Stan Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 We don't talk about "THE SKY IS FALLING" messengers that desensitize us with sensational messages, from the 'upcoming' Y2K crisis (1990 era), the oil crisis that will shut down food going to the cities (1980 era), Sunday Law panics (ongoing) and a host of others things that never happened.. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 The Sunday Laws have already been upheld nationally. But the panic is ongoing ... YES. Some will always panic. The Lord promises to provide for our needs though and that is all I need to know. So ... even if the Sky is falling ... I will not be afraid. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Well, I had one article published in Sweden, and another in the Review, where I DID take on precisely this subject. So far as I know, I'm the first writer in SIGNS that wrote an article about a natural disaster (the 2004 boxing day tsunami) which stated that natural disasters are NOT a sign of the end. If we do as you suggest, Stan, some of our most prominent, eh, 'preachers' would fall silent. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerr Posted February 19, 2007 Moderators Share Posted February 19, 2007 Did Noah stop preaching "THE SKY IS FALLING" D (deluge) minus 20 because it hasn't happened the last 100 yrs? Did he stop at D minus 9? Minus 1? Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 I suspect that by the time the fourth generation AFTER Noah began to die, they might have needed to rethink their presentation. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerr Posted February 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted February 20, 2007 Same wine, different wineskin. Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 Please do not get me wrong, there are clear signs that Jesus is coming... Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Quote: Same wine, different wineskin. I have no clue what you intended by that. I do know that Jesus said that was a bad combination. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olger Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 We don't talk about "THE SKY IS FALLING" messengers that desensitize us with sensational messages, from the 'upcoming' Y2K crisis (1990 era), the oil crisis that will shut down food going to the cities (1980 era), Sunday Law panics (ongoing) and a host of others things that never happened.. Haven't you heard all the "global warming" misery merchants? They're selling the stuff on every corner in "mediaville" . olger Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted February 20, 2007 Author Share Posted February 20, 2007 All of these seem very compelling at the time, the presenters almost raise themselves to be prophets at the time. One of these will catch some off guard. Be ready at all times... even if al looks safe and peaceful. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gerr Posted February 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted February 20, 2007 Does the basic message of the Bible change? The thought, the message, is the same. But it needs to be adapted to each culture, each generation, so that the old wine tastes like new wine. Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevin Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Quote: Haven't you heard all the "global warming" misery merchants? They're selling the stuff on every corner in "mediaville" . olger Following the advice of the scientists has resulted in dramatic reductions in smog levels in major cities dramatic improvements in water quality dramatic reductions in polio, smallpox, and many other childhood diseases dramatic reductions in various varieties of cancer and other old age diseases dramatic increases in the number of people a continent can sustain dramatic increases in the quality of life In almost all cases the science went from being leading edge "wacky" to main-stream in one or two lifetimes. And in almost all cases you can still find wackos today who dispute the underlying science. /Bevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Quote: Following the advice of the scientists has resulted in Following the advice of some scientists have had positive results. Following the advice of others has led to atrocities and disasters. And often the correct scientists were in the minority, indeed, against the scientific 'consensus.' Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bevin Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Quote: And often the correct scientists were in the minority, indeed, against the scientific 'consensus.' but, unlike in the religious sphere, the correct scientists' hypothesis has become the consensus theory Evolution comes to mind, where it started as a universally opposed idea, and steadily became mainstream. Relativity did not take long - the experimental results actually preceded the explanation and were compelling enough. Continental drift is more recent example. Ulcers being a result of bacteria is an even more recent one. /Bevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 This thread seems to have gotten off topic a bit. Quote: We don't talk about "THE SKY IS FALLING" messengers that desensitize us with sensational messages "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:3, 4) We should keep the end-time message in front of the people. However we need to do it responsibly. There is a fairly good chance that we will die before Jesus returns. However there is also a fairly good chance that we will not. That is the balanced message we need to present. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Quote: This thread seems to have gotten off topic a bit. I have noticed these words being used a lot lately. Do we have an official policeman to get things back on track ?? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Here he is Just click the little smiley icon in the tool bar. :tu Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 How about the currant scares. Nile virus Bird flu Mad cow Global warming Flu vaccine shortages Doesn't each scare create groups of scientists that think outside the box for answers? Can a scare be a good thing? The church should teach and guide members to "not" panic at every new scare. But to be watchful. Just as we are to be watchful and ready for Jesus' return. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Yeah Amelia ... you are so right. For some reason SDAs are ripe for scares like global warming. I have never seen more snow in my entire life than what we have right now. How is that for global warming !!!?? These things come and go out of vogue. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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