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  1. Stan

    Autocorrect

    like if you understand.
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  2. rudywoofs (Pam)

    Autocorrect

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  3. JoeMo

    The sad Christmas season

    LHC, May God send you and your family a deluge of peace and comfort. Your spirituality and faith will see you though times like this.
    1 point
  4. Gregory Matthews

    Women Ordination and Christmas on Dec.25

    As I have often said; The Biblical issue is the role that women should have in spirituality. In is not ordination. Look closely at the texts often cited which are believed written by Paul. Those texts do no mention ordination. Speaking and remaining silent in services does not relate to ordination. Speaking and remaining silent related to a role. When Paul wrote about speaking and remaining silent he did not list an exception. E.G. He did not write that women should remain silent in church unless they exercised the gift of prophecy. Whatever he meant, he did not qualify what he wrote with an exception. I am reminded by a clergyman of another denomination who once said to me: I cannot understand how a denomination that had a woman, Ellen White, as an early leader is having this debate. I agree.
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  5. Kevin H

    Women Ordination and Christmas on Dec.25

    The problem with some of the posts here is that they are full of ideas that the authors THINK the Bible is saying and reading ideas into Paul's words of what they think is being said, but which does not hold up to close Bible study. For example one post said that for 2,000 years there was no issue about women's ordination and that it has only been an issue for the past 30 years. However, there was a big debate over women's ordination 200 years before Jesus was born which carried over to the years of his life and ministry. The point was that back then it was the conservatives who wanted to CONTINUE to ordain women and the liberals wanted Judaism to STOP ordaining women. And as you look at this historical context of the debate you will realize that Jesus ordained women. We find places where Paul does not practice what you are claiming that he is preaching. So either Paul was a hypocrite or you misunderstand your proof texts. And if you were to study your texts closely you will learn that you are misunderstanding them and they do not contradict Paul's practice, and that Paul was positive for the ordination of women. And a little more than 100 years ago the New York Conference of Seventh-day Adventists wanted to ordain women. The Atlantic Union approved of ordaining women. They would have started ordaining women except that General Conference President A. G. Daniels was visiting. Now elder Daniels agreed with them and said that New York should start ordaining women. However he asked for them to wait. He said that too many people were confused on what the Bible was actually teaching on this topic and would get upset at women being ordained. He said that he was going to ask Mrs. White to start writing some articles to try to educate the church. Mrs. White had the chance to nip the problem in the bud. However she did write the articles about women in ministry. But this was towards the end of Mrs. White's life and she soon died, but she started the process, but some historical issues put the topic on the back burner where it was forgotten. Posts here do not show awareness to these issues. You are hanging your hope on reading into some proof texts and assuming that this was a new idea. However the Bible teaches the ordination of women. Jesus ordained women, Paul recognized the ordination of women, and Mrs. White instead of stopping the ordination of women started to educate in what the General Conference President was to lead to the ordination of women.
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  6. phkrause

    W. Augustus Cheatham

    W. Augustus Cheatham, an education official in the administration of U.S. President Jimmy Carter who went on to become the longest-serving vice president at Loma Linda University, has died after an eight-year battle with brain cancer. http://www.adventistreview.org/church-news/w.-augustus-cheatham,-helper-to-jimmy-carter-and-loma-linda-university,-dies-of-brain-cancer
    1 point
  7. phkrause

    Joke of the Day

    A Spanish captain was walking on his ship when a soldier rushes to him and exclaims, "An enemy ship is approaching us!" The captain replies calmly, "Go get my red shirt." The soldier gets the shirt for the captain. The enemy ship comes in and heavy rounds of fire are exchanged. Finally, the Spaniards win. The soldier asks, "Congrats sir, but why the red shirt?" The captain replies, "If I got injured, my blood shouldn't be seen, as I didn't want my men to lose hope." Just then, another soldier runs up and says, "Sir, we just spotted another twenty enemy ships!" The captain calmly replies, "Go bring my yellow pants."
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