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Van Gogh's "Starry Night" done with water marbling... (really cool on full screen view)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/wonder/whats-rarer-than-a-blue-moon-a-strawberry-moon/vi-AAhjndW Kind of cool. Maybe I'll celebrate tonight with some angel food cake and some whipped cream and strawberries!

Back to the topic. By eating of the fruit of the forbidden Tree of the Learning of the Knowledge of Good and Evil Adam and Eve demonstrated that they were not Righteous. The garden represented the Righteous Kingdom of God on earth, and since this Kingdom can contain no one in it that is unrighteous God evicted Adam and Eve from the garden, sending them out into the kingdom of the World where sin already existed in the nations of the earth. God did not show 'grace' to Adam and Eve by letting them stay in the garden in their sin. God did not tell Adam and Eve that their sinning did not matter, that He loved them anyway, and that He would save them IN their sin if they would only demonstrate faith in Him/Them; faith the He would save them by His grace. Instead, God cast both Adam and Eve out of the garden in order to preserve as Holy and separate a location where someday God could place a righteous people that would have the same righteous character as do They (Father, Son, Holy Spirit Mother). God postponed the carrying out of the sentence of death that He placed on them the instant that Adam ate the fruit that Eve handed to Him. Gen 3:11 And He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?" Then something happened that most people miss when reading this passage. Most people think Adam blamed Eve for giving Him the fruit to eat, and in doing this placed the woman in subjugation to man, forever in a secondary position of female to male. This is absolutely NOT what happened. Adam proceeded to blame GOD. Gen 3:12 The man said, "The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate." Adam could have defused the situation by first refusing to eat the fruit, but this did not happen. Then, rather than trying to make excuses he could have simply said to God, "I have no excuse for having disobeyed you, please forgive me." Can you imagine God NOT forgiving Adam? Even in this situation Adam and Eve could have learned Righteousness, which proves they were not righteous before this event took place. But Adam didn't say this, so God had to make an adjustment to His promise to execute both Adam and Eve for their sin of disobedience. Why? The nations of the earth were already completely under Satan's rule (Isa. 14:12). So God had created a sinless being (Adam) and placed him in a 'safe' location (the garden) in which God would teach him righteousness, so that Adam could go out into the world and teach the truth about God to the people of the nations that had fallen under the spell of this being of light, Lucifer, who claimed to be the 'creator' of the earth and all that was in it, including the nations. The nations believed this because Satan was very persuasive. God wanted to train Adam (with Eve) to go into the world and tell the nations that this being that claimed to be god was not the God of Creation, but was an imposter. Yet Satan derailed that process by intercepting Adam and Eve at the Tree, and through guile and deception convinced them that if they did in fact disobey God that God would not kill them. It is interesting that God allowed Satan access to the garden in the first place. Why would God feel that HE had to do this? Satan had made the accusation against God in the court in Heaven that God was unfair in His dealings with His created beings. Lucifer said (inferred from Job and Isaiah) that God ruled using the fear of the punishment of death for disobedience, and that the created beings in the universe obeyed God from fear not from Love. This accusation is still being made today. Satan demanded access to the garden so that he could have access to these two newly created humans, in order to show them his idea of what the truth in the universe actually looked like. If God had denied this demand the that would have proved Satan's point. THIS is why God told Adam and Eve to not go near the Tree of the Learning of the Knowledge of Good and Evil; to protect them from Satan UNTIL they had learned enough about God to understand His true nature, and learn to be righteous IN FACT, which is the only true protection anyone has against Satan. Adam and Eve were deceived, and as such failed to learn righteousness while they were still in the garden. So God provided a way for them to be able to STILL learn righteousness, just not in the garden where they would have been under the direct protection and instruction of their Creator. The garden was the first iteration of the Kingdom of Heaven on earth; a place made separate, Holy, in the world but not OF the world. The Kingdom of the Heavens is reserved for people that have demonstrated righteousness by obedience to the Commands of God. That is why NO ONE that is NOT RIGHTEOUS in fact will ever be able to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. (To be continued)

Yep!! Did you guess or did you actually know?? D. Tupac Shakur Although he had his share of legal troubles ranging from sexual assault to weapons charges, Tupac Shakur was never charged with murder in his lifetime. Source: various web sites.

We try.

No one would EVER try to say that Samuel, Elisha, Elijah or Jeremiah were not in leadership positions. Yet Deborah couldn't be because she was a woman? She was a prophetess just the same as the men.

Yes, but why take it if you aren't going to use it? Because that's how colleges make money. They sell info.... At the end of the day "cramming, memorizing, regurgitating, and forgetting" just doesn't make it....

Shrimp are the cockroaches of the ocean. God made them to CLEAN dirty water. Would you eat something from a sewage treatment plant?

I think we all know that prophecy can be spoken long before it actually comes to pass.

We are close to agreement in that we both understand that righteousness is important. In your model, however, righteousness has no bearing at all on salvation, because you believe that our deeds don't count toward salvation. It is my understanding that what Jesus taught in the Gospel of the Kingdom is that in order to qualify for the penalty payment to apply to you you must go through the process of Sanctification, which is to put the words of truth that Jesus brought from the Father in heaven to earth into PRACTICE, and replace all lies in your life with only truth. Rev. 12:17 confirms this, because those that are born of the Woman of Chapter 12 (the Holy Spirit) are brothers and sisters of Jesus Christ and demonstrate this by 'keeping the Commandments of God, and holding to the testimony of Jesus'. That testimony IS NOT the testimony of anyone other that Jesus Christ Himself, that He gave to His own eyewitness disciples. Jesus guaranteed His words to His own disciples in John 17:20, and John 14:26. Jesus knew that people would come along and claim to be 'of Christ', and teach things that are NOT what Jesus taught while He was on earth 'in the flesh'. 2Jn 1:6 And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, that you should walk in it. 2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. 2Jn 1:8 Watch yourselves, that you do not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward. 2Jn 1:9 Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. 2Jn 1:10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting; 2Jn 1:11 for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds

Happy Father's Day to all of the great men on this forum!!

If things like pork and shellfish are not "food", what food was Jesus declaring clean? It is of no consequence to declare something clean that had previously been declared clean.

As my cared for wife and myself exited a well known shopping mall, we passed a pair of young women whereby my wife felt she needed to share the good news she had experienced while busy inside. She loudly exclaimed, "I had a good bowel movement!", in which one of the young women responded, "That's nice!". Ahhh, the vicissitudes of elderly life. God is Love!~Jesus saves!

In the NLT, Mike, that verse says: Then he said to the woman, "I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy,and in pain you will give birth.And you will desire to control your husband,but he will rule over you." Boy, isn't that the truth these days.

if you are referring to Genesis 3:16 then tell that to Moses he wrote it.

no i thought is was quite appropriate thank you. Hits the nail right on the head.

i accidentally had the cap lock on. regarding the issue. the actions of the conference in ordaining females to leadership roles over congregations against the wishes of the GC and the people is nothing short of rebellion. These people are cultured by the feminist movement which originated in spiritualism. Just because babylonian churches who do not believe that Adam and Eve existed desire to ordain women to leadership these apostates in our churches want to do it. This lot are wolves in sheep clothing and apostates. where will it end? Seems that this thing has happened before. Israel had to have a king because the idolatrous nations around them did. So we have to follow babylon in everything also.

Two things: 1) Please do not use all caps when writing. It's considered to be poor internet etiquette. 2) Your statement was snide, and utterly out of place, no matter what your opinion is of women's ordination.

LIKE A PACK OF WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.