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  1. BlessedMan

    Objects in the Mirror May Be Closer Than They Appear

    Your Mother sounds like a wise woman...The world needs more delightful people who will quote their Mothers. IMO ?
    2 points
  2. B/W Photodude

    Objects in the Mirror May Be Closer Than They Appear

    But I have not claimed to be and have told no one to not quote EGW. Oh yeah! I think you missed something I left for you. https://adventistan.com/forums/topic/76572-special-for-stinsonmarri/?tab=comments#comment-801027
    1 point
  3. Gregory Matthews

    AC Abortion Statement

    They are quite similar. The main issue is that the one (the first) was issued by a study group and therefore has little authority. A second issue is that one (the first) deals more with the reality we pastors face in our congregations. The first is more pastoral in nature than the second. The second is more a Biblical statement. The second generally does not deal with clinical realities. The second allows for situations to occur where a natural fetal death occured without any human intervention and were labeled as an abortion. Imagine a woman experiencing grief over her fetal death to be considered as having an abortion and who could only defend herself by sharing intimate details of her clinical care and condition with others. NOTE: I speak from experience as I have had to deal with women in these situations.
    1 point
  4. BlessedMan

    Climate Change: Is It Real?

    Could it be that "climate change" or "climate EMERGENCY" is going to be the vehicle for globalization and compelling of the conscience for "the common good," and that in the very near future there will be demands to "keep Sunday" for the "common good?"
    1 point
  5. phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Lesser Know Facts About FDR On November 7, 1944, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected to an unprecedented fourth term in office. Here are 5 lesser know facts you didn't know about the only president to have served more than two terms... FDR's Nickname Was The Sphinx While FDR is already on-point in terms of a nickname, journalists stepped up their game in the late 1930s and branded him The Sphinx since he refused to say whether he'd run for a third term in 1940. As a result, an eight-foot paper-mache sculpture of FDR as The Sphinx was made in 1939 and was the centerpiece for the White House Press Correspondents Dinner. (And it still exists!) FDR Was The First Sitting President to Fly in a Plane At a time when air travel was much more dangerous, Roosevelt flew to Chicago in 1932 to accept the Democratic nomination for president. He then became the first sitting president to travel by airplane during his time in office. Crossing the Atlantic by air, Roosevelt flew in a Boeing 314 Flying Boat dubbed the Dixie Clipper to a World War II strategy meeting with Winston Churchill at Casablanca in North Africa. He Married His Distant Cousin Much has been documented about FDR's admiration for his distant cousin, Theodore. But few people realize that Eleanor was actually also a family member (albeit a distant one). Anna Eleanor Roosevelt was FDR's fifth cousin once removed and the niece of then-President Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy actually walked Eleanor down the aisle on her wedding day, March 17, 1905, because Eleanor's father had passed away. Sadly, Great Uncle Teddy wouldn't live long enough to see FDR rise to the presidency—he died in 1919. Secret Service Agents Ruined Photos of FDR in a Wheelchair Most people know that FDR contracted polio in 1921 and spent most of his adult life relying on a wheelchair. Roosevelt was notoriously private about his ailment, choosing to have most public appearances showing him sitting in an open chair or standing behind a podium. Roosevelt never explicitly denied that he’d lost the use of his legs, but he sure did his damnedest to keep people—especially of the camera from seeing him wheel around. Few photos depict FDR in a wheelchair and for good reason—media figures who tried found themselves getting their cameras confiscated or film ripped out as a result. He was the First President to Make a Woman Part of His Cabinet It's something you can say about FDR: he didn't completely buy into gender roles. The late president was actually the first to name a woman to his cabinet: having appointed Frances Perkins as the Industrial Commissioner of the State of New York in 1929, he offered her the role of Secretary of Labor in 1932. She stepped down in 1945, resigning after Roosevelt's death in 1945.
    1 point
  6. B/W Photodude

    Objects in the Mirror May Be Closer Than They Appear

    Nevertheless, the fact remains that you introduced your political agenda into a thread that had nothing to do with the current leaders of the nation.
    1 point
  7. B/W Photodude

    Objects in the Mirror May Be Closer Than They Appear

    What one may think to be out of context may be perfectly clearly in context for another. You are not the gatekeeper for how the writings of EGW get used.
    1 point
  8. Kevin H

    Year/Day Principle

    I have to admit I liked this article better than I thought I would. However there are a three points that were missed and need to be considered I will make a posting here of all three to make it easier to discuss and read: First: the phrase in Daniel 8:14 evenings-morning in trying to make it the two sacrifices of the day require (as the author or Daniel was accused of in a few liberal commentaries I read) the author of Daniel to be dyslexic. In the Bible consistently (unless the author of Daniel was dyslexic) is "morning and evening" and the evening-morning cycle is the daily cycle. Second: Lets look at history. Back when these theories about what Daniel 8:14 means, people did not know about Belshazzar. Many believed that he was a fictional character made up by the author. And people who believed in a historical Belshazzar did not know his dates and did not know when his third year was. But in the 20th century he was discovered to be real and the dates of his reign. So let's simply add 1150 literal days and 2300 literal days to the third year of Belshazzar. Granted we don't know what day the vision came on but we can look at the events in the years we come to If we add 1150 days we are a little past the middle of his reign and we find business as usual. However if we add 2300 literal days, the events that year included Medio-Persia's seize on Babylon, Belshazzar's feast and the fall of Babylon and the early days of the Medio-Persia kingdom. Deuteronomy saw two possible futures for the Hebrew, and pre-exile books added more details to these two plans. One was if they were faithful in the land they would be blessed, nations would come to find out why they were blessed, learn about their God and this would be how the gospel was spread. If they were not faithful God would give them curses to encourage them to change. If nothing else worked they were to exile. In exile they were to tell their neighbors about their unfaithfulness and God's faithfulness and through this the gospel would have been spread and the exile end in a second great exodus lead by the messiah and lead to the setting up of his kingdom. Deuteronomy 4 actually calls the exile "The last days". I call these land theology and exile theology. And may I recommend the article in the SDA Bible Commentary "The Role of Israel in Bible Prophecy" in the volume with the prophetic books like Isaiah and Jeremiah. Daniel 1-7 can be understood to fit with this view of eschatology. Daniel 8 still sees it as possible, but that time was running out. Daniel 9-12 gives a new plan where the Jews returned to the land but in a lackluster return, not the second great exodus lead by the messiah. And another 70 weeks of years of land theology. (Interesting, from David to the end of the exile was 70 weeks of years). And these chapters tell what need to be done upon the return and what could have happened had Jesus been accepted. Now the dates in Daniel 12 are sanctuary dates They, as well as the time, times and dividing of times are literal days in the 70 weeks of years. When we try to make the day-year principle apply to them we are doubling up the day-year principle. . This will lead into the third point, but evening-morning is a cyclic term, the days in Daniel 12 are indeed days. There is a very important distinction. In Ezekiel 38 and 39, as we put the pieces together we end up with a 2310 day prophecy. Taking for the 10 days from the new year to Yom Kippur, we have another 2300 day prophecy. Ezekiel's application is what could have happened had Jesus been accepted. We can say an application to what could have been the last 2300 days of the 70 weeks of years. The third issue is that the ancient world believed in cyclic thought. While for the above post I'd recommend "the Role of Israel in Old Testament Prophecy" for this post I want to recommend "Before Philosophy" 1946 University of Chicago Press, by Henri Frankfort and others. This is a crucial book to understand the 2300 evenings-mornings, and that most of our discussion on the topic is so ignorant about this book. (For the life of me I do not understand why in the world our church does not get the rights to publish that book and re-print it) Reis actually touched upon it in his article, but passed off too soon and does not appear to see the importance of what he said. A newer book (and by and Adventist) that does point out this information is "Hebrew for Theologians" by Jacques B. Doukhan. While the 1290 days, and the days in Daniel 12 are literal days out of the already year-day'd 70 weeks, the phrase in Daniel 8:14 evenings-mornings are cyclic phrases and gives us more freedom in it's application. As I mentioned above the exegesis of the text was the last 2300 days until the end of Babylon. And that Ezekiel gave a 2310 day prophecy that we can apply to what would have been the last 2310 days of the 70 weeks, or just after the 70 weeks. In before Philosophy we learn that a day for an Egyptian was the cycle of the sun in the sky and the cycle of the Nile flooding. One happened every 24 hours and the other every year. Thus there was an year-day interchangeability. Egypt and others in the ancient middle east believed in year-day applications. In Leviticus 23 and scattered in Deuteronomy we find the Hebrew cycles for a week. To a Hebrew a week was 6 days and the Sabbath. 6 months and either Passover or Yom Kippur, 6 years and the Sabbatical year and in Leviticus but not Deuteronomy, 6 Sabbatical years and the Jubilee. Thus Daniel 8:14 would have been understood by Daniel and his audience as 2300 days, 2300 months, 2300 full years (Daniel was a Deuteronomist, otherwise we would also say 2300 sabbatical years). So the 2300 years is ONE of the possible ways to apply the text. But it is NOT the ONLY way to apply the text. God was not twiddling his thumbs waiting for 1844. Now we have two independent sources: the Samaritan and the Elephantine papyri both confirm that the decree of Ezra 7 was to start on Yom Kippur 538 BC. When William Miller lived people were lucky to get a Biblical event in the same century as they actually happened. So for Miller to get the right year is amazing. In the book of John, John the Baptist says "Behold the lamb of God who scapegoats the sins of the world" which indicates that John saw Jesus starting his ministry on Yom Kippur at the fulfillment of time. John also has 7 signs that deal with 7 temple feasts. All of these have the elements (but not the same order) of Jesus saying (either publicly or in a discussion) something that actually deals with an aspect of the feast, a problem based on the aspect of the feast Jesus dealt with, an "I am" saying that deals with both the issues of the feast and the problem, and the sign (or miracle) that tie these all together. There are 3 on 3 different Passover years, three on the feast of tabernacles, pictured as the same year, but could have been over 2 or 3 years and telescoped together because they were all in Jerusalem. and one for Hanukkah (Interestingly it was the New Testament that made Hanukkah a Biblical feast. And the Hanukkah "I AM" is "I am the resurrection and the life" and the raising of Lazarus. an amazing Christmas sermon for those who have an empty spot in their hearts do to the loss of a loved one). But back to the topic. John has Jesus start his ministry on Yom Kipppur and about a 3 1/2 year ministry. (there is sitll some room for a year before and after but still the middle of the week.) But enough evidence for John to possibly agree with our interpretation. Also. if we accept the high date of the exodus, Yom Kippur 1844 ended a sabbatical year and started a Jubilee and the Sabbatical years and Jubilees were the ending of one cycle and the start of new cycles. Ancient cycles also point out that events on heaven and earth reflect each other. On earth the Rosetta stone had recently been translated opening the door to understanding ancient languages. And Edward Robinson had in the late 1830s done the very first serious study of Biblical Geography and his book had just been published in the early 1840s. This opened up the world to serious study in Biblical geography and opened the door to Biblical Archaeology. 1844 started a new cycle, the age of exegesis. A time where we could investigate the Bible as never before. Prior to this time people could read the words of the Bible but use their imagination and tradition to interpret what they mean. But the 1840s opened the door to have better understandings of what the words mean and how they are applied and the historical, geographic and cultural context. And the reflection in Heaven, the angels and beings on the unfallen worlds can review the lives of those who claimed to have accepted God in their lives. This review points out whether the person actually did or not, and if so just what difference did God make in their life. This helps them understand better what God does with them and understand better their own salvation and that way they love God even better.
    1 point
  9. stinsonmarri

    Year/Day Principle

    Here we go with hermeneutical “rule," and exegesis Greek thought accepted into modern Christian philosophy. That is why we are getting away from all our beliefs in truth and don't understand the ones that needed to be corrected. When we don't realize that Hellenization is what brought down IsraEL and lead to the false religion called Judaism. Today were are moving away from the pillars of faith to Greek thought because we choose to accept the same Protestant teaching and views of THEOLOGY and not YAHWEH! I choose to accept the Hebrew understanding that YAHWEH gave and not human beings traditions and beliefs! Blessings!
    1 point
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