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  1. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    ? He is able Heb 7:25 Wherefore ? he is able ? also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
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  2. stinsonmarri

    Two Second Comings?

    Joe: Here the thing and why I apologize to you! Because it is not you but the person who provided the story which I say is false base on his own writings. If you do not believe in a worldwide flood and equate the Bible story with the Babylonians and the Assyrians; then showed proof that the word used is not grammatically correct. To me that just do not make sense. With you, you evade the truth of what the angels look like. You are intelligent and that should be something you should consider. I don't believe you have thought about their appearance and how they are made, correct? One note both the Assyrians and the Babylonian provided winged creatures described clearly in Ezekiel as one of their faces. They'd remember with the help of Satan a certain part of his feature and they did worship these drawings as their deity. So, I just want you to explain that and YAHSHUA said that angels do not marry in Heaven. If they don't marry would they have sex organs? What would be the purpose? Satan and his angels were in Heaven and they were made before they sin. So, are you telling me that poof here comes the sex organs after they sin? All I want you to do is to explain this to me. That is it! Again, I have problem with him. Blessings!
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  3. phkrause

    Trivia

    5 Things You Probably Didn't Know About The YMCA On Dec 29, 1851, the first American Young Men's Christian Association was organized in Boston. Here are 5 facts you probably didn’t know about the history of the YMCA... The Early YMCA Objected to Exercise Programs The early YMCA was geared toward improving a young man’s spiritual condition through holding Bible classes and prayer meetings and formulating ways to improve society. Several of the people associated with the YMCA believed because it was theologically inclined that exercise programs should not become a part of it. This attitude continued until the late 1800s when exercise programs were included to teach the importance of exercise, good health, and sportsmanship. Thank a YMCA Instructor for the Invention of Basketball James Naismith was a Canadian-born instructor at the International Training College of the YMCA in Springfield, Massachusetts, when he invented a game that would take the country by storm. That winter in 1891, he invented the game of basketball, in which the nine players on each team used a soccer ball and hoops made of peach baskets. Unfortunately, that first game caused a free-for-all in the gym with one boy being knocked unconscious, one suffering a dislocated shoulder, and another getting a black eye, so the rules had to be changed. Another YMCA Teacher Invented Volleyball William G. Morgan met James Naismith while he was attending college in Springfield, Massachusetts, and decided to become an instructor of physical education at the YMCA. He invented a game that he called "Mintonette" for older members who needed an exercise game less strenuous than basketball to play. It was later renamed “Volleyball” because of the way the ball was volleyed back and forth between the players. The First Father’s Day Celebration Was Held at a YMCA Sonora Louise Smart Dodd of Spokane, Washington pitched the idea of having a special day to honor dads everywhere at a regional YMCA meeting. The organization was enthusiastic about her idea, and the first celebration of Father’s Day was held on June 19, 1910. Father’s Day became observed nationally in 1972 on the third Sunday in June. The YMCA Sued The Village People for Their Hit Song “Y.M.C.A.” is one of the most iconic disco tracks ever created, thanks to the disco group Village People. It turns out that the Young Men's Christian Association, for whom the song is named, wasn't too thrilled about being at the center of what arguably began as a gay disco anthem and sued the disco group for copyright infringement (the case was eventually dropped).
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  4. stinsonmarri

    Two Second Comings?

    Joe: Also, everyone else I do owe Joe an apology. After going back over Dr. Heiser's writing I feel he had lead me and other to a false conclusion. He does believe in some type of angels mix with human beings. I also, now understand and totally agree with Blessed man. Dr. Heiser had this person to believe just like I did that he did not believe in this myth. In Genesis, chapter six, the account of Noah and the flood includes a Hebrew word that is erroneously translated as “giant.” Strong’s Greek dictionary shows that the word actually means “properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant.” “Feller” is an older language word derived from the word “fell,” which is defined: “Cruel; barbarous; inhuman,” according to Webster’s 1828 dictionary. Mike Heiser’s web sites and blogs are worthy of time spent reading and following the blog comments as he interacts with visitors, telling in a very authoritative yet gentle manner the truth as found in the ancients scripts. One question I have not yet found an answer to is this: The Nephilim would have been destroyed in the flood, so where did the other giants come from in the rest of the Old Testament? It would seem, from Dr. Heiser’s writings that the Nephilim would not have been anything other than very tall men--possibly not much taller than some of our tall men today. But from the descriptions of other giants in post-flood accounts, they were much larger. As can be seen, the true definition of the Hebrew word “nephı̂yl nephil” is far from what many are saying in these days, and especially as the end times progress, with more and more evil manifesting everywhere. Countless numbers of people, even respected ministers, are promoting a doctrine that says the Nephilim are “fallen angels,” and that they co-habit with human females to produce evil offspring. There are wildly unusual tales of aliens, all because of the error in translation from the ancient languages, as can be seen in the above PDF from Dr. Michael Heiser’s web site. The man of flesh is fully capable of being evil on his own, without some fallen angel ‘fathering’ him. We need only remember the words God spoke to Noah: "My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh." (Gen. 6:3) And then, as Paul told Timothy, “Yea, and all that would live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.” (2 Timothy 3:12-13 RV). Yes, Satan sends his demons to deceive those especially that are attempting to be “godly” in their own strength, not realizing they are still entrenched in self and flesh. They are ripe for deception, and can quickly become the “deceiving and being deceived.” They are very dangerous, and will lead many astray, while, at the same time, persecuting those who truly walk in Truth. Jezebel in particular is very active as the Second Coming draws nearer. As we see “evil flesh” increasing in number around the world, we must remember Jesus’ words. He said that the time of His Coming would be as in the days of Noah, with everyone carrying on with life as usual, seemingly complacent, even in the midst of what is coming upon them. We must also remember that in Noah’s day “God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” (Gen. 6:5). And so it is today. Of the above two described types of “evil,” the most dangerous one is the “religious” one who is deceived and deceiving others--the reason being that the soul is at risk, while those who are “only evil continually” can destroy only the body of a true and faithful follower of Jesus Christ. The following are the Hebrew words that were translated “giant,” including all the verses in which the words appeared. Both Strong’s and Brown-Driver-Briggs’ dictionaries have mistakenly shown the root word as “nâphal.” (See Dr. Heiser’s PDF on “nephilim”). 3 First, we have the definitions as they appear in the Hebrew dictionaries, and then the quoted passages following each definition shown at the beginning of the quotes. 1. Hebrew #5303 נפל נפיל nephı̂yl nephil (nef-eel', nef-eel') Strong’s Definition: “properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant” Translated: “giant” Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Definition: 1) giants, the Nephilim 2. Hebrew #7497 רפה / רפא râphâ'râphâh (raw-faw', raw-faw') Strong’s Definition: “a giant” Translated: “giant, Rapha, Rephaim (-s)” Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Definition: 1) giants, Rephaim 1a) old tribe of giants Part of Speech: noun proper, of tribe, gentilic 1. Hebrew #5303 נפל נפיל nephı̂yl nephil (nef-eel', nef-eel') Strong’s Definition: “properly, a feller, that is, a bully or tyrant” Translated: “giant” 4 - The word “giants” was used by the KJV translators in these two verses. Other versions use the word “nephilim” in translation. Genesis 6:4: “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” (KJV) Note: The above verse has led to a lot of speculation and resulting strange doctrines, with varying beliefs as to who the “sons of God” and “daughters of men” actually were. Numbers 13:33: “And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.” Note: It would almost appear that the translators inserted the wrong Hebrew word in the above verse, rather than the one in this next definition. (Just a thought). 2. Hebrew #7497 רפה / רפא râphâ râphâh raw-faw', raw-faw' Strong’s Definition: “a giant” Translated: “giant, Rapha, Rephaim (-s)” Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Definition: 1) giants, Rephaim 1a) old tribe of giants Part of Speech: noun proper, of tribe, gentilic - The following quotes contain the word “giant(-s).” 2 Samuel 21:16, 18, 20, 22: “And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David. . . . And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant. . . . And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant. . . . These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.” 1 Chronicles 20:4, 6, 8: “And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued. . . . And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant. . . . These were born unto the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.” Deuteronomy 2:11, 20: “Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims. (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;” Deuteronomy 3:11, 13: “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man. And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.” Note: A cubit = 17-22 inches. Using the average cubit length of 20, and multiply by 9 cubits, we arrive at a length of 15 feet for the bed of the giant. Using the same method of calculation, it was more than 6 feet wide! Joshua 12:4: “And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,” Joshua 13:12: “All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.” Joshua 15:8: “And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:” Joshua 17:15: “And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee.” Joshua 18:16: “And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,” The word “rephaim(s)” is used in the following passages. 2 Samuel 5:18, 22: “The Philistines also came and spread themselves in the valley of Rephaim. . . . And the Philistines came up yet again, and spread themselves in the valley of Rephaim.” 2 Samuel 23:13: “And three of the thirty chief went down, and came to David in the harvest time unto the cave of Adullam: and the troop of the Philistines pitched in the valley of Rephaim.” 1 Chronicles 11:15: “Now three of the thirty captains went down to the rock to David, into the cave of Adullam; and the host of the Philistines encamped in the valley of Rephaim.” 1 Chronicles 14:9: “And the Philistines came and spread themselves in the valley of Rephaim.” Isaiah 17:5: “And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.” Genesis 14:5: “And in the fourteenth year came Chedorlaomer, and the kings that were with him, and smote the Rephaims in Ashteroth Karnaim, and the Zuzims in Ham, and the Emims in Shaveh Kiriathaim,” Genesis 15:(18-19&)20 (&21): “In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.” Compilation and commentary by Stella Paterson; January 2013 (Amended February 2, 2013) I read only part, but now I have read the whole thing and I cannot believe that this amendment came to the same conclusion that I did. So what I wrote earlier, I did on my own except the original quotes. I went online to see if their were other scholars that might have a problem with the word like I have. I knew Dr. Heiser was very prominent in the Hebrew language and known in another publication I have, The Biblical Archealogy Magazine and Library. Dr. Heiser have the story so twisted with both Babylonian and Assyrian myth atempting to incoporate it into Bible truth. Truth and lie does not mix! He does not believe in a worldwide flood and that angels have organs to procreate is totally a lie! Look at how they are created and that I cannot apologize! But when, I state something wrong I will say I made a mistake and ask for forgiveness! Blessings!
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