Why are there so many MAGA Adventists?

[Anderoo]

Do they not see that they are aligned with Apostate Protestants who are rapidly constructing an image to the Beast?

[Gustave]

The political left repeatedly attempts to classify MAGA as the Baba Yaga but in reality, most MAGA folks just believe that Children shouldn't be subjected to predation by members of the LGBTQQAA++ Community and also believe that men have zero business in women's bathrooms unless an emergency is pending. These two things have cost the Democrat Party many independent votes - with what looks like to be even more in the next election. 

[bonnie1962]

I am a lifelong christain   conservative. republican. Does that make me Maga anything? It depends largely what that means to you. I cannot think of anything that the democratic party endorses that I could really get behind. Many areas sound good until you get to the nitty gritty and the way "good" is promoted. The hatred spewing from the left is something that is hard to understand.  All of us at one time or another has intensely disliked a president but have you ever witnessed the depth of the hatred for Trump and all things conservative? Maybe before I was old enough to be aware but I can't think of any. It is like a type of sicknessI literally had to pull away from a friend of many years because of that sickness. Everytime she called it didn't take long and she was  hammering at Trump. I asked her to stop as I didn't live and breathe politics. I didnt care  if she voted for Daffy Duck. It didnt help as she wanted to make sure I knew all the dirt. She found what she considered gospel in books written by those definitely not supporters. I asked her to think a minute about what she was saying. I asked her what she thought about the books about the Clinton. Well those weren't true. You couldn't believe everything you read . It was just that poorlu thought out. Remember the hatred started early as Trump came down the elevator and never relented.  I have said from the beginning I would not want to be his enemy. Do most republicans believe or like everything that comes out of his mouth? Or the way he bulldozes his way. Nope. I have no problem stating that. But looking at what the democrats have offered is something I could not embrace in anyway.

The liberals whine and carry on about the women that are harmed due to abortion. That should not be but initially many on the right did not publically voice opposition to abortion until the left pushed it to the wall. Abortion on demand, any age for any reason, while medical science  developed ways for "fetuses" at younger and younger  gestation to survive.  Then the push back at times harmed those they wanted to protect. I never cared or gave much thought to cross dressers until it was crammed down my throat by the left, telling me how awful I or others were because we did not embrace it as just another lifestyle . I mean who should object to drag queens at a public library.

I was very good friends with a lesbian couple, couldn't have been nicer or better friends. Worked with many, was very comfortable with the people themselves. But again crammed down my throat trying to get me to agree, What the heck, just another lifestyle. Do I like or lack sympathy for the way many have been treated. No I don't, but it goes both ways.  I think  there are very isolated cases where transgender is very real. Do I think it is almost epidemic, no I don't but I am expected to believe it and behave as if I do.  I don't care what you believe, just don't expect me to pretend we are on the same page.Do conservatives always handle those issues the way I would like to see. No. But some feeling rather confident now with more power, push back way to hard. Willing to overlook the flaws in Trump because finally it appears someone is listening.

How many years did the left overlook the obvious flaws in Biden? Biden time and time again showed exactly who he was, no one on the left cared. Those on the left saw the man and fawned  all over him simply because he wasn't brash Trump. As far as I am concerned , When his son publically denied his own child, one he knew was his and his father backed him up by publically  not acknowledging her as a grandchild removed any doubt as  who they were. As this child grows up she will be left with the knowledge the most important man in the country could not bring himself to acknowledge her.

Conservatives are not opposed to charitable giving, but want it to go to really in need not to those that can put their hand down and get off their duff. The list is endless. If that makes me or other SDA Maga republicans I guess I can live with it.

I haven't the time to go into the "peaceful" riots but again the left was very encouraging to those trying to burn my town down Have you ever witnessed a large republican gathering leave behind the mess and many time violence the left does.

Both sides are guilty of hypocrisy and worse. But the left seems to wear it as a crown.

Trump is more than a little imperfect but his imperfections are right out there for the world to see. Those like the Kennedys, Clintons, and Biden cover their imperfections with a obvious hypocrisy and the left is fine with that.

I have little doubt that both the right and left will bring us to the fulfillment of prophesy.

[bonnie1962]

7 minutes ago, Gustave said:

The political left repeatedly attempts to classify MAGA as the Baba Yaga but in reality, most MAGA folks just believe that Children shouldn't be subjected to predation by members of the LGBTQQAA++ Community and also believe that men have zero business in women's bathrooms unless an emergency is pending. These two things have cost the Democrat Party many independent votes - with what looks like to be even more in the next election. 

What I find interesting is the stark difference between the families. Biden claiming to be a christian and Trump right out there with who he is. Biden raised a family that should make him bow his head in shame, while Trump, giving a pretty good  example of a street fighter raised his family without drugs, children out of wedlock,etc.  But still the Trump siblings are gossip fodder and Biden adored.

[Gustave]

I've seen some stellar parents that had trainwreck kids and I've seen (while growing up) parents that were worse than a trainwreck who's kids turned out rock solid. There was this one case where the parents literally didn't care what the kids did (there were 3) and every Friday, Saturday night and Sunday it was a free-for-all. Everyone expected the kids to turn out the worst. Crazy thing was all three kids ended up going to college, getting great jobs with two of them becoming wealthy. You just never know.

[Anderoo]

Interesting replies. They immediately go to attacking democrats as if my post was promoting democrats. The problem with you people is that you can’t pull your heads out of your false dichotomies! Our categories are not God’s categories!

listen and learn:

https://www.misda.org/media/news/religious-liberty-sabbath

 

[bonnie1962]

16 hours ago, Anderoo said:

Interesting replies. They immediately go to attacking democrats as if my post was promoting democrats. The problem with you people is that you can’t pull your heads out of your false dichotomies! Our categories are not God’s categories!

listen and learn:

https://www.misda.org/media/news/religious-liberty-sabbath

 

I don't know you?  I believe you are new but I believe you were deliberately attacking Conservative republicams. That might be the explain why the "attack" on democrats

Our categories are not God’s categories!

I hope you don't believe that is some kind of a revelation you are sharing

 

[Gustave]

You had "apostate protestants" in your O.P. - the definition of which is, "a person who renounces a religious belief". Your post had a religious connotation and I find it ironic given that Adventists renounced the Trinity Doctrine from the 1st SDA Pioneer down through to the death of Ellen White. Wouldn't that make Adventists "apostate" whereas the Trinity Doctrine is concerned? Last I checked the SDA Church "officially" rebuked the Lutheran, Reformed, Eastern Orthodox, Baptist, Methodist and literally every other "Protestant" Church for stating in their Articles of Faith that God is 1 Being without body or parts. Aside from a very few folks within the SDA Church admitting this position was wrong I've never heard a repudiation of that teaching. 

When you say many SDA's are MAGA and this means that they are building "an image to the beast" what do you mean? What would you call it when a religious institution claims that believing Jesus is God Almighty is a false doctrine? How would you explain this? 

 

 

 

[Joe Knapp]

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The problem with you people is that you can’t pull your heads out of your false dichotomies! Our categories are not God’s categories!

No, that's not the problem.  You see, we are older and wiser. We realize everything is not black and white.  There are shades of gray. 

What was the purpose of that link?   https://www.misda.org/media/news/religious-liberty-sabbath

There is nothing to listen to there. The topics look interesting, but I am not going to hunt for a link to listen.