stinsonmarri Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 4 hours ago, Theophilus said: Kenan is the great-grandson of Adam through Seth. The genealogy in Genesis lists him as the son of Enosh and the father of Mahalalel. Where do you see me spell the word Kenan? I spelled the word Kenaan. Please look at what I spell, and do not assume. The word Canaan is transliterated and is not the correct spelling. Afrikan people used the word K, and Europeans used the word C for subjugation. I explained all of this earlier and provided some quotes. And Kena‛an brought forth *Tsiḏon, his first-born, and Ḥěth, and the *Yeḇusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgashite. (Gen 10:15, 16) These names represent individuals and entire civilizations that played a crucial role in shaping the biblical narrative. It's time to challenge the traditional narrative. *Tsidon or Sidon: This is what they called themselves, but the Greeks called them Phoenicians because of the unique purple dye they used in the cloth they traded. Their language is Paleo Hebrew which means they wrote the alphabet we used today and they had their language. Their language was the lingua Franka of the time. A lice comb was found with their Kenaanite language, even in the Bible. This Kenaanite language, a significant part of history, was adopted by the Hebrews, challenging the traditional narrative. However, the Europeans were upset because the curse on Kenaan was a lie. Noah had no power to curse what YAHWEH blessed! It is time to tell the truth! But in the fourth generation, they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full. I do not know what Bible you are reading from because says the iniquity of the Amorites. You, as most, are so hung on Israel that you do not understand that Abraham came to people who were already worshipping YAHWEH first. When Abraham came to Kenaan, he was sent to learn about YAHWEH. Some of the Kenaanite was beginning to falter. So, if you open and read Gen 14 the entire chapter, you will first read that Keḏorla‛omer, whom the Europes call Chedorlaomersomer, was a Kushite on the throne as king of Elam! Herodotus claimed that he derived this information from the Egyptians. The Kushites were also called Ethiopians. The term Ethiopian comes from two Greek terms: Ethios, 'burnt,' and ops, 'face'; as a result, Ethiopian means 'burnt faces' (Winters, 2005). Herodotus and Homer described these Ethiopians as "the most just of men; the favorites of the gods" (Hansberry, 1981). The classical literature makes it clear that the region from Egypt to India was called by the name Ethiopia. Hansberry (1981) provides a great discussion of the evidence of African Kushites ruling in Asia and Africa. Some ancient scholars noted that the first rulers of Elam were of Kushite origin. According to Strabo, the first Elamite colony at Susa was founded by Tithnus, a King of Kush. Strabo, in Book 15, Chapter 3,728, wrote that, in fact, it is claimed that Susa was founded by Tithonus Memnon's father, and his citadel bore the name Memnonium. THE EPIC OF MEMNON Susa was generally believed to be the home of Memnon, the great Black warrior-king who is credited by Quintus of Smyrna with "...Bringing the countless tribes of his people who live in Ethiopia, land of the Black man," to Priam's Troy in support of his desperate war for survival against the hostile coalition of Greek city-states. "...Memnon came to help them. The Trojans were delighted to see him in their city. Quintus, The war at Troy, trans. F. M. Combellack (Norman: Univ. of Oklahoma) p. 48. The Hebrew people were more intimately associated with the Hamitic races than with the descendants of Japheth. Cush, or Kush, is ancient Ethiopia, which was in classical times called Nubia. It was not Abyssinia but included a part of Egypt and a part of the Sudan, extending from the first cataract of the Nile at Aswan as far south as Khartoum. In Egyptian inscriptions this land is called Kash, in Assyrian cuneiform texts, Kusu. Cush, however, included not only African Nubia but also the western part of Arabia bordering on the Red Sea. Some of the sons of Cush are known to have settled there. Zerah, the Cushite of 2 Chron. 14:9, and the Cushites of Isa. 45:14, mentioned with the Sabeans as men of stature, are thought to be western Arabians. About the time of Hezekiah, Judah was in contact with the African Cush, or Ethiopia, which is mentioned frequently in the later books of the OT (see 2 Kings 19:9; Esther 1:1; 8:9; Ps. 68:31; etc.). The SDA Bible Commentary by Nichol, F. D., ed. (1978) Vol. 1, p. 273 The Kenaanites were given the birthright, and words were added to make up a lie. Melchizedek knew YAHWEH EL SHADDAI along with Abram. This King-Priest was the ruler of the original name Urasalim. David and Paul mention him. He stated that YAHSHUA was in the order of a black Yebusite Melchizedek, and they did not call themselves Jebusited. Solomon contacted the King of Sidion and asked him for their great Oak wood and an architect to build the Temple. Huram, the King, was great friends with David and praised YAHWEH for Solomon. The king of Sidon also chose a man named Huram. He took Solomon's plans and built the magnificent Temple and the furnishing. Please read about it (2 Chron Chapter Chapter Two and 4:11) Before Moses' writings, Hammarubi knew the same Judgments and Statutes. He was the Amorite King of Babylon. YAHWEH came to the Kenaanites first, and as they began to falter, he called Abraham, who accepted the call. The Amorites had their kingdom and tribes for 430 years because iniquity was found in them! The Israelites didn't live in Egypt for over 430 years. When the time was up for the Amorites, they came out of Egypt. They were never enslaved people but servants. Servants get paid; enslaved people don't! Jacob prevailed with MICHAEL, who was THE SON of THE FATHER! Prevail means he overcame! IsraEL was a House of Prayer for all people. YAHWEH wanted them to witness. Israel was given more knowledge, Moses received the Commandments, and the 70 Elders, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, Moses, and Joshua saw THE SON ELOHIYM in HIS SPIRITUAL BODY, and they ate afar but with HIM, and they did not die! (Ex 241-11) The Bible cursed the Hebrew people because of what they knew and thought they were better than other people! Peter had a problem with that! So, in closing, YAHWEH gave IsraEL the choice of taking the blessing or the curse. They took the latter, and they are totally gone. YAHWEH destroyed them. Stop believing that the ten tribes are lost. They are not. Read 2 Chron Chapter Thirty. Most of them came back and were saved. But those who didn't, the Assyrians, took the kingdom of Israel and destroyed it because they fell from grace! But if you read Ezra and Nehemiah, you see the people who returned were called Israel. The Scribes and some Elite formed the Pharisees and stopped the people from saying YAHWEH ELOHIYM! They started the lies about Kenaan, and Europeans added on as they were translating the Bible and knew the truth. YAHWEH never called them Judeans; the Pharisees did! (Gen 9:27) Japheth are dwelling in the tents of Shem. They are the Jews! The last thing YAHWEH gifted Sidonians they were Kenaanites, but they too failed, and Ezekiel went to them. YAHWEH told Ezekiel to tell the King of Tyre he had become too proud, anducifer fell from grace, and he was acting just like him and would be destroyed. Let me clarify: YAHWEH does not be selfish. He stops serving YAHWEH. He was not Huram, but he knew the truth. So, he was told how Lstroy people unless they know HIM and stop serving HIM! Tyre was destroyed by Rome, and so was Carthage, who took that city over and made it theirs. In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Kenaan and swear to YAHWEH of hosts; one shall be called The city of destruction. (Isa 19:18) I plead with everyone to stop and read and study the Bible for themselves. Why do you think there are so many versions? Stop reading into things that are not true! Realize that sin is in the world and Satan wants to hate each other. People are coveted and are jealous of each other. Now the blacks want to take the most insulting word negro, claiming they are the Hebrews and they are not! I am standing for justice and truth. Many will not like it, but they have a right to accept or reject the truth. IsraEL in Revelation is not a church. If so, show me. The remnants are IsraEL who will finish the work and bring people into the fold. They must be sealed first, which is the time to do so. That is why I do not accept Project 2025. This is the time of Sorrow in Matt 24:1-14. You see, if it were possible, the elect would be lost because of Satan's evil powers. YAHWEH is still on the Throne! Satan started Project 2025; he wants people to force people to serve the way they want. What is so sad is that they don't obey YAHWEH themselves! Stand still and watch the wonders of YAHWEH; it is time to seal the 144,000 from all nations and kindred and then to usher in the Time of Trouble, not for the righteous, who will sealed. But the wicked will be harmed but not killed! Read Rev. Chapter Nine is there! Blessings and Good Night! Quote
stinsonmarri Posted July 21, 2024 Posted July 21, 2024 Pastor, I am sorry, but I saw all the notices. In this last reply, I tied it into Project 2025. I did not mean anything but to respond to the notifications. Please forgive!😪 [I will fix it. You will have this thread to continu eyour posts--Gregory Mattjews.] Quote
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted July 21, 2024 Author Moderators Posted July 21, 2024 Standard translations of the Bible are made from copies of ancient manuscripts (MSS) of the Biblical books. Those are typically written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek languages. As I understand Stinsonmarri's posts in this thread, she has often cited from what is called the Cepher Bible. As I understand it, the Cepher Bible is not based upon the standard ancient MSS of the Biblical books. Rather it inserts changes in spelling and words into the alleged Biblical text that the people who produced the Cepher Bible should have been placed in the Biblical text. IOW, those changes lack textual support. In fairness to Stinsonmarrii, the following is what those who support the Cepher Bible say about it. The Cepher Bible is a new translation of the Holy Scriptures1. It includes all of the books of the Hebrew Bible, along with a number of other apocryphal writings and forgotten books that did not make it into the traditional Biblical canon1. The word "cepher" means scroll, book, or even a numbered writing2. The Cepher sets forth a transliteration, rather than a substitution, of the names of the Father (Yahuah), Son (Yahusha) and Holy Spirit (Ruach HaQodesh)2. It is considered the most advanced and correct to antiquity of any collection of Biblical material available today3. Quote Gregory
Theophilus Posted July 22, 2024 Posted July 22, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 9:49 PM, stinsonmarri said: Stop believing that the ten tribes are lost. Who said that and who cares? What does this have to do with my post? On 7/20/2024 at 9:49 PM, stinsonmarri said: Noah had no power to curse what YAHWEH blessed! It is time to tell the truth! Evidently he did. As for me being hung up on Israel or whatever you are saying, I am just telling you, who dissect words, that Shemitic people are descendants of Shem. (Shemites-semites) As for what Bible I'm reading it is KJV, and the iniquity of the judgement was not quite full, for God to pronounce judgement on, Genesis 15:16 (NIV): "In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure." When getting ready to enter the Promised land Deuteronomy 9:4-5 (NIV): "After the Lord your God has driven them out before you, do not say to yourself, 'The Lord has brought me here to take possession of this land because of my righteousness.' No, it is on account of the wickedness of these nations that the Lord is going to drive them out before you... It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, the Lord your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." then Leviticus 18:24-25 (NIV): "Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants." They were judged. the Amorites and other Canaanite nations were judged and punished because of their sins. I still have no clue as to what you are getting at. All i see is a bunch of words. Quote
stinsonmarri Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Theophilus: I do not mind addressing anything you ask me. But let's be kind to each other. The truth is not mine; it is what is written. On 7/22/2024 at 10:43 AM, Theophilus said: Evidently, he did. On 7/22/2024 at 10:43 AM, Theophilus said: Genesis 15:16 (NIV): "In the fourth generation, your descendants will come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure." You needed to read all of the history of Israel: And an angel of YAHWEH came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break MY Covenant with you. and as for you, do not make a covenant with the inhabitants of this land – break down their slaughter-places.’ But you have not obeyed MY VOICE. What is this you have done? Therefore, I also said, ‘I AM not driving them out before you, and they shall be adversaries to you, and their mighty ones shall be a snare to you. (Judges 2:1-3) Abraham understood obedience; he lied once to Egyptians and again to a Righteous nation that he did not know. He learned, but his children did not. That is why they were destroyed after the Temple fell. (Deut Chapter Twenty-Eight) Several times, YAHWEH Said until they be destroyed and their seed. Jews are not Hebrew, and they cannot trace their DNA to them because their DNA does not exist anymore! The DNA will not say Hebrew but the Middle East. Like the Bible said, many people of Japheth moved into the Middle East! (Gen 9:27) So, what are you saying that YAHWEH allowed a drunk person to do HIS bidding? Let me provide what YAHWEH Said HIMSELF: And ELOHIYM blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. (Gen 9:1) Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging, and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. (Prov 20:1) Noah was not wise, and he fell from grace! Moses started this segment with knowledge, and he repeated it! And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. (Gen 9:18, 22) Moses showed that this segment dealt with Noah's sons and Kenaan. The birthright is a matter of great importance; it includes not only the blessing of an inheritance of wealth but also having Spiritual paramount of rank, dignity, and significance. The one who received it was to be the priest of the entire family line, who passed down to his posterity that the REDEEMER of the world would come. Having the enormous dignity of the birthright is a dedicated but humbling obligation that rests on the anointed receiver of the birthright. The son selected to inherit its blessings must dedicate his life to the service of THE MOST HIGH and HIS SON! The birthright was given by THE FATHER because HIS ONLY SON, not begotten (wrong Greek thought), was PRE-EXSITED with HIM. THEY had always been together. THE SON was devoted to HIS FATHER, and it was hard for YAHWEH to allow HIM to become flesh and be punished by death for the world's sins! The birthright was to be given to the firstborn, but down through Adam's lineage, the firstborn was shown as unworthy to receive it and his lineage! Before we make a judgment on others, especially from the Bible first see if THE ELOHIYM who are the ONLY ONES who can bless or curse flesh beings! Noah had no right to curse anyone, especially a young child who saw him in that condition with his clothes off. How dare anyone assume without knowing if changes were made to make it appear that Kenaan did something to his grandfather? Have you read the Mishna and Talmud, written by angry Levitical Scribes and some of the elite who followed them? We know as the Pharisees that YAHSHUA spoke against their traditions. The Pharisees had stopped Israel from using THE NAME YAHWEH and THEIR TITLE, ELOHIYM; that is how Europeans came up with God. Many want to fight, dispute, try to imitate, or make assumptions because a person refuses to follow the world! YAHSHUA clarified that HE had come in HIS FATHER’S NAME, YAH! But many would not receive HIM, but instead, another who calls himself God, and all religions of the world would receive his name! (John 5:43) When Noah was to bless his sons and announce the birthright, I feel by how and why Moses wrote to include Kenaan’s name, Noah was not happy that Japheth, his beloved eldest son’s son, was not selected! That is why he became drunk. I understand that it was because Esau was Issac's favorite! Judah was not Jacob’s oldest son. Kenaan was Ham’s son and he was a child. The question you must ask is, why was he so angry? So, the Pharisees started the lie, and the European scholars were angry and added to it. 1600, the enslaving of black people had begun, and the British joined and controlled it, who were the most significant power at that time! Finally, Seven essential things prove Kenaan received the birthright! Which is Perfection! 1. Kenaan knew YAHWEH before Abraham came to the land! The Name Yhwȝ as a People: Reconsidering the Amorite Evidence! By Daniel E. Fleming, New York University. Three thousand two hundred years ago, in the copper mines of Timna, YAHWEH was worshipped by the Kenaanites! By Nissim Amzallag, a Biblical Studies Researcher at Ben-Gurion University The Bible: Gen 14:17-22; 15:16. Chapter Twenty, Abraham visited a Righteous King. He is a Philistine, and this was the first time they met in Gaza! 2. Kenaan lineage only recorded of a King and Priest of EL SHADDAI Kenaan’s son Yebus and his tribe who had the only King-Priest, Malki-Tsedek (European translation Melchizedek), who had this said about him: Psa110:4 states that YAHWEH’S SON is after the order of this black man priesthood! MESSIAH means THE ANOINTED PROPHET, PRIEST, and KING! Paul made it plain in Heb 6:20; 7:1-3, 10-28. Let me make this clear: when Abraham met Malki-Tsedek, he did know who his parent was, and that is why Paul said that the Hebrews did not know this man's genealogy record! Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Strong stated very clearly what unrecorded paternity meant. biblehub.com 3. Tithing: The King of Sodom knew YAHWEH, and this was a warning when the loot and the people were taken. Abraham had learned about the tithing from the Amorites, and he did not go home but knew to come to Malki-Tsedek, the High Priest of El Shaddai, and there he worshipped YAHWEH and returned the tithe from King Sodom’s loot that belonged to YAHWEH! The King had not returned his tithing. But Abraham learned, and his seed would continue it! (Gen 14:21-24) 4. Ursalim History: The Sumero-Akkadian name of the Kenaanite city was Urusalim. The Assyrians call the city Ursalimmu. The Tell Amarna letters refer to Ursalim,' and the Ebla archives mention Urusalim. The Egyptians called it Rusalim. The city meant more than peace; Salim's meanings were deep, safe, sound, healthy, secure, and intact. 5. Kenaan’s oldest son, Tsiydon/ Sidon, the Greeks called Phoenicians because of their purple dye. They never changed their name. They created the alphabet we use today. Their language was not Semitic. It was Afrikan. These black people spoke this language before Abraham came to the land; a comb was found around 4,000 BCE written in their language! Their language was the lingua Franka due to their intensive trade in the known world and their fantastic shipbuilding. The Bible made it clear that the Kenaanites had their language! Isa19:18 It is funny these Bible scholars are trying to say the Afrasian language is Cham and Shem when the Asian people come from Kenaan except the Mongolians and Turks; they come from Mago belonging to Japheth. Their eyes slant down, and the Chinese family of people's eyes slant out and up! The Hebrew language is located with the Afrasian languages! 6. The architect of Kenaan’s lineage, Huram, built Solomon Temple, and The King of Sidon, named Huram, David's good friend, Praises YAHWEH! Read 2 Chron 3:1-17; 4:1-16. Sad those who knew the truth begin to have pride. Ezekiah was told by the King of Sidon that he had become prideful, just like Lucifer! (Eze Chapter Twenty-Eight) 7. Lineage of YAHSHUA, THE MESSIAH! Four Kenaan women are the only women mentioned as the lineage of YAHSHUA, which fits Malki-Tzedek’s order and led to the bloodline from Kenaan being anointed by YAHWEH with the birthright! Their names are Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and Bathsheba, and King David's grandfather was Ruth and Boaz’s son Obed. Read Matt Chapter One, and their names are the only women mentioned. Bathsheba is NOT mentioned, but it states the former wife of Uriah, the Hittite who David killed. He then married Bathsheba! YAHWEH did all his firstborn to live because of David’s sin, and then Solomon was born and became the last King of IsraEL! Remember, we all are created beings, and YAHWEH chooses our color according to HIS Pleasure. HE is no respect of color but choose those individually who will serve HIM! HIS House of Prayer is for all people. HE created us, and HE can bring us down low if we try to void HIS WORDS! Karmala Harris now shows the truth. I have been here for 73 years, and I have never seen anything like what is happening with a black, intelligent woman. Young people are going wild! Stand and watch YAHWEH! You quoted, "I still have no clue as to what you are getting at. All I see is a bunch of words." Well, I am sorry, but words make sense with THE HOLY SPIRIT, who will lead you into all truth. May HE lead you! I am here to provide it. HE makes the Words come alive because they come from the Bible. Blessings! Quote
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted July 26, 2024 Author Moderators Posted July 26, 2024 Stinsonmarri, your post above is typical. as you post with a prodigious amount of words, and great effort on your part. It is a reality, that as Theophilus said, he often has not idea as to what you are attempting to say. That is his reality. It is also a reality for others who read your posts. Theophilus is not alone in failing to understand what you are posting. Your response to his comment is to suggest to him that it is up to the Holy Spirit to inform him as to what you are attempting to communicate. A better response would have been for you to ask the Holy Spirit to help you to communicate in terms that others could understand. For the moment, you need to be aware that your posts are unread by many simply because people often have no idea as to what you are attempting to say. Quote Gregory
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted July 26, 2024 Author Moderators Posted July 26, 2024 Stinsonmarri, I did a word count one the post that you made just above mine. You wrote 1,635 words! I did not include in the word count, your quotations, and your introduction to them. That is more than many people would want to read. You do need to learn to write with more clarity. My post, just above this one, contains 152 words. People will read that amount, while your post of more than 10 times in length will go unread by many. Quote Gregory
Theophilus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 You told me to stop believing the ten tribes are lost. I never mentioned this.. You also to me to read my Bible. You assume I don't? You tell me me Noah lied. Where in the Bible does it say that? Then you say for me to ask the Holy Spirit to teach me? You assume He doesn't? He taught me about the Amorites. I did a study on it, and am firmly convinced that God was speaking of the judgement of them. So one of us, both saying we were led by the Holy Spirit, is wrong. I'm sticking with what i read. And if you desire kindness, quit accusing others of stuff. Quote
stinsonmarri Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Theophilus said: You told me to stop believing the ten tribes are lost. I never mentioned this.. You also to me to read my Bible. You assume I don't? You tell me me Noah lied. Where in the Bible does it say that? Then you say for me to ask the Holy Spirit to teach me? You assume He doesn't? He taught me about the Amorites. I did a study on it, and am firmly convinced that God was speaking of the judgement of them. So one of us, both saying we were led by the Holy Spirit, is wrong. I'm sticking with what i read. And if you desire kindness, quit accusing others of stuff. I never accuse you or anything! Yet, you can assume me from the beginning. I broke everything down to show you what the Bible shows. I said over and over that the iniquity meant the Amorites. If it meant the Amorites, then after it came to pass 430 years later, then Israel would leave Egypt. I also said that they had not been in Egypt for 430 years. It took a while before the entire family went to Egypt. Read Chapter Thirty Eight Judah was grown and had two sons that were grown. They were still living in Kenaan! The Amorites finally stop serving YAHWEH and they fell into iniquity. If you never mention the ten tribe, I was adding it to show you what happen. If that upset you than I am sorry for bringing it up. If you want to believe that Noah didn't lie, that is your choice. The Bible is plain, and all must make a choice. I have provided what the Bible shows, you do not have to believe it! I am not your judge, and neither are you mine. May we leave in peace! Quote
stinsonmarri Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 4 hours ago, Gregory Matthews said: Stinsonmarri, your post above is typical. as you post with a prodigious amount of words, and great effort on your part. It is a reality, that as Theophilus said, he often has not idea as to what you are attempting to say. That is his reality. It is also a reality for others who read your posts. Theophilus is not alone in failing to understand what you are posting. Your response to his comment suggests that it is up to the Holy Spirit to inform him what you are attempting to communicate. A better response would have been for you to ask the Holy Spirit to help you to communicate in terms that others could understand. For the moment, you need to be aware that your posts are unread by many simply because people often have no idea as to what you are attempting to say. I cannot read Theophilus' mind! I read what he is writing. I have seen on this forum many have written more than me. However, I show the facts by providing resources and Scriptures that may be long. To me, it is important to get the facts out. The Bible says THE HOLY SPIRIT will lead and guide us into ALL truth. I appreciate what you did by making this topic my thoughts. Please allow me to provide my thoughts. People can read books I am sure they read the thousands plus words I provided. I feel not being disrespectful that is all that needs to be said, and that is my stand! Blessings! Quote
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted July 26, 2024 Author Moderators Posted July 26, 2024 Stinsonmarri: You are allowed to post. No one has said you should not be allowed to post. People have given you advice. You are not required to accept that advice. Quote Gregory
stinsonmarri Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 8 minutes ago, Gregory Matthews said: Stinsonmarri: You are allowed to post. No one has said you should not be allowed to post. People have given you advice. You are not required to accept that advice. I treasure good advice even at seventy-three years old. We all can learn from each other. However, some feel their advice is to make a person feel condemned because of what they wrote. When a person does not understand their heart and their concerns, it is not what is said but how it is written. I want it to be understood that many will not like what I provide and I am aware of that! My message and it is a message is to provide it and allow those who are angry for THE HOLY SPIRIT to touch their heart. From the beginning of sin here on earth, it has ruled. Causing hatred, killing, prejudice, bias, divisiveness and so much more. When you have believed a lie so long it is hard to accept the truth. So, should we not provide it? We must stand against the odds. Remember you warned me and I said I can take the heat. People read what they want pastor and more words than I write. I am a historian and we give facts and resources. I have never seen one who does not provide long evidence of facts. My thoughts are to give evidence and leave it up to them. All I ask anyone is to not say something that I did not write or assume because of what I provide. Finally, the Bible gives advice and many do not like to read it and make excuses. They accept what they want to accept. Thanks for explaining it to and hope you understand I am not disrespecting you. Let's remember the importance of understanding and acceptance. Blessings! Quote
Theophilus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 4 hours ago, stinsonmarri said: I never accuse you or anything! Yet, you can assume me from the beginning. I broke everything down to show you what the Bible shows. I don't know what "you assume me" means.What I responded to is what you said. I saw nowhere where Noah lied. I am curious as to why this is so important. Romans 2:28, 29 and Gal 3:28-29 both say we are the children of Abraham and Jews. Paul counsels us against genealogies in Titus. By the way, I'm 72. Quote
stinsonmarri Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Just now, Theophilus said: I don't know what "you assume me" means.What I responded to is what you said. I saw nowhere where Noah lied. I am curious as to why this is so important. Romans 2:28, 29 and Gal 3:28-29 both we are the children of Abraham and Jews. Paul counsels us against genealogies in Titus. By the way, I'm 72. I never addressed my age to you, and yet you understood that! When you try to make what I said mean something totally different. I wrote Kenaan, not Kenan, whom you brought up as Adam's great-grandson. That is assuming because you did not know this is the correct spelling of Cham's baby son's name! You could have asked me why I was spelling Canaan that way. I do not understand how you could write Seth's grandson when I wrote Cham/Ham's son and gave Gen 9:18-27. Where are Seth, his son Kenan, and Adam mentioned in those verses? Theophilus, you were writing like you were angry with me and I did not know what I was talking about. It is there that Noah did not follow YAHWEH'S blessings to his sons. I also gave you seven essential Biblical facts to prove that intoxication is not wise! You have the right to believe what you want to think. However, the Bible makes it clear that an intoxicated person is not wise. If you are not wise, you do and say foolish things. I will stand for what the Bible says, which is clear! However, my job is to give the message. I do not cross the line of trying to lead and guide you into all truth. That is THE HOLY SPIRIT'S job. Another way I can bring you to the water, but I cannot make you drink! Your belief in THE HOLY SPIRIT to lead you to drink or not is between you two. I can ask you to pray about it; I know I will, and leave it at that! Blessings! Quote
stinsonmarri Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, stinsonmarri said: Romans 2:28, 29 and Gal 3:28-29 both we are the children of Abraham and Jews. Paul counsels us against genealogies in Titus. I will repeat this: the Jews are the Hebrews. “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”(1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3) “Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania.”The Jewish Encyclopedia A latest DNA study solves the long standing controversy regarding the origin of Europe's Ashkenazi Jews stating that their maternal lineage came from Europe. The researchers at the University of Huddersfield used archaeogenetics to solve the controversy over the origin of Ashkenazi Jews. Whether they migrated from Palestine in the first century AD or their ancestors were Europeans who converted to Judaism, they analyzed DNA samples to investigate the prehistoric settlements of Europe by migrants from the Near East. Analysis of the mitochondrial DNA samples revealed that the Ashkenazim female line descended from southern and western Europe and not the Near East. DNA analysis claims that most of the Ashkenazi Jews were at least half genetically Europeans, debunking the previous assumptions that they were of the Middle Eastern region. "The origins of the Ashkenazim is one of the big questions that people have pursued again and again and never really come to a conclusive view," said Professor Martin Richards, head of the Archaeogenetics Research Group based at the University of Huddersfield and co-author of the study, who has described the new data as "compelling." Ashkenazi, in Hebrew, means 'Germans' and is used for Jews of Eastern European origin who historically spoke Yiddish or Judeo-German. Not much is known about the history of Ashkenazi Jews before they moved out from the Mediterranean and settled in present-day Poland around the 12th century. DNA Samples Confirm Ashkenazi Jews are of European Descent: Study; 2024 Science World Report-First Posted: Oct 09, 2013 05:00 AM EDT According to Dr. Harry Ostrer, a pathology, pediatrics, and genetics professor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, on average, all Ashkenazi Jews are genetically as closely related to each other as fourth or fifth cousins, LiveScience reports. Until the Temple fell, the people always called themselves Israel! Historically, many Israel did not move back to Yahrusalim (this is the ancient Hebrew spelling). That is why the Book of Esther became canonized. It shows that many people of different nationalities joined what translated as Judeans. YAHWEH never called the people Judeans but IsraEL for a reason. I will not give you the details, but there is proof. The word Jew was changed from Ioudaios by the Greeks and the Romans, which means Judeans by Europeans. The J came about in the 1500 AD by an Italian! Gen 9:27 Noah said this is partially correct, a historical fact, and the DNA proves it! Finally, the majority did not believe what YAHSHUA, the disciples, and the apostles taught and called themselves. “The Way” is mentioned several times in the book of Acts (Acts 9:2; 19:9, 23; 22:4; 24:14, 22 [ESV]). The Jews around the world accept the Pharisee belief called the Rabbinical Judah faith! Rabbinic Judaism has its roots in the Pharisaic school of Second Temple Judaism and is based on the belief that Moses at Mount Sinai received both the Written Torah (Torah she-be-Khetav) and the Oral Torah (Torah she-be-al Peh) from God. The Oral Torah, transmitted orally, explains the Written Torah. The Book of Jewish Belief, By Louis Jacobs Now, that is why I said the Jews were not the Hebrews! The Bible warned not to add or subtract from the Bible. It has, which is why so many versions make people believe many invalid things and cover up the truth. I am sorry if it is long. When the truth is proven, it is longer! Blessings! Quote
Theophilus Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 We are now jews according to the New Testament. What good does it do to study genealogy? I know what intoxication does, but nowhere does it say Noah lied. Since you have brought up your age, I thought I'd bring up mine? 21 hours ago, stinsonmarri said: When Noah was to bless his sons and announce the birthright, I feel by how and why Moses wrote to include Kenaan’s name, Noah was not happy that Japheth, his beloved eldest son’s son, was not selected! That is why he became drunk Here it is :You feel. Quote
Theophilus Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 Marri, I am sorry if I offended you. I don't agree with you. Let's leave it at that. Quote
stinsonmarri Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 Theophilus, I never asked you to believe in me. I am a human being. I asked you to look at the facts, pray, and allow THE HOLY SPIRIT to lead you. You, as do I, must work out our soul salvation. However, the Bible gave a guide to search the Scripture. You want to believe the norm without turning every stone. But what if we challenge the norm, question the beliefs, and critically examine the teachings? If you do not see what YAHSHUA said in vain, do people worship ME? Teaching the tradition and doctrine of men. (Matt 5:15) If you do not know how quickly the earth became corrupt with Adam's oldest son. You accept someone who put in the Bible Jews, or if Noah became intoxicated and spoke unwise things, he did not tell the truth. Because the Bible did not say the words Noah lied, that matters more to you than seeing the signs. It is not me because I don't have Heaven or Eternal Fire THE FATHER THE JUDGE DOES! I have one commission: to provide you with what the Bible says. The Bible clarified that people will be lost because of the lack of knowledge. (Hosea 4:6) Closing look at Trump and Project 2025! It is the same thing when Satan was kicked out of Heaven. People still believe that they are keeping the Commandments and they explain how to keep them. When you look at how they list the Commandments is not what the Bible says. We say America is a Constitution of laws, and many are fighting to keep democracy. Yet, they fail to understand how to keep Yahweh's Commandments. Lucifer could no longer stay in Heaven. The true Gospel will be taught all over to every nation, but many will reject it because: And for this cause, ELOHIYM shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2Th 2:11, 12) It took me forty years to realize that truth had been hidden. I realized I had to do like the Bereans did when Paul gave them the message. They searched the Scriptures, which means to research, and didn't believe until they found out it was truth. Find out by searching what I gave you to see if it is so. THE HOLY SPIRIT will guide you, but you must humble yourself and check out the facts prayerfully. Blessings and Happy Sabbath! Quote
stinsonmarri Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Theophilus said: Here it is :You feel. I mentioned Kenaan's age because I was trying to understand why Noah was so upset with a young child. It's important to remember that Kenaan was just a child, not an adult. You do that, correct? 1 hour ago, Theophilus said: Marri, I am sorry if I offended you. I don't agree with you. Let's leave it at that I want you to understand on thing, I am just the messenger. I provided Scriptures and other evidence. I cannot make you believe anything. That is not my job. I hope you have prayed and invite THE HOLY SPIRIT to lead and guide you. If I am wrong HE will lead you to Scriptures that will show that YAHWEH accepted him being intoxicated and becoming angry with a young child. That this was okay and it dosen matter if you are drunk the you are wise. So, Scriptures will show not what you or I feel but what the Bible says. That is what I stand. You did not offend me and I do want you to think that way. All I want is to prove by the Bible that what is says is true. You are wise if you drank and show where any man can curse anyone. I read only YAHWEH give blessings and curses. Man has no power to curse, show where they are permitted to do so! Remember my message is open to discussion if shown in the Bible I was wrong. I do not accept Greel words, I accept what YAHWEH gave to IsraEL and nor Israel that rejected THE MESSIAH or the Jews. That is Rabbanical Judaism from the Pharisees! Quote
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