the network said Thursday.

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/08/trump-presidential-debate-dates-harris?

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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said he has agreed to participate in a vice presidential debate on CBS News on October 1. CBS News posted to social media Wednesday its invitation to Walz and Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance, offering the candidates two dates in September and two dates in October as options for a debate in New York City. Vance said he is ready to debate his Democratic opponent, but didn't commit to a date, saying he wants to go over the rules first. Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump have agreed to meet for a presidential debate on ABC News on September 10. It will be the second presidential debate of the year, following Trump's face-off with President Joe Biden on CNN in late June.

 

JD Vance agrees to debate Tim Walz on Oct. 1

Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) said Thursday that he accepted an invitation from CBS News for a vice presidential debate on Oct. 1.

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/15/jd-vance-tim-walz-debate-2024?

 

Vance and Walz agree to a vice presidential debate on Oct. 1 hosted by CBS News

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and Ohio Sen. JD Vance have agreed to debate each other on Oct. 1, setting up a matchup of potential vice presidents as early voting in some states gets underway for the general election.

https://apnews.com/article/vice-presidential-debate-walz-vance-60650c0480e132342880c35a1d29f539?

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Donald Trump threatens to pull out of 10 September presidential debate

Donald Trump has expressed doubt that he will participate in a scheduled televised debate with Kamala Harris next month, hurling a trademark “fake news” slur at the network that had agreed to host it.

https://www.newsbreak.com/the-guardian-560688/3574061934933-donald-trump-threatens-to-pull-out-of-10-september-presidential-debate?

Donald Trump lashes out against ABC News, questions whether he'll participate in Sept. 10 debate

Former President Donald Trump on Sunday cast doubt about whether he would participate in the first presidential debate against Vice President Kamala Harris.

https://www.newsbreak.com/usa-today-560565/3574017998138-donald-trump-lashes-out-against-abc-news-questions-whether-hell-participate-in-sept-10-debate?

Harris and Trump squabble over muted mics at upcoming debate

The campaigns of Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump are arguing in advance of their high-stakes Sept. 10 debate over whether microphones should be muted except for the candidate whose turn it is to speak.

https://apnews.com/article/harris-trump-debates-muted-microphones-election-83db9853877c5d00e46415ed98f46f25?

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🥊 Taunting Trump

When former President Trump suggested he might back out of the Sept. 10 debate, the Harris campaign posted sound effects of squawking, whining chickens, layered over video of Trump speaking. (Hear the clip.)

  • Another Harris tweet featured a flock of 🐔🐔🐔 emojis.

Why it matters: The same Democratic digital team in Wilmington, Del., has pivoted from the stuffier, decorous Biden for President campaign to a saucier, more ruthless Harris for President campaign.

🖼️ The big picture: Trump has always been the taunter — "Sleepy Joe," "Crooked Hillary," "Little Marco," "Low-Energy Jeb," "Meatball Ron." Now he's the taunted.

  • It's another dimension of Vice President Harris' "happy warrior" approach to a campaign that's sure to get even uglier this fall.

🔎 Between the lines: Top Trump advisers tell me they expect he'll debate — both because neither side can afford to be seen as hiding, and because Trump will relish the stage.

  • But yesterday's widespread coverage of the backstage fight over the "muted mics" issue meant Harris was continuing to control the campaign conversation as she roared out of Chicago into her first post-convention week.

The other side: When I asked the Trump campaign about Harris' mocking posts, communications director Steven Cheung replied:

"Acting like whiny schoolchildren is not a political strategy, but it is a coping mechanism for the Kamala campaign who knows they have a weak candidate incapable of being authentic. If anyone thinks that using emojis is some cutting-edge message technique, they are severely out of touch with reality and the seriousness of the challenges Americans face after a disastrous Harris-Biden administration."
 

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Former President Donald Trump is casting fresh doubt on his September 10 ABC debate against Vice President Kamala Harris. Trump's team would like for the microphones to be muted throughout the debate except for the candidate whose turn it is to speak, as was the case during the first debate with President Joe Biden. On the other hand, the Harris campaign is requesting that ABC and other networks keep microphones on. Analysts say the Harris campaign wants to give Trump the opportunity to hurl insulting interruptions that could upset or deter some of his potential voters. The ex-president on Monday undermined the position of his team, saying he'd be fine with losing the mute button.

 

Trump says agreement reached on Sept. 10 debate terms

Former President Trump said Tuesday he's reached an agreement with Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign over terms of the Sept. 10 presidential debate.

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/27/trump-agreement-presidential-debate?

 

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ABC’s rules for the Harris-Trump debate include muted mics when candidates aren’t speaking

NEW YORK (AP) — Next month’s debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump won’t have an audience, live microphones when candidates aren’t speaking, or written notes, according to rules that ABC News, the host network, shared this week with both campaigns.

https://apnews.com/article/harris-trump-debate-abc-muted-microphones-election-03dc176ac8bbb47f9c18d4e84b109e04?

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️Debate prep shakeup

For debate prep this week, Vice President Kamala Harris is not using most of the team that prepped President Biden ahead of his race-altering performance in June, Axios' Alex Thompson tells me.

  • D.C.-based lawyer Karen Dunn — who is leading Google's defense in its antitrust case that starts Monday — and longtime Harris aide Rohini Kosoglu are leading Harris' debate camp, The Washington Post reports.
  • Biden's prep was led by former White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain.

Harris is scheduled to travel to Pittsburgh on Thursday ahead of Tuesday's debate in Philadelphia.

  • Harris last debated in October 2020, when she faced former VP Mike Pence and was also aided by Dunn.

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📺 Harris, Trump settle debate rules

The rules for next Tuesday's presidential debate are set after the Harris campaign agreed to terms proposed by ABC News yesterday, Axios' Sareen Habeshian writes:

  • The microphone will only be on for the candidate whose turn it is to speak — a blow for Harris, whose campaign wanted live mics for both candidates throughout the broadcast.
  • The debate will run for 90 minutes with two commercial breaks.
  • The candidates are not allowed to bring pre-written notes to the stage.

P.S. Former Rep. Liz Cheney said yesterday that she'll vote for Vice President Harris, Axios' Erin Doherty writes.

  • "Because of the danger that Donald Trump poses, not only am I not voting for Donald Trump, but I will be voting for Kamala Harris."

 

Presidential debate

 

ABC News on Wednesday officially announced the rules of the upcoming presidential debate on September 10. Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump have agreed to the format that microphones will be muted while the other is speaking. However, the Harris campaign again laid out their objections to the muted mics condition, insisting that they believe the vice president will be "disadvantaged" by the format. In a Fox News town hall Wednesday, Trump said he was "going to let her talk" when asked about his upcoming debate with Harris. However, the former president also spread baseless allegations that he had "already heard" that Harris' team would "get the questions in advance." The rules set out by ABC News do not allow for notes and the candidates will be standing behind podiums. 

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As Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump get ready for their first — and potentially only — presidential debate, Trump over the weekend threatened prosecution and “long term prison sentences” for election officials and political operatives, who he suggested could cheat in the 2024 election, if he again wins the presidency in November. Trump’s threats of prosecution — part of his repeated baseless efforts to cast doubt on the integrity of the 2024 election — come as early voting will soon be underway in a number of states. The debate on Tuesday at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia will be the first face-to-face encounter between Harris and Trump, who are locked in a tight race.

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Trump warms up for debate by threatening to jail election officials

Donald Trump limbered up for his debate with Kamala Harris by showing the extremism that risks playing into the vice president’s claim that he’s an “unserious man” who is an “extremely serious” threat if he’s returned to the White House.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics/trump-debate-prep-analysis

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Photo illustration of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, talking, over a divided blue and red background with elements of ballots.
 

Photo illustration: Brendan Lynch/Axios. Photos: Brendan Smialowski/AFP via Getty Images and Selcuk Acar/Anadolu via Getty Images

 

For Vice President Harris, tonight's debate against former President Trump is a high-risk, high-reward moment that will test whether her re-introduction to voters can carry her to the White House, Axios' Alex Thompson writes.

  • Why it matters: Most voters already know how they feel about Trump. Fewer know how they feel about Harris.

💡 What we're hearing: The No. 1 thing Harris will try to do is to talk in the future tense — to be the candidate of change, of turning the page. She'll emphasize her values, and be very direct in saying she's the candidate who's more future-oriented. Though she's been vice president for 3½ years, she'll aim to cast herself as a candidate of change — and portray the former president as a divisive voice of the past.

  • The No. 1 thing Trump's team hopes he'll do is avoid racist or misogynistic asides, and give moderate/suburbanites who care about the economy and the border a "permission slip" to vote for him. A go-to line: "Why didn't you already do that during your four years in office? Why didn't you convince Joe Biden, or stand up to Joe Biden, to get these things done?"

🔎 Between the lines: To beat Trump on Nov. 5, Harris needs independents, anti-Trump Republicans, older white voters, and Latinos and African Americans.

  • In the debate, she'll try to show that she's not the "dangerously liberal" candidate that Trump calls her — but is the more moderate, seasoned version of herself that she's been selling in her brief campaign.

The pressure on Harris, 59, is partly of her making.

  • She's avoided unscripted moments and given few interviews during her short campaign since her abrupt ascension to the top of the Democratic ticket in July.
  • The debate (moderated by ABC News' David Muir and Linsey Davis) will be the first impression many voters get of Harris as a potential president — and she may not get a second chance before such a large audience.
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ABC News signage is installed in the media filing center one day before the presidential debate in Philadelphia. Photo: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

👓 There could be tricky stage optics. Trump says he's 6 foot 3; Harris says she's 5 foot 4.

  • In 1988, former Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis (5 foot 9) was worried about his short stature being obvious behind the podium and requested a boost, recalled Frank Fahrenkopf, co-chair of the Commission on Presidential Debates.
  • "We built something like a pitcher's mound behind Dukakis' podium for him to step on," he told Axios.

Stunning fact: Presidential candidates haven't shaken hands since the first debate between Trump and Hillary Clinton in 2016.

 

🎤 Harris vs. Trump debate

It's every Washingtonian's favorite event — debate night — as Vice President Harris and former President Trump take the stage tonight in their first match-up.

Why it matters: Since President Biden bowed out following his shaky debate performance, Harris has erased Trump's comfortable lead in the polls, setting up a razor-thin election with less than two months to go.

State of play: The face-off Tuesday in Philadelphia's National Constitution Center won't have a live audience and also won't feature live mics despite Harris' push for the feature.

Zoom in: The 90-minute debate will be moderated by "World News Tonight" anchor David Muir and ABC News Live "Prime" anchor Linsey Davis.

  • It will run at 9pm ET on ABC News with two commercial breaks and stream on ABC News Live, Disney+ and Hulu, per ABC News. Other networks, including Fox News, will also carry the debate live.
  • A coin flip that Trump won on Tuesday earned him the privilege of choosing either podium placement or closing statement order, ABC News reported.
  • The former president opted to go last, giving Harris her selection of podium positioning. Hers will be on the right side of the screen.

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Presidential debate live updates: Trump and Harris finalize preparations ahead of first meeting

Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are gearing up to take the stage for Tuesday night’s debate in Philadelphia, where they’ll fight to sway 2024 election voters on the biggest stage in U.S. politics.

https://apnews.com/live/harris-trump-debate-election-2024-updates?

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😵‍💫 Vacancy watch

The spin room in tonight's debate will double as an auditioning stage for ambitious senators looking for plum Cabinet posts.

Why it matters: For Senate leaders, it's an early look at who might be leaving them, if a president comes knocking with a better job offer.

  • Republican Sens. Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Tim Scott of South Carolina, and Rick Scott and Marco Rubio, both of Florida, will spin for the Trump campaign in Philadelphia, we have confirmed.
  • Cotton and Rubio are considered top prospects to head the Defense Department and State Department under a second Trump administration.
  • Tim Scott is in line to chair the Senate Banking Committee if Republicans take the majority. His name has also been floated as an option to head the Commerce Department.

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) will spin for the Harris camp, a campaign official told us.

  • Murphy, a foreign policy standout, also has had his name thrown around as a possible secretary of State in a Harris White House.

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CNN Fact-Checker Exposes ‘Lie After Lie’ That Trump Told At Debate

Former President Donald Trump “made at least 33 false claims” compared with “at least one false claim” from Democratic rival Kamala Harris in Tuesday’s presidential debate , according to CNN fact-checking reporter Daniel Dale .

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/3591771212366-cnn-fact-checker-exposes-lie-after-lie-that-trump-told-at-debate?

Fact-Checking Harris-Trump Presidential Debate

ABC News anchors David Muir and Linsey Davis moderated the event, which was broadcast by the network. Snopes' fact-checkers analyzed the candidates' statements for accuracy in real time below, recycling reporting from its archives.

https://www.snopes.com/live/harris-trump-debate-live-updates/?

 

🔍 ABC's fact checks

Conservatives attacked ABC News moderators David Muir and Linsey Davis for fact-checking the debate in real-time, Axios Media Trends author Sara Fischer writes.

  • Why it matters: ABC's decision to fact-check stood in contrast to CNN, which opted not to hold candidates to account for their falsehoods in real-time on stage in June.

"The moderators might as well be on the DNC payroll. This is ridiculous. This is the worst moderated debate in history," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) tweeted.

  • Moderators fact-checked Trump at least four times last night:
  1. Abortion: "There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born."
  2. Claims about Haitian immigrants: "I just want to clarify here, you bring up Springfield, Ohio. And ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community."
  3. Violent crime: "President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is coming down in this country." Go deeper with Axios' Russ Contreras.
  4. 2020 election: "We should just point out as clarification, and you know this, you and your allies, 60 cases in front of many judges. Many of them ... said there was no widespread fraud."

Keep reading ... N.Y. Times fact checks (gift link).

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Trump takes bait

Over and over again at last night's presidential debate, Kamala Harris set traps surgically designed to provoke, rattle and enrage Donald Trump.

  • Over and over, Trump stepped right into them, Axios' Zachary Basu writes.

Why it matters: With just eight weeks until the election, Harris delivered for Democrats on the biggest possible stage — the type of national stage that ended President Biden's political career less than three months ago.

  • She did so by being "exquisitely prepared," as former Trump debate coach Chris Christie described her, and by exploiting her opponent's well-documented triggers.
  • The result was a firehose of angry rants and bizarre claims by Trump — including a baseless conspiracy theory about immigrants eating pet cats and dogs — that will fuel headlines and Democratic ads for weeks.
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Initiated by Vice President Harris, this was the first handshake at a presidential debate since 2016. Photo: Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

Takeaways:

1. Trump takes the bait. About a half hour into the debate, Harris seemed to flip a switch inside Trump by inviting Americans to attend one of his rallies — where she claimed people leave early "out of exhaustion and boredom."

  • At that moment, the debate went fully off the rails: Trump vigorously defended the size of his crowds — then baselessly claimed Harris buses and pays supporters to attend her rallies. (The images of buses the right savors online are from distant parking lots or pickup points, just like your standard airport.)
  • Trump went on to defend his conduct on Jan. 6, deny he lost the 2020 election, attack Hunter Biden and accuse Harris of wanting "to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison."
  • On virtually every topic, Harris knew how to needle Trump. She used some of his favorite words he employs to criticize others — calling him a "disgrace," "weak," and saying other leaders laugh at him.
  • She also raised his felony convictions, his praise for authoritarians, Project 2025, and his 2020 election loss: "Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people," she said, twisting the knife by mentioning President Biden's vote total.

2. Truth Social comes to life. The most shocking moment of the debate came when Trump plucked a conspiracy theory about Haitian immigrants out of right-wing social media and unleashed it on national television.

  • "In Springfield [Ohio], they're eating the dogs. The people that came in. They're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the people that live there," Trump insisted, drawing a fact-check from the moderator. (Axios explainer on "eating the pets.")
  • Some Republicans blamed the coterie of online influencers close to the Trump campaign — including far-right activist Laura Loomer, who traveled to the debate with Trump — for polluting his preparation.
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Cover: New York Post. Screenshot: Drudge Report

3. The "new" Harris. In what many billed as Harris' chance to "reintroduce" herself to the country, the vice president made a clean break with the progressive policies of her failed 2019 campaign and pivoted hard to the middle.

  • Harris accused Trump of being soft on China, defended private health care, vowed not to ban fracking, called herself a gun owner and touted the endorsements of 200 Republicans, including former Vice President Dick Cheney.
  • "Clearly, I am not Joe Biden, and I am certainly not Donald Trump," Harris said, directing a response to the 28% of Americans who said in a New York Times/Siena College poll that they need to learn more about her.

The bottom line: In an election in which the majority of Americans say they want "change," Harris — the sitting vice president — was remarkably effective at painting Trump as the incumbent.

  • It wasn't until his closing statement that Trump delivered his most compelling line of attack: "Why hasn't she done it?" Trump asked about Harris' agenda.

By then, it was nearly two hours late.

 

🌀 Spin room chaos

PHILADELPHIA — Last night's post-debate spin room was a mirror image of the Biden-Trump aftermath in Atlanta just 11 weeks ago, Axios' Sophia Cai and Alex Thompson write.

  • In Atlanta, Democrats' shock at Biden's performance led only a few Biden surrogates to appear — and not for a half hour after the debate was over. They stuck together and barely took questions.
  • Yesterday, Republicans scrambled to put the best face on Trump's angry, rambling performance. There was chaos in the room when Trump himself showed up to do his own spinning and declare victory.

The feeling among Democrats at the presidential debate was unmistakable — Kamala Harris passed the test and they're thrilled they ditched Biden.

  • The debate left them feeling increasingly confident Harris can beat Trump in November and help the party win back the House by energizing voters in liberal states such as New York and California, where there are several competitive races.

🔬 Zoom in: In June, Democrats complained about the debate moderators from CNN. This time, Republicans were the ones with grievances, about ABC News' David Muir and Linsey Davis.

  • After the June debate, Democrats argued that Biden was right on the substance of his arguments, even if his performance was uneven. Last night, Republicans made a similar defense for Trump.

👀 The intrigue: Trump's surprise appearance in the spin room — a place usually reserved for a candidates' surrogates — was perhaps the most remarkable turn of the debate's aftermath and seemed to reflect Republicans' concern about how the debate played to viewers nationwide.

  • Trump attracted a throng of reporters and camera operators, some of whom stood on chairs to catch a glimpse of the ex-president.
  • "I think it was the best debate that I have had," Trump proclaimed.

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🔮 Prediction markets: Harris won
 
A line chart that displays the Polymarket betting prices for Donald Trump and Kamala Harris from 6 PM to 10:50 PM ET on Sept. 10, 2024. Trump
Data: Polymarket. Chart: Axios Visuals

The prediction markets sprang to life last night and declared Vice President Harris the winner of her debate with former President Trump, Axios' Brady Dale writes.

  • Before the debate, bettors on the blockchain-based prediction site Polymarket solidly favored Trump.

During the debate, Harris' performance moved the odds to a tie.

  • After the debate, Harris shot ahead when Taylor Swift endorsed her.

 

🥊 Harris wants Round 2
 
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Brian Fallon, an aide in Vice President Harris' inner circle, captured last night's jubilation among Democrats with the above invitation for a Round 2.

  • Why it matters: This opens the possibility of a second Harris-Trump debate to bookend the vice-presidential debate, coming up Oct. 1 (20 days from now!) on CBS in New York City.

Former President Trump, talking live to Fox News' Sean Hannity in the post-debate spin room, didn't give a direct answer about accepting the challenge.

  • "The reason you do a second debate is if you lose, and they lost," Trump said. "But I'll think about it."

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Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump battled fiercely during their first presidential debate Tuesday in Philadelphia. Both candidates sought to make their case to voters with less than two months until Election Day, but Harris appeared to succeed with tactics designed to enrage the former president and bait him into attacking her. Harris said that world leaders were laughing at Trump and accusing him of belittling people. Trump was often out of control and and pushed a host of falsehoods, including the bizarre claim that immigrants in Ohio are eating people's pets. He also repeated lies about widespread fraud in the 2020 election. Registered voters who watched the debate broadly agree that Harris outperformed Trump, according to a CNN poll of debate watchers conducted by SSRS.

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🇺🇸 Debate recap

Vice President Kamala Harris last night set traps designed to provoke, rattle and enrage former President Donald Trump. And over and over, Trump stepped right into them.

Why it matters: With just eight weeks until the election, Harris delivered for Democrats at the presidential debate — the type of national stage that ended President Biden's political career less than three months ago.

  • She did so by being "exquisitely prepared," as former Trump debate coach Chris Christie described her, and by exploiting her opponent's well-documented triggers.
  • The result was a firehose of angry rants and bizarre claims by Trump that will fuel headlines and Democratic ads for weeks.

Zoom in: The DMV may not decide the presidential election, but there were some local mentions during the debate.

Catch up quick: Trump declined to express any regrets for his actions on Jan. 6, 2021, when his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. He instead blamed then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Mayor Muriel Bowser for not handling the rioters.

  • Bowser hit back on X: "Trump never offered DC 10,000 troops, and the President — not the DC Mayor — controls the DC National Guard."

Trump misrepresented statements about abortion made by former Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam in 2019, and falsely claimed that Democrats favor the "execution" of babies after they're born.

  • "It's not legal to kill a baby after it's born in any state," ABC's co-moderator Linsey Davis replied.

Flashback: Some Democrats were beginning to sweat over keeping Virginia in the blue column right before President Biden dropped out of the race.

Now, Harris has an eight-point lead over Trump among likely Virginia voters, per a Post-Schar School poll.

What's ahead: Harris' campaign called for a second presidential debate late last night.

  • Trump, talking live to Fox News' Sean Hannity in the post-debate spin room, didn't give a direct answer about accepting the challenge.

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Donald Trump faces his own debate fallout just months after benefiting from Joe Biden’s

WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump emerged Wednesday from a rocky debate against Kamala Harris looking to regain his footing with 55 days until Election Day, the first ballots already going out in Alabama and other states on the cusp of early voting.

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Nearly 60 million watched debate

At least 58 million people watched last night's presidential debate, according to preliminary Nielsen figures released today.

  • That's about 6.5 million more than watched the debate between former President Trump and President Biden.
  • And the numbers will probably rise once Nielsen finishes a more comprehensive tally.

👀 Context: The highest-rated game in the NFL's opening week averaged 29 million viewers. The debate roughly doubled that.

🗳️ Why it matters: Americans are tuned in to this election, especially now that Harris has replaced Biden atop the Democratic ticket.

  • Her well-received performance — and Trump's diversions into personal grievances and conspiracy theories — had a large audience even without accounting for coverage of the debate, or clips shared on social media. Those are likely to reach millions more people.
  • The debate gave voters a rare chance to see Harris answer questions, and may end up being the only opportunity to see the two candidates face off directly.

🎤 Trump told "Fox and Friends" this morning that he is "less inclined" to participate in another debate before the election.

 

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The claim: Haitian migrants are 'decapitating ducks in parks' and eating cats in Springfield, Ohio

Our rating: False

There is no evidence Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, did any such thing. A spokesperson said the city hasn’t had any substantiated reports of ducks being killed, nor have there been any credible reports of other animals, including cats, being harmed.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/09/11/haitian-migrants-pets-ducks-ohio-fact-check/75177917007/?

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Debate reaction

 

Voters and lawmakers are reacting to the debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump as the countdown continues to Election Day on November 5. Registered voters who watched the debate broadly agreed Harris outperformed Trump, according to CNN's flash poll, but the Harris campaign is emphatic that the debate did not change the trajectory of the tight contest. Trump has since launched an attack on ABC News, claiming the debate was "rigged" and faulting moderators who live fact-checked him on air. Some House Republicans defended Trump's performance but multiple Trump allies described what happened Tuesday night as a "missed opportunity." Trump is now weighing a rematch after Harris' team called for a second face-off in October.

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Here Are All of Trump’s Wild Debate Falsehoods That Went Unchecked

Moderators David Muir and Linsey Davis didn’t fact-check Trump on everything. Here’s what slipped by.

During Tuesday night's presidential debate, Donald Trump made at least 30 false claims—and he got away with most of them, in spite of the ABC News anchors' robust fact-checking of the president in real time.

The moderators stepped in four times to correct the record on the former president’s more outlandish claims during his wild showdown with Kamala Harris, including his assertion that illegal immigrants are eating pets and that Democrats support killing babies after they are born. They also flagged his claim that “crime is through the roof,” pointing out data showing violent crime has fallen.

Trump spent much of Wednesday ranting and raving against ABC News on his social media platform Truth Social, posting in rapid-fire succession links from far-right news sources siding with the former president, who said he got a “rigged deal” from the network. He told Fox News the moderators were “correcting everything” he said while letting Harris off scot-free. Why? “Because they’re dishonest," he said.

But the moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis, didn’t fact-check Trump on everything. In fact, many of his other lies went unchecked. Here’s what slipped by.

 

Immigration

Trump repeated one of his favorite false claims about dangerous illegal immigrants flooding the Southern border. “We have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums,” he said, adding that “21 million people” were pouring in.

In reality, there have been about 10 million encounters with migrants at the border since Joe Biden took office. Though there’s no publicly available data about prison time or residents of mental institutions, of the 1.4 million migrants apprehended at the border this year, Border Patrol has found only about 1 percent have criminal convictions.

The Economy

Trump lied about the state of the economy during his own presidency and Joe Biden’s.

“I had no inflation, virtually no inflation,” he said. “They had the highest inflation, perhaps in the history of our country.”

Though inflation fell at the end of Trump’s term, the cumulative rate over the course of his presidency was about 7.8 percent, according to CNN. And though inflation has been much higher since Biden took office, it has fallen over the past two years and came nowhere close to previous historic highs seen in the 20th century.

Trump also said the only jobs created under the Biden administration were “bounce-back” jobs that were lost to the pandemic but have now appeared again. However, employment totals passed their pre-pandemic levels in the summer of 2022, and the U.S. has added millions more jobs since then.

Ukraine

On the topic of Russia’s war against Ukraine, Trump alleged that Harris met with Vladimir Putin to try to stop him from invading Ukraine but that “three days later, he went in, and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid.”

Harris didn’t meet with Putin, but she did meet with U.S. allies at the Munich Security Conference in the days before the war began.

Trump also said the U.S. has given over $100 billion more to Ukraine than Europe has. According to a tracker from the German-based Kiel Institute, Europe had allocated and committed tens of billions more.

Joe Biden

At times, Trump seemed to long for his old opponent, mentioning Biden throughout the evening. In addition to the wild claim that the president “hates” Harris, his handpicked successor, the former president accused Biden of receiving “millions of dollars” from China and Ukraine and of orchestrating the criminal cases against him.

There is no evidence for either claim.

Other Lies

Trump also falsely said the Central Park Five “pled guilty” and “killed a person,” both of which are not true. They pleaded not guilty but served years in prison after they were falsely accused of the brutal sexual attack on a jogger, before they were exonerated years later. Trump took out full-page ads in the city’s newspapers against the five teenagers, suggesting they be put to death.

He said former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi “was responsible” for the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol because “she didn’t do her job.” Trump was indicted for conspiracy to subvert democracy for his role in the deadly insurrection, the day he invited unruly supporters to come to Washington and “fight like hell” to prevent the certification of Joe Biden’s electoral victory.

He also wasted no opportunity to lie about his opponent on the debate stage, employing a familiar attack about her previous presidential bid. “When she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed,” he said.

In fact, more than a dozen candidates dropped out of the crowded Democratic primary field before Harris in 2019, including several governors, New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/here-are-trumps-debate-lies-that-went-unchecked?

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Father of Ohio boy asks Trump not to invoke his son’s death in immigration debate

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (AP) — The father of an Ohio boy killed last year when a Haitian immigrant driver hit a school bus is imploring Donald Trump and other politicians to stop invoking his son’s name in the debate about immigration.

https://apnews.com/article/haitian-immigrants-vance-trump-ohio-springfield-d119b387175434c08597784ba82860ed?

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