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  1. According to Scripture it is the first of all feasts; "..Speak unto the Children of Israel, and say unto THEM, concerning the FEASTS of the Lord....even THESE are my feasts. Six days work shall be done but the seventh day is the sabbath....." Leviticus 23, 1-3. That's numerically #1 in the list given (in Scripture) and beyond that the Jewish Religious Authority (which was valid) up until the Resurrection of Christ had the authority to bind laws onto faithful Jews. This was in fact confirmed by Jesus Himself. God is absolutely moral therefore God's creation was absolutely moral (but with free will). Cain KNEW what he did to Able was wrong without the commandment 'thou shall not kill' being given to him. These types of Commandments are obligatory at all times. What Catholicism maintains is that the ritual or ceremonial aspects of the law were fulfilled by Christ and indeed have passed away and it is these ceremonial or ritual aspects of the law that are no longer binding on Christians. Cain was commanded by nature to not kill his brother but he went ahead and did it anyway - he knew what he did was wrong. A person who wasn't supernaturally instructed about the Sabbath would not be commanded by nature to render external worship to God on that over any other day and therein is the difference & proof the Catechism of Trent called this issue out rightly. Someone outside of Israel that happened to join Israel became (at the point of their joining) part of Israel. Do I buy into the popular beliefs on man-made climate change? NO, I do not at all. Christians are not under the "THE LAW" as it was promulgated prior to the death and resurrection of Christ. Compare the two Scriptures below Matthew 23, 1-4 Vs. Matthew 28, 18-20 The power the Scribes and Pharisees had was removed and transferred to the Church. It was the Church that since the Resurrection had the authority to teach what Christ had commanded. If you are willing to speak to actual Jews they will readily tell you that Paul's teaching was that the Sabbath had terminated as an obligatory observance for Christians. This is something that's well known. Again, I'm not saying that Christians are not under the moral law - far from it. I'm saying that Christians are not under the ceremonial or ritual laws the Israelites were under. The Sabbath was the only Commandment of the ten that had a ritual or ceremonial aspect to it that required supernatural communication so people could even be aware of it. Every Culture throughout history has dedicated or set aside some time for the worship of it's god's - the fact this can be observed proves that indeed there is a natural law within man that something is greater than himself and that people should show external worship to what they understand is God. Granted that there is only one God and the Jews were worshipping that real God however this isn't the point for our discussion. The point is that a Pagan, who had zero knowledge of the ritual or ceremonial aspects of Jewish law, could still, "do by nature the things contained in the law" and were approved in God's sight. This should be all anyone needs to see to know that the ceremonial aspects of the law were NOT what God wrote on the heart and in fact were / are worthless for Salvation. The Catholic Church simply won't persecute people who like to worship on Saturday. You would have to count the Ethiopian Orthodox, a 50 million member Church as a fellow victim because they "observe the 7th day Sabbath" & won't eat shrimp, pork or anything classified as unclean by the Torah. I have never heard anything from that group whereas they think the Catholic Church will persecute them for their Sabbath views. Have you? There is one such Church down the street from where I live, I've got to know one of these guys that worked at a gas station I stopped at all the time. They are VERY devout about the Sabbath (on Saturday) and would never eat no kosher foods. I have never once heard them make the claims about the Sabbath being the reason for being attacked or singled out.
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  2. Rahab

    3 word devotional

    ⏳ Wait for Him ⌚ Lam 3:25 The LORD is good unto them that wait for him, to the soul that seeketh him.
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  3. Gregory Matthews

    Who's fooling who?

    Question: Who's fooling who? [The title of this thread.] Answer: HCH.
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  4. I think some people only want to read about "their" day. And thats what misses the whole point of the text. It says "the Sabbath of The Lord Thy God." I had someone earlier this week say to me "Can you tell me more about "your" Sabbath; and that was the first thing I said to them, that it isn't "my Sabbath;" it's God's.
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  5. I notice that this has been answered!! I was going to say the same, read the first six days!! Wouldn't follow that the 7th day was the same?????
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  6. No the Sabbath at sundown comes from the Creation of the earth by God himself!!!!!!! Its not just a tradition its what Jesus did as his custom was!!
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  7. hch

    Who's fooling who?

    When a lack of understanding and spiritual discernment prevails, the results is that "some honest souls have been driven to take positions against the visions and against the body, which they never would have taken had their cases been managed with discretion and mercy."--Testimonies, vol. 1, pp. 382, 383. (1863) I can only teach what I understand upon the subject presented and encourage everyone to check the facts. If GM's assessment of what I have presented is right, I will be embarrassed. When the spiritual discernment that the Lord has blessed me with is proven to be the heart of the third angel's message that we need to have to see us thru to the kingdom, my testimony will be that I made countless efforts to present the warning in every possible way that I could find to make it clear and to encourage further study.
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