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I was loaned a set of DVDs at church and found them to be quite interesting. Checking them out on Youtube, I found all of them. So, I decided to share the links here. Topics included a discussion of the Omega apostasy, spiritual formation, The One Project, and a number of other topics considered to be related. The Emerging Church Controversy within Adventism - Steve Wohlberg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbjaYIukAt8 Omega Emerging: A Church In Change - Janet Neumann https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NJ1crAJ5e4 Omega Emerging Power of the Everlasting Gospel Dr Allen Davis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v5kGQpA_fE Omega Emerging: Adventism's Emergence - Alexa Hernandez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6sbCI8Y2QM Omega Emerging: When All Else Fails - David Fiedler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jP-DzT4-UM Omega Emerging: The New Pagan Revival - Gerry Wagoner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZBZO8N8cuM Omega Emerging: Town Hall Panel - all speakers, plus Pastor Stephen Bohr and Dustin Butler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Iw8afZYV0

Dear Brethren, As we begin a new emphasis on the study of Bible prophecies of Daniel and Revelation in evangelistic efforts, I must appeal once again that sound methods of interpretation be used. For too long we have been content to use methods of interpretation that were not consistent, contrary to the principles of interpretation we profess to believe in. In the interpretation of Bible prophecy, we must ever keep in mind the strict admonition of 2 Peter 1:20, 21: “knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” (NKJV) In order to avoid a private interpretation, we must do three reasonable things. First, all prophetic symbols must be defined by Scripture alone. We can do this, because the prophets “spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” One Divine Mind is in evidence over all. An example of the way prophetic symbols are defined in Scripture is seen in Revelation 17:15: “Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.” (NIV) One example of wrong interpretations we have made, is supposing that the "smoke" mentioned during the fifth trumpet refers to gunsmoke from Moslem cavalry. But throughout all the Bible, smoke and the synonym cloud always symbolize manifestation of supernatural power, with context indicating whether it is divine or satanic. This has lead us to miss completely what the prophecy is really all about. It has nothing to do with Moslems! Second, the prophecies must be applied to history, during the time periods context indicates to us that they apply. Then we look for the obvious, straightforward, most logical parallels. This is seen in the prophecies of Daniel (see for example Daniel 8:20-26, where the angel names the empires in historical sequence that correspond to the symbols). I must especially note where this traditionally has not been followed in our evangelistic campaigns. In Revelation chapter five, the context provably is the Judgment. An investigation is made into who is worthy to open the book. And because finally the Lamb was found to be worthy, mankind is saved! In both prophecies we encounter this distinctive formulation: "...and the number of them [angels] was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands." (Revelation 5:11.) Compare Daniel 7:10: "thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the Judgment was set, and the books were opened." Modern translations render this "myriads upon myriads," or "myriads of myriads," instead of "ten thousand times ten thousand." But still, these similar formulations are only found in Revelation 5:11 and in Daniel 7:10. There are several other parallels between Revelation chapter 5 and the Judgment explicitly set forth in Daniel 7. This indicates to us when the prophecies of the seven seals must be applied by comparison to history. In other words, since the seals are opened after the Judgment has begun, any application of the prophecy of the seven seals that begins before 1844 is not Biblical. When applied to history AFTER 1844, the prophecies apply perfectly. Had we always done this, we could have predicted the World Wars far in advance. We could have predicted the fall of the command economy of the Soviet Union far in advance. We have missed a great evangelistic opportunity, had we taught these prophecies interpreted by sound Biblical methods, instead of teaching the traditional but flawed interpretations we have borrowed from what Protestants have taught for over 500 years. I also must conclude that context clearly indicates that the prophecies of the seven trumpets must be applied after the beginning of final events during the time of the end. The seven angels being given trumpets before the vignette of the angel with the censer but not sounding them until afterwards, indicates they sound during the closing up of Christ’s ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Interpreted this way, the events foretold exactly correspond to the sequence of events Ellen G. White gave. The first trumpet is the beginning of the time of trouble. The second trumpet is the re-immersion of the Papacy into the political affairs of Europe. The third trumpet is the rise of a similar church-state entity in the Americas involving Protestants. The fourth trumpet describes the Shaking in our church. The fifth trumpet describes spiritualism coming into the fallen churches that reject the light. The sixth trumpet describes the way that Satan leads the fallen churches into a final all-out war against the faithful. These things are soon to become of utmost importance to us all. I discuss these things in detail in my book, Genuine New Light From Revelation and Daniel, available as an e-book from Amazon. Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MY3I88W Third, of course, we must be careful in understanding whether something is literal narrative, or symbolic. Simple literary analysis usually is a reasonable guide. We should note if an image or statement is specifically defined as symbolic or is used frequently as a prophetic symbol or metaphor in other places in the Bible. We should not have to guess about this. We can look it up. I mention this last, because Adventists presently do not seem to have much problem with this, though expositors from other Christian groups do. Ronald R. Lambert

Ron lambert makes three (3) points with which I am in solid agreement with him: * We must use sound methods to interpret and to understand the Biblical prophecies. * We have not always done so. * Our evangelists have not always done so. Once he goes beyond the above points I will leave it to you to decide. I am not going to get into those aspects of his post at this point in time. But, I applaud him for making the above three (3) points which I believe are critical.

You have been cautioned by the great cautioner!