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JoeMo, You sound like me. Rely on Christ's keeping power. When we arrive at the time when He is not present to make atonement for us, His power to keep us from sinning is essential.

It is my opinion that all things reproduce "after their kind". I believe that human kind is a different kind from spirit kind. I personally do not believe that spirit beings can produce offspring with human beings. I do believe that spirit beings can appear in human form.

JoMo: In light of the above statement you have made in response to a previous post by Stinsonmarri I have reviewed her post and your response. I am confused as to exactly what Stinsonmarri said in her post. It looks to me like she may have made a type of a typo that I sometimes make in which I fail state my thinking in a clear manner. In brief, the manner in which Stinsonmarri made her statement leaves me unsure as to exactly what she believes on the point on which you comment. IOW, I am not certain that your statement of disagreement is actually her position. Perhaps it is. Perhaps it is not, as I do not fully understand her comment.

Amen, Marri! This part I must disagree with. I am absolutely positive that it is the merit of Jesus Christ alone - none of my own - that will gain me eternal life. Our robes are washed white by the blood of the Lamb. We overcome by the blood of the Lamb. Even if I overcame every known sin (which I haven't), my own righteousness would look like filthy rags to my God. It is only when the Father sees the perfect righteousness of Christ covering my filthy rags that I will be deemed worthy of the undeserved gift of eternal life in the Kingdom. I do agree that - after we have been changed at the Second Coming - we will probably have to stand on our own righteousness. But we will no longer have a genetic inclination towards sin and rebellion, like we have now.

HCH: It truly grieves me how disrespectful you write. Again, I want to make it very clear that Pastor Matthew and I see things differently. But when I write to him, I tried to be respectful. First he is the moderator, secondly, I respect his position and his degree. I feel that he truly believes and is sincere in his belief. We do understand each other even in our disagreement. I will not say I am happy with some of our disagreement, but that does not give me the right to disrespect him. What he wrote is this: NOTE: There is no time, in this human life, prior to the 2nd Advent when any human can stand on their own merit outside of the salvation provided by Christ. Period. End of discussion. All of the quotes you provided by EGW actually states the same thing. The saints of THE MOST will stand on their own merits. My understanding of this is we have the power of choice which is outside the salvation provide by YAHSHUA. We must choose to be saved and then salvation is free and then given to us by our minds changing. Each every one of us has to choose to let this mind be in each one of us which in YAHSHUA through THE HOLY SPIRIT who will seal us. Just like the Adam's on their own merit chose to sin, we must choose to accept the truth! We must choose to become a living sacrifice ourselves. You do not understand that we have power and that power is choice! We are not robots and YAHSHUA automatically covers us, we must make the decision to be cover. Your problem is when someone disagrees with you then your pride takes over. You then say some unkind words: "You continue to spin rubbish that is contrary to the points that I am making though they are the very waymarks that are so clear in the Bible and Spirit of prophecy." To be honest, who are you or anyone to say what someone comment is rubbish. Even though I do not agree with you, I try to respect you. But you do not do the same, either your way or no way. You are even allowed a part of this forum site to voice your views. Yet, you do not show humbleness and kindness for the Moderator who is to supervise YOUR forum comments. Please stop! Let's us all pray and agree with love and kindness, most of all humbleness through THE POWER of THE HOLY SPIRIT to disagree! Thank You with Love and Blessings!

5 Things You Didn't Know About The Miss America Pageant On July 23, 1984, Vanessa Williams resigned from her post as Miss America after Penthouse magazine said it would publish nude photos of the beauty queen. Here are 5 things you didn't know about the Miss America pageant... The Pageant Has Apologized to Vanessa Williams. While Vanessa Williams was initially vilified after she resigned from her post as Miss America, she managed to rebound into a successful and long-lasting acting and singing career. In 2015, pageant organizers asked her to return to the Miss America stage as a judge -- which she did, graciously -- but there was a surprise in store. The CEO of the pageant, Sam Haskell, publicly addressed Williams' resignation and apologized to her and her mother in front of the audience and live on TV. While the apology was well-received overall, Suzette Charles, the woman who gained the 1984 Miss America title after Williams resigned, noted that she thought the apology was more about ratings. However, Charles was clear about her support for Williams, complimenting her talent and her ability to build such a successful career. The First Miss America Was a Teenager. When the pageant first started, it wasn't called Miss America -- the winner was "The Most Beautiful Bathing Girl in America." The first winner was a 16-year-old named Margaret Gorman, and she wasn't called Miss America until the next contest. The award at the first pageant wasn't a scholarship or sponsorships like you see today; Gorman got a trophy called a Golden Mermaid. A Promotional Dispute Led to the Creation of a Rival Pageant. When the title of Miss America 1951 went to Yolanda Betbeze, organizers expected her to help promote a swimwear brand that helped sponsor the contest. However, Betbeze protested and refused, saying she was not a model and that she was a singer. The swimwear brand, Catalina, became unhappy (understandably) with the Miss America pageant and broke away to create the Miss USA pageant, which still runs annually. Pageant Officials Tried to Hide the Fact That Bess Meyerson Was Jewish. Bess Myerson won the Miss America title in 1945. She was the first -- and so far the only -- Jewish winner. At the time, the country was just finding out about what had really happened in the concentration camps run by the Nazis, so Myerson's win seemed like an appropriate rebuke of the Nazis' treatment of Jews. However, pageant organizers initially tried to get Myerson to hide the fact that she was Jewish, such as through changing her name. Myerson didn't play along and insisted that she compete under her own name, stating that if she won, she wanted everyone in her apartment building to know whose daughter it was who won the title. Unfortunately, Myerson's win was muted by an unwillingness on some sponsors' parts to work with her. She went on to become a lecturer and consumer rights advocate who created some of the most intense consumer rights reforms in the country. Early Miss America Pageants Allowed Larger Cities Like Chicago to Have Their Own Contestants. In the first couple of decades of the pageant, it wasn't unusual to see contestants from large cities like Chicago and New York competing as representatives from those cities, and not the states. So you would see both Miss Chicago and Miss Illinois. The pageant eliminated these positions along with the Miss Washington D.C. position, although Miss D.C. was added back later on.

NOTE: There is no time, in this human life, prior to the 2nd Advent when any human can stand on their own merit outside of the salvation provided by Christ. Period. End of discussion.