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Are you a Vegetarian?
Gail and one other reacted to Outta Here for a topic
An heavenly diet will be wonderful! One thing will be sure--I won't have to worry anymore about whether or not my diet is "right" with the Lord, and "right" with what my body needs for optimal health.2 points -
Forum/Thread for Adventist Women
Liz and one other reacted to Stan for a topic
ail has that set up.... no men allowed, not sure if it is active still. She blocked me from it and I support that.2 points -
Why would I tell you ...
rudywoofs (Pam) and one other reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
Hey, Photodude. You discovered my secret. I formulated a rebellion. I removed the old potentate and took over. However, as an act of mercy I left Stan with one kingdom to rule. He remains Director of Financial Affairs with responsibility for all forum payments.2 points -
Forum/Thread for Adventist Women
Liz reacted to Outta Here for a topic
Sorry, Gerry, but sometimes women and men need to have a place to talk about issues regarding the things that primarily affect their own sex.1 point -
i'd vote for Trump!
rudywoofs (Pam) reacted to lazarus for a topic
Seriously though...three reasons. He won't stay conservative for long. By the time he's a couple of years in office he'll be Democrat again. I prefer an open bigot to a closeted one. He's a great entertainer.1 point -
Adventist Reform Movement
JoeMo reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
1) They tend to go beyond what were absolutes. 2) They are more strict in their membership requirements. I will give you an example. I served 20 years in the U.S. Army--18 of those years were as a SDA Chaplain. During all 20 of those years I was a conscientious objector and at no time was I armed. Due to my service in the U.S. Army, I would not be allowed to become one of their members. 3) In the SDA Church, we allow considerable diversity in belief and life style. They do not. Take jewelry, for example: As a male I would have been required to keep my tie in place by a safety-pin hidden behind the tie. I would not have been allowed to wear any kind of such a device that could be seen. 4) You ask: "Why can't Seventh-day Adventists just follow the counsel that God has given us?" What you are really saying is: Why can't you just follow my understanding of the council that God has given you? 5) You bring up a fundamental issue as to unity. What is it. Is it total agreement on every point of belief and lifestyle. Not according to EGW as she tells us that God has allowed some of these issues to divide us in an attempt to force us to greater individual Bible study. So, we are likely to never totally agree on every point of belief and life style. 6) My understanding of unity is that it is a common mission/goal. 7) Let me illustrate from my background: When we go to war, the one supreme commander may be from the Army, may be from the Air Force and may be from the Navy. NOTE: The supreme commander of the military forces that invaded Grenada was a Naval Admiral. He was in charge of the Army, Air Force and Marines as well as the Navy. 8) In the military the person in charge on the ground has ultimate authority to conduct the military operations in whatever manner desired. The Commander of the invasion of Iraq chose to use the ground forces in a manner that was in violation of accepted Army doctrine at that time. He was in charge. He had been given a goal/ mission. It was up to him as to how he accomplished that goal/mission. 9) Perhaps we should worry more about whether or not someone (group) is accomplishing their mission than how they are doing it. NOTE: Yes there are boundaries. NOTE: Much of my information about them comes from several years of following them and from personal contact with their leadership at that time.1 point -
Adventist Reform Movement
Jessie-Jess reacted to Gregory Matthews for a topic
I will give you a brief statement about the Reform Movement: 1) They claim their beginnings in events in Europe (primarily Germany) during WWI and WWII. NOTE my comments will be related more to the WWII Era as it is more recent. 2) They allege wrong doing on the part of certain SDA leaders. There was wrongdoing on the part of those leaders. The Reform Movement is correct in their basic statement that there was wrongdoing. The actual truth of the matter is little known by either the SDA Church or by the Reform leaders. In the past 10 to 20 years some historians have begun to discover the extent of the wrongdoing. But, in my thinking, the actual extent is little known by both sides. 3) The actual reality is that some leaders of the Reform group also committed wrongdoing against the SDA denomination. Their wrongdoing was clearly involved in the response made by the SDA leadership, which was wrong. IOW, the truth of the matter is that no one's hands were clean. There was major wrongdoing on both sides. 4) Following the end of WW II, the General Conference attempted to resolve the issues and bring the two groups back into a common fellowship. That effort failed. 5) Within the past 12 months another effort has been made to bring that two groups together in Germany. That effort has achieved some success. Wrongdoing has been admitted on some levels. Forgiveness has been asked. An agreement has been reached which has resulted some of the Reform members returning to a common fellowship with the SDA denomination. As to the doctrinal beliefs of the Reform group: Generally they are much more conservative than most SDAs. Take your pick on the subject, they are likely to be more conservative--dress, Sabbath keeping, diet, military service.1 point -
Are you a Vegetarian?
JoeMo reacted to B/W Photodude for a topic
Just from my experience, kosher meat just tasted healthier. And the aging kind of turns my stomach to hear it. I mean like, isn't it supposed to be buried by then? We can get into all kinds of quandaries when you try and guess what we will be doing in heaven. I am not sure how you would even cook in heaven so you will have you eat your "created meat" extremely rare, as in raw. In order to have a fire to cook with, you will have to burn trees! People always say flowers will never die. It would seem that neither will trees. I suspicion that to live in heaven will be the ultimate respect for life that we cannot even imagine. Of course, we will also have the relief from the vermin and pests we have today in this earth and all things in heaven will have a purpose. Seems some life forms in this world have no purpose other than to pester and multiply.1 point -
Old Covenant vs New Covenant
Ron Amnsn reacted to 8thdaypriest for a topic
Scripture DOES SAY that many Israelites were "cut off" or "broken off" (from the Olive tree) "because of unbelief". This breaking "off" happened all the way along, and is still happening. So - many Jews who HEARD the truth of the Gospel, were "broken off" from God's true Israel, when they refused to BELIEVE in Jesus Christ as Messiah. Non - DNA descendants of the original Israel, are "grafted in" to Israel by faith, and DNA descendants (as well of the grafted in) are "broken off" if they continue in "unbelief".1 point -
Are you a Vegetarian?
GayatfootofCross reacted to JoeMo for a topic
I don't know about elsewhere, but there are plenty of places here in Colorado to buy organic, hormone-free and antibiotic-free beef that has been grass-fed in organically grown pastures. It's a little more expensive than standard commercial beef; but much safer and more nutritious. Re-reading this, I made it sound like I eat a side of beef per day. I only eat beef a couple times per month - usually in the form of a burger when I'm travelling. I eat steak or roast maybe 4 times a year. Most of my family's protien comes from natural honey-smoked salmon and sardines; chicken maybe once or twice a week. Our breakfast almost always consists of unsweetened yogurt and fresh fruit; and dinner is usually a mix of raw leafy veggies with tomatoes, avocado, salmon, and feta. Lunch is whatever I can find in the fridge and throw in a bag. Today it's veggie chili with roasted green chile on the side.1 point -
Gospel to the "whole" world?
JoeMo reacted to Tom Wetmore for a topic
This topic does raise some difficult and seemingly unresolvable dilemmas. There are entire people groups such as noted in the OP that have disappeared from the face of the earth, not to mention innumerable individuals that have lived and died without hearing the gospel, not even hearing of Jesus name. What about them? And even now, it seems to us that we are having great success in growing the body of Christ with evangelism and thousands being baptized in a single evangelism efforts. But put that in perspective of the population growth numbers worldwide and we are no even keeping up with that. More broadly, The percentage of Chrisitians in the world is shrinking. This is reinforces the idea that in the end, it will not be our efforts that finish the work. It can only happen by supernatural means. God will step in and once again demonstrate that it is Him all along that accomplishes His purposes. We will stand back awestruck.1 point -
Understanding the Gospel Through the Book of Life
Deaconess reacted to Samie for a topic
Overcoming necessitates a fight to be won. My brother once said no one can beat him in tennis and that he never lost a match. And he's probably right because he does not play tennis. But neither can he win.1 point -
Are you a Vegetarian?
Deaconess reacted to B/W Photodude for a topic
Here are some excerpts from a link to an article discussing Vit B-12: B12 synthesis is known to occur naturally in the human small intestine (in the ileum), which is the primary site of B12 absorption. As long as gut bacteria have cobalt and certain other nutrients, they produce vitamin B12. Dr Michael Klaper argues that vitamin B12 is present in the mouth as well and intestines. Furthermore, Dr Virginia Vetrano states that active Vitamin B12 coenzymes are found in bacteria in the mouth, around the teeth, in the nasopharynx, around the tonsils and in the tonsilar crypts, in the folds at the base of the tongue, and in the upper bronchial tree. Absorption of the natural B12 coenzymes can take place in the mouth, throat, oesophagus, bronchial tubes and even in the upper small intestines, as well as all along the intestinal tract. This does not involve the complex enzyme mechanism for absorption (Intrinsic Factor) in the small intestine as required by cyanocobalamin. The coenzymes are absorbed by diffusion from mucous membranes (11). A B12 deficiency can be caused by antibiotics (from the drugs themselves and contained in milk and meat), alcohol (alcohol damages the liver, so drinkers need more B12) and smoking (and all high temp cooked food is smoky) and stress also raises B12 needs). http://www.vibrancyuk.com/B12.html Three points to consider: 1. Consumption of B-12 is not necessarily needed as it is produced in the small intestines as part of our symbiotic relationship with gut bacteria. So, for vegetarians and vegans, maintaining a healthy microbiome < http://genome.wustl.edu/projects/detail/human-gut-microbiome/ > is a requirement for adequate B-12. 2. For those who are proponents of meat eating for the benefit of getting your B-12, keep in mind the enormous amounts of antibiotics used in the meat industry. These antibiotics can have a detrimental effect on the meat eaters balance of healthy gut bacteria. 3. I was informed by someone recently that when you rinse and spit on arising in the morning, you "delete" a lot of your vitamins right down the drain. Reading the above seems to confirm the assertion that a rinse and swallow is healthier!1 point -
Critics Silenced Once Again!
JoeMo reacted to GayatfootofCross for a topic
Critics Of Bible Silenced Once Again: Archaeological Discoveries Prove Old Testament To Be Accurate Brave TeamAugust 9, 2015 This article originally appeared here. For many years, the critics of the Old Testament continued to argue that Moses invented the stories found in Genesis. The critics contended that the ancient people of the Old Testament times were too primitive to record documents with precise details. In doing so, these critics basically claimed that there was no verification that the people and cities mentioned in the oldest of Biblical accounts ever really existed. The discovery of the Ebla archive in northern Syria in the 1970′s confirmed that the Biblical records concerning the Patriarchs are spot on. It was during the excavations in northern Syria that the excavating found a large library inside a royal archive room. This library had tablets dating from 2400 -2300 BC. The excavating team discovered almost 15,000 ancient tablets and fragments which when joined together accounted for about 2,500 tablets. Amazingly, these tablets confirmed that personal and location titles in the Biblical Patriarchal accounts are authentic. These tablets are known as the Ebla Tablets. For a long period of time, the critics of the Old Testament used to argue that the name ‘Canaan’ was used wrongly in the early chapters of the Bible. They claimed the name Canaan was never used at that specific time in history. They further accused that the name was inserted in the Old Testament afterwards, while the earliest books of The Holy Bible were not written in the times that are described. However, with the discovery of the tablets from the northern Syria, the word the word “Canaan” does appear, contrary to the claims of the critics. The tablets proved that the term was actually used in ancient Syria during the time in which the Old Testament was written. Additionally, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were also thought to be pure fiction by Bible critics. These cities are also identified in the Ebla tablets, in addition to the city of Haran. Haran is described in Genesis as the city of Abram’s father, Terah. Previous to this discovery, ‘scholars’ suspected the actual presence of the ancient city. In addition to this, countless other archaeological findings confirm the Biblical records to be real and accurate. Some of these findings are listed below: The campaign into Israel by Pharaoh Shishak (1 Kings 14:25-26) is recorded on the walls of the Temple of Amun in Thebes, Egypt. The revolt of Moab against Israel (2 Kings 1:1; 3:4-27) is recorded on the Mesha Inscription. The fall of Samaria (2 Kings 17:3-6, 24; 18:9-11) to Sargon II, king of Assyria, is recorded on his palace walls. The defeat of Ashdod by Sargon II (Isaiah 20:1) is recorded on his palace walls. The campaign of the Assyrian king Sennacherib against Judah (2 Kings 18:13-16) is recorded on the Taylor Prism. The siege of Lachish by Sennacherib (2 Kings 18:14, 17) is recorded on the Lachish reliefs. The assassination of Sennacherib by his own sons (2 Kings 19:37) is recorded in the annals of his son Esarhaddon. The fall of Nineveh as predicted by the prophets Nahum and Zephaniah (2 Kings 2:13-15) is recorded on the Tablet of Nabopolasar. The fall of Jerusalem to Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon (2 Kings 24:10-14) is recorded in the Babylonian Chronicles. The captivity of Jehoiachin, king of Judah, in Babylon (2 Kings 24:15-16) is recorded on the Babylonian Ration Records. The fall of Babylon to the Medes and Persians (Daniel 5:30-31) is recorded on the Cyrus Cylinder. The freeing of captives in Babylon by Cyrus the Great (Ezra 1:1-4; 6:3-4) is recorded on the Cyrus Cylinder. Share if you are proud to be a Jesus follower!1 point -
Are you a Vegetarian?
Deaconess reacted to Outta Here for a topic
Gluten sensitivity and celiac disease really is a huge problem for people who are trying to adhere to a vegetarian diet. Potlucks are the worst! Where do vegetarians (especially vegans) get their B12? I am particularly interested because a diet deficient in B12 can lead to all sorts of problems--dementia and Alzheimer's are of special concern to me.1 point -
Finding Work
phkrause reacted to LifeHiscost for a topic
Jessie-Jess, we will be praying that this promise for you be fulfilled. 28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose....Romans 8 Keep looking up! God is Love! Jesus saves!1 point -
Let's talk about real unity...
Deaconess reacted to Tom Wetmore for a topic
Uniformity is quite the same as unison. Imagine all the great music of the world, your favorite music. What would it be if it could only be sung, performed in unison? By only one instrument, or one part by one voice? The difference to me between uniformity and unity is contrasting the above with unity as harmony in music. Many voices, many instruments, playing/singing different notes, even at different rhythm or timing. The music comes alive in a beauty of harmony. A well tuned and practiced orchestra or choir singing/performing different parts becomes one in perfect unity of harmonious music. That is unity.1 point