bonnie Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Getting to know Ben Carson’s Seventh-day Adventist Faith by Ted Thursday, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:04 PM EDT Share This Tweet This While speaking with presidential hopeful Dr. Ben Carson on Wednesday, Glenn asked him if he was ready to respond to criticisms about his religion. He resolutely said yes. Knowing next to nothing about Carson’s Christian faith other than that he’s a Seventh Day Adventist, Glenn thought it would be a good idea to get someone from the religion to shed some light on things, before the inevitable attacks from the media begin. The secretary of the North American division of the Seventh Day Adventist, Alexander Bryant, joined Glenn on the radio Thursday to discuss. Listen to or read the revealing interview below. Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Two, two lines that have changed my life and guided me. And the first one has come from Thomas Jefferson, and I’ve said it a million times. Thomas Jefferson said this in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr. And he talked about how he needs to learn mathematics and how he needs to learn literature and all of the different things he needs to know. And the very last section is on religion. And he said, “When it comes to religion, above all things, fix reason firmly in her seat, for if there be a God, he must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear.” So there is no such thing as a question that comes from the devil. There is no such thing as questioning, as long as it is honest. If you’re trying to prove yourself right, then that falls out of the category. The second thing that has guided my life is “by their fruits, ye shall know them.” When I watch Dr. Ben Carson and his wife, and I watch him on the campaign trail and I watch him personally, I see the fruits of his religion, and I see the fruits of his faith. He seems like a very good, decent, honorable man. Now, when I talked to him yesterday, I said, “Are you prepared — because I know what Mitt Romney went through. “Are you prepared because you are a religious person for what’s going to happen to you?” Because I read between the lines. And I could be wrong. Because I read between the lines and he seems to believe that we’re living in the latter days, which I do. But that makes you a kook to the media. And when I said that to him, “Are you prepared,” he was more resolute — correct me if I’m wrong, boys. I think he was more resolute on that than anything else he said. STU: Anything else you talked about. JEFFY: Yeah. GLENN: Right? When it came to his faith, he was unshakable. So when he left, we started talking about it. We realized none of us have an idea what the Seventh Day Adventist — except Stu thinks that they’re vegetarians, and I think it has something to do with Saturday is the Sabbath. And that’s as deep as we go. STU: We’re really informed on this one. GLENN: We’re very informed. So we called the church and we said, “Is there a spokesperson?” Mr. Alex Bryant, he’s the secretary for the North American division of the Seventh Day Adventist church. And he joins us now. Alex, welcome to the program. ALEX: Thank you. It’s good to be here, Glenn. GLENN: Thank you. First of all, I want you to know, you’re not walking into a hostile situation, and I think that’s important as a media person to say to a person of faith. We really just want to know what you guys believe and what sets you apart and different and, quite honestly, I want to get all of the stuff out on — because every church has its kind of kooky quirks. And from inside the church, it’s totally normal. Outside the church, it will look crazy. And every church has that. So I’m trying to figure out, what is it they’re going to? Let’s understand in a reasonable way so everybody can defend someone else’s faith and say, “Back off, Jack. Back off.” So can you tell us — give us a nutshell first of what you guys believe. ALEX: We believe that Jesus Christ died and rose again. We’re part of the Christian faith community. We believe that God’s grace encompasses all of humankind, their entire world. And that God loves everyone. We are Bible-believing people. We base our beliefs, our faith, our actions, and our behavior on the Bible. We’re also Seventh Day Adventist, where we keep the Sabbath and we believe in a second coming of Christ. But we’re part of the larger Christian community and the Christian family who uplifts the name of Jesus Christ. And we believe that the gospel of Jesus Christ is designed to lift humanity into hope and wholeness out of our brokenness. GLENN: Now, you believe — ALEX: And that’s what we advocate. GLENN: Okay. You believe that Jesus rose from the dead. He — body and all, and he was taken up into heaven and all of that, right? ALEX: Yes. GLENN: Okay. When you say — now I want you to know, I’m a Mormon. So I’m the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, so I’m not asking you this in a hostile away. I believe we are in the latter days. What that means, I don’t know. The apostles have believed that for when they were there, they thought Jesus was coming back. I have read, in doing a little bit of research, that your church said that it was in the 1800s that Jesus would come back. I think my church might have said that he was coming back. But do you believe we are literally living in the latter days, whatever that might mean to God? ALEX: Absolutely. We believe that we’re living in the last days, according to what we read from the Bible in Matthew Chapter 24 and 25 and the signs that Jesus gave of his soon return and the things that will happen before he returns. GLENN: You believe in the — the devil and the Antichrist and all of that stuff from the Book of Revelation as well? ALEX: Yes, we believe in the Book of Revelation and that there is a devil. GLENN: Can you go into — Stu seems to think that you guys are vegetarians. STU: Well, I know there is at least some — because I’m actually a vegetarian. Again, the only conservative vegetarian in America potentially. And I know we go to — there are stores near your churches and schools that sell a lot of vegetarian stuff. Is that part of the faith? Is that a recommendation? What’s the vegetarian connection? ALEX: Well, Stu, you’re correct. We do advocate healthful living, and that encompasses a vegetarian lifestyle and even a vegan lifestyle. And not all of our members are vegetarian or vegan — GLENN: Can I tell you something, Alexander, that’s what — now I know why I didn’t go — I mean, I went to some crazy churches. I went to a church, when I was on a church tour, where the pastor didn’t even believe in God. That’s how crazy I went. That’s why I didn’t visit your church now, I’m sure of it. Because you said no to steak. I’m sorry, there is no God, if he’s against steak. ALEX: That’s right. But we do advocate a healthful lifestyle. GLENN: Okay. So it’s not about — is it about the care of animals or is it — is it that and a healthy lifestyle, or what? ALEX: It’s a healthful lifestyle. And we do feel that God has made us stewards of the earth. But our — most of our emphasis is on living healthier and having a better lifestyle here on earth. PAT: Does that include not drinking and smoking? ALEX: It includes not drinking alcohol and smoking and taking any other harmful substances to the body. PAT: We have that in common. GLENN: We have that in common. Ours is called the word of wisdom where we can’t eat certain things for health reasons. So there’s lots of similarities there. Can I ask you a question? Because you sound rather mellow yourself. Is it required to have a very even temperament like Dr. Ben Carson — PAT: Has? ALEX: Well, we believe and try to follow the example of Christ. GLENN: Right. ALEX: And the example of Christ, temperament is a part of what God teaches us in the development of our Christian character. We’re not always perfect in that regard. But we try to advocate that example that Christ gave us and we believe part of that is an even — you know, is being temperate in everything, including our temperament. PAT: Yeah. GLENN: So is Ben Carson the first Seventh Day Adventist to run? ALEX: He’s the first one I’m aware of to run. GLENN: Is this kind of an exciting thing? Like when Mitt Romney ran and — to the Mormons, that was like, whoa, that’s cool. We’re suddenly cool. And we’re like, no, you’re not. No, you’re not. Is this kind of a neat thing to have him run? ALEX: Well, you have to understand Ben Carson’s relationship to the church. Ben Carson has had a very storied life, where he came from, how he studied and how he lifted himself out of poverty. And he wrote the book, Gifted Hands. And many, many people in our church and outside of our church were blessed as a result, inspired as a result. And many lives have been changed as a result of reading how God used him, how God changed him. So his lifestyle, his life has been very inspiring to us from the beginning, even before the run for presidency. And we are very proud of what God has done through him. And how God has used him. PAT: So you are pretty excited about it, but this is your excited voice? (laughter) ALEX: I guess that is as excited as it gets. GLENN: So, Alex, I hope you understand the spirit this is in. ALEX: Sure. GLENN: We really admire Ben Carson has a man. We may not agree with his policies. But I’d vote for him. And I really, really admire him as a man. So you must be doing something right in your church. PAT: What are some of the misconceptions of Seventh Day Adventists as you see it? GLENN: First of all, are you the inventor of the Advent Calendar? STU: Hmm. ALEX: Not to my knowledge. GLENN: Not to your knowledge. Okay. All right. Good. ALEX: Not to my knowledge. GLENN: So what are the things that are — ALEX: Sorry. Go ahead. PAT: What are the things that people have wrong about it? GLENN: Right. That we’ll hear on the news. Like, you’re going to hear this, and this is not what it is. ALEX: You know, I’m not exactly sure what we’re going to hear wrong about the Seventh Day Adventist church on the news. I know that, you know, we are — we worship on the Sabbath. We don’t worship on Sundays as we believe from the Bible. PAT: So the Sabbath being Saturday? ALEX: The Sabbath being Saturday, that’s correct. PAT: Okay. GLENN: I love that because then you can watch football on Sunday. PAT: But that’s college football day, though. So does that eliminate college football for the day for you? ALEX: Well, we have Jesus football on the Sabbath. GLENN: If that’s what stops you from joining, you’ve got a really — you’ve got to reevaluate your life. ALEX: Yeah. And we think Jesus football on the Sabbath trumps college football on the Sabbath. PAT: Yeah, you’re probably right. You’re probably right. Quarterback. He’s got a great arm. STU: He does. He does. GLENN: So we sure appreciate it, Alex. I hope that your faith doesn’t come under attack. We have to stop attacking each other. ALEX: That’s correct. GLENN: The body of Christ and the body of God needs to start standing together. The children of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob need to stand together because these are — PAT: I’ve said that for years. How many times have I said that? GLENN: Shut up. JEFFY: Oh, my gosh. GLENN: Alex is going to be nice. I’m not a Seventh Day Adventist, shut up! This is truly a time where we really need to stand together. ALEX: Yes. GLENN: Because perilous times are coming, and I wish you all the best. And, Alex, thank you so much for having the guts to come on the program. Because you had to have thought, “I could be walking into a buzz saw.” ALEX: Yes. GLENN: Let me say it more like Ben Carson, you had to have thought — ALEX: Well, we’re hopeful that if attention does come to our name that the good works of the Seventh Day Adventist church, some of the humanitarian things that we do that we’re involved in, the disaster relief that we do, what we do in the community — we were just in San Antonio earlier in the summer where we provided free health care to over 6,000 people. Over 17,000 health professionals valued over $20 million. PAT: Wow. ALEX: And that’s one of the heart — that’s one of the mainstays of the Seventh Day Adventist church. We have a very strong emphasis on community and helping our brother and sister, especially in the areas of health and education. PAT: I’ve been saying that a lot. ALEX: Disaster relief and hope is a major focus of what we try to do. And so if attention would come to the Seventh Day Adventist church’s name, I hope that they could see that the Seventh Day Adventist church exists to help lift our brothers and sisters to join with our Christian brothers and sisters. You know, Glenn, you have the Mercury One project. And we are in every state. And there are many ways we can come together as Christians to help lift our brothers and sisters. We have over 90 million people unemployed in this country. And it seems to me that we can use this as an opportunity, as Christian brothers and sisters, and join hands together and lift each other and not denigrate each other, not try to find all the negative things about each other or the differences that we have. There’s so many, many things that we have in common. And I think if that can be accomplished as a result of attention brought to our name, I think the Lord would be blessed and the people that God has called us to be served would be lifted. GLENN: Alexander Bryant, from the Seventh Day Adventist church, thank you so much, sir. I appreciate it. God bless you. ALEX: Thank you. Okay. God bless you. GLENN: God bless you. Source: http://www.glennbeck.com/2015/10/22/getting-to-know-ben-carsons-seventh-day-adventist-faith?utm_source=glennbeck&utm_medium=contentcopy_link phkrause 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Administrators Naomi Posted October 23, 2015 Administrators Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Thank you Bonnie for this post...we need something positive about Dr. Carlson and the SDA Church. Happy Sabbath If anyone is interested the link below is a good example of one of our newest projects. http://yourbestpathwaytohealth.org/volunteers Edited October 23, 2015 by Naomi insert link Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
bonnie Posted October 23, 2015 Author Posted October 23, 2015 I think some of the most negative towards Dr Carson will come from SDA's. I follow many SDA's on facebook. Most are very liberal and the venom spewed by them towards Dr Carson is amazing Hopefully there will be more positive articles coming out. Naomi 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Administrators Naomi Posted October 24, 2015 Administrators Posted October 24, 2015 I know there is a lot of garbage out there. Always is when someone is trying to do something positive. Not worth the effort to read. God is still in control Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
Ellen Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 I read the entire interview it is such a difference in the u s how the media prepares for something so pertinent to the listener/viewer. They really didn't want answers, they wanted controversy and were looking for something dramatic to report IMO. I don't think ALEX gave them much to dramatize, but I believe he was right to just answer the question and not go into details. Quote
GayatfootofCross Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Our SDA Forums are a Spectacle To the World... 1 Cor 4:9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Ben Carson Puts Spotlight on Seventh-Day Adventists http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/28/us/politics/ben-carson-seventh-day-adventists-presidential-election.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0 Ben Carson, a Seventh-day Adventist, has also taken his message to other churches, among them the Maple Street Missionary Baptist Church in Des Moines in August. Credit Justin Sullivan/Getty Images Each time Ben Carson prepared to cut into a human brain, the neurosurgeon, who was the first to separate twins conjoined at the head, said a prayer. He would scrub his hands, close his eyes and ask for God’s help. “Lord, you be the neurosurgeon,” he has described himself thinking. “I’ll be the hands.” Since packing up his scalpel and becoming a Republican presidential candidate, Mr. Carson has not shied from talking about his Christian faith and sprinkling policy pronouncements with prayer as he travels the country talking to voters in his blunt but soft-spoken style. So far it has worked — he has overtaken Donald J. Trump in a new national poll of Republicans and is beating him in Iowa, the crucial caucus state. But Mr. Carson’s religion has been cast in a harsher light in recent days, as Mr. Trump, whose support among evangelicals is falling, suggested that the doctor is not a mainstream Christian because he is a member of the Seventh-day Adventist denomination. In an election season where religion and politics have collided frequently, Mr. Carson’s faith remains a mystery to some and is something that could prove to be a strength and a liability. It is not the first time that a leading Republican presidential contender has faced questions about how evangelical Protestants, who make up a large section of the party’s electorate, would view their religious beliefs. In 2008 and 2012, Mitt Romney had to explain to voters what it meant to be a Mormon, and despite losing the last election, he won nearly 80 percent of the evangelical vote. The Adventist legacy is rooted in the 19th century and grew out of what was known as the “Great Disappointment.” Most followers consider its initial founder to be William Miller, a Baptist preacher from upstate New York who calculated that Jesus Christ was due to return to earth on Oct. 22, 1844. When the savior failed to show up, the flock was left in a state of despair. One of Miller’s followers, Ellen G. White, reconstituted the denomination under the doctrine that Jesus had actually relocated to a heavenly sanctuary where he would begin judgment of the world. She was seen as a prophet. Unlike members of other Christian denominations, Adventists honor the Sabbath on Saturdays instead of Sundays. They tend to be vegetarians, and they continue to wait patiently for the Second Coming and the end of the world. The Seventh-day Adventist Church counts more than 18 million members globally and 1.2 million in North America, but some skeptics see it as a sect out of touch with mainstream Christianity. While the church avoids involvement in politics, Mr. Carson’s emergence as a prominent political figure has presented an opportunity for it to gain credibility. “We do not endorse any candidates, and we do not use our church for political reasons,” Alex Bryant, the secretary of the North American division of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, said of Mr. Carson’s candidacy. “But we do look at it as an opportunity to tell the world, tell this country about Seventh-day Adventism, our beliefs and our desire to lift up Jesus Christ.” A twice-baptized Adventist, Mr. Carson has become one of the church’s biggest stars. In his autobiography, “Gifted Hands,” he recounts his mother’s conversion, which began in the ward of a mental hospital. It was not until he was 14 that Mr. Carson became truly captured by his faith. Known for having a temper back then, the young Mr. Carson let a petty dispute turn into a tantrum that ended with his knifing a friend. The episode could have been deadly had it not been for a belt buckle that blocked his blade. From that time on, Mr. Carson prayed away his anger. “My temper will never control me again,” Mr. Carson wrote in his book. “Never again. I’m free.” Mr. Carson, who declined to be interviewed for this article, attends church regularly and taught Bible school at his Seventh-day Adventist church in Maryland. Now that he is a politician, he speaks often about the role that God has played in his life, but he has tended to vary discussion of his religious beliefs depending on the venue. During a 1999 interview with the Religion News Service, Mr. Carson said he was happy to attend other kinds of churches. “I spend just as much time in non-Seventh-day Adventist churches because I’m not convinced that the denomination is the most important thing,” he said. “I think it’s the relationship with God that’s most important.” More recently, however, Mr. Carson made clear that he would always defend his Adventist beliefs against skeptics. “I’m proud of the fact that I believe what God has said, and I’ve said many times that I’ll defend it before anyone,” Mr. Carson told the Adventist Report in 2013. “If they want to criticize the fact that I believe in a literal six-day creation, let’s have at it, because I will poke all kinds of holes in what they believe.” For theological reasons, Adventism has faced tensions with the Roman Catholic and Baptist Churches over the years. Last spring, Mr. Carson was invited to speak at a Southern Baptist Pastors’ Conference in Ohio, but he faced opposition because of his beliefs and eventually backed out. “Dr. Carson is a Seventh-day Adventist,” a group of pastors from the Baptist organization B21 wrote in protest of his visit. “Their official theology denies the doctrine of hell in favor of annihilation,” they wrote, “and believes that those who worship on Sunday will bear the ‘mark of the beast.’ ” The church has also had a strongly anti-Catholic strain, and when Mr. Carson decided to attend Pope Francis’ visit to Congress last month, Adventist message boards lit up with questions about his presence with the pontiff. Some questioned his referring to the pope as the “Holy Leader” and wondered, “How do such words come from the mouth of a Seventh-day Adventist?” On the other hand, some Adventists have been disappointed in a perceived lack of tolerance regarding Islam from Mr. Carson, who said recently that he did not think a Muslim should be able to be president. His fierce opposition to the Affordable Care Act, which he has compared to slavery, has also rankled some in the community who say the law is in keeping with the religion’s focus on promoting health. “It was certainly disappointing for me,” Sam Geli, a retired Adventist chaplain who considers himself an independent, said of Mr. Carson’s remarks about Muslims. “It was very sad.” But will Mr. Carson’s religion affect his prospects with conservative evangelicals in places such as Iowa? So far it has not been a problem. “I think a lot of evangelicals would say they would rather have a practicing Adventist than a nominal Presbyterian who doesn’t seem to have basic theological understanding about Christianity,” said Thomas Kidd, a professor of history and religion at Baylor University in Texas. “Even if he’s not an evangelical like us, he’s sort of a friendly fellow traveler in a way that Trump is not.” Bob Vander Plaats, the president and chief executive of the Family Leader, a social conservative group in Iowa, said his members had not yet expressed concern about Mr. Carson’s religion. He cited the support that Mr. Romney received from evangelicals in 2012, saying he did not think the fact that Mr. Carson is a Seventh-day Adventist would be an issue unless theology became central to the political debate. “I think Trump threw out the fleece to let people check it out,” Mr. Vander Plaats said of why he thought Mr. Carson’s religion suddenly became an issue. “People of faith will be more interested in the fruit of leadership, policy and does it align with honoring God or dishonoring God.” Correction: October 27, 2015 An earlier version of this article misstated when Donald J. Trump took issue with Ben Carson’s religion. It was Saturday, not Friday. Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
GayatfootofCross Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Column: Ben Carson’s faith — and mine — has already touched your life http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/10/26/seventh-day-adventist-trump-carson-column/74647308/ Mark A. Kellner 10:20 a.m. EDT October 27, 2015 America's one million Seventh-day Adventists would be happy to end Donald Trump's ignorance. In what might well be a “dog whistle” statement aimed at alienating evangelical Christian voters in Iowa who like Dr. Ben Carson, real estate magnate Donald Trump last Saturday delivered a oblique judgment of the neurosurgeon’s faith: "I'm Presbyterian, boy, that's down the middle of the road, folks, in all fairness. I mean, Seventh-day Adventist, I don't know about. I just don't know about." In painting a religion as unknown, Trump seemed to suggest there must be something amiss about Carson's faith. Carson has credited his Christian faith, and Adventism in particular, for shaping his worldview and contributing to his success in life. Trump probably isn’t alone in not knowing much, or anything, about the Seventh-day Adventist Church, a Christian movement organized 152 years ago in Battle Creek, Michigan, and which claims 19 million members around the world, of which a little more than one million live in the U.S. But the church of Carson’s choice — and, since 1999, mine — has already touched the lives of multiple millions, even if they don’t realize it. Did you have cereal for breakfast? Thank W.K. Kellogg, who along with his brother, physician John Harvey Kellogg, adopted health principles promoted by Ellen G. White, a pioneering co-founder of the Adventist movement. White advocated for a vegetarian diet, and it was the Kelloggs who pressed corn into flakes that could be served with (preferably soy) milk for breakfast. (Until he entered the presidential race, Carson was a director of the Kellogg company.) Do you know an infant who received a heart transplant? You can credit Dr. Leonard Bailey, a surgeon at Loma Linda University Medical Center in California for research that made such procedures better. Loma Linda is a Seventh-day Adventist Church-owned hospital and medical school, and Bailey’s controversial 1984 implantation of a baboon heart in Stephanie Fae Beauclair, an infant whose congenital heart defect was a death sentence, advanced the procedure. Loma Linda University Medical Center also led out in proton therapy for prostate cancer, saving an untold number of lives. Its graduates include Gillian Seton, a physician who served on the front lines of the 2014 Ebola outbreak in Liberia. Another alum was the late Frank Jobe, the orthopedist who invented the “Tommy John surgery” to repair baseball pitcher’s damaged arms. The Adventist lifestyle, which encourages abstinence from alcohol, tobacco, caffeine and meat, is credited with extending lifespan. On average, studies including the famous "Blue Zone" project reveal, Seventh-day Adventists who follow the guidelines live seven years longer than the general population. Beyond medicine, Adventists maintain a large education system, from kindergarten through postgraduate training with 1.8 million students enrolled around the world. In developing nations especially, low-cost, high-quality Adventist education is often a way up to escape poverty. USA TODAY Adventism is a Protestant Christian faith, albeit slightly different from the “down-the-middle” Presbyterian religion Trump claims. Its principal difference is found in the church’s name: Seventh-day Adventists worship on what we believe is the Bible Sabbath, the seventh day of the week called “Saturday” in English, but referred to as “Sabbath” in over 100 other languages, including Spanish, “Sabado.” The Adventist part? We believe Jesus is returning soon, although we have never set a specific date. The church and its members also respect and take counsel from the writings of Ellen White, who we believe exercised the biblical gift of prophecy during her decades of public ministry. But we don’t worship White or her writings, nor do they substitute for the Bible. “Brethren and sisters, I commend unto you this Book,” were White’s final public words, referring to the Bible she held in her hands, at a 1909 meeting of Adventist leaders. (She died six years later.) Not only do Adventists rely on the Bible as the final word on issues of doctrine, but we also work diligently to protect religious liberty. We’ve been to court on behalf of Sabbath-keepers, and filed a brief supporting Samantha Elauf, the Muslim woman refused a sales job by retailer Aberchrombie & Fitch because she wore a hijab. Adventists believe religious liberty belongs to all people, everywhere. What Donald Trump doesn’t know about Seventh-day Adventism could perhaps fill a book or two. But the one million Adventists in the U.S. would be happy to tell him — or anyone else — the full story. Mark A. Kellner, a writer in Salt Lake City, worked at the Seventh-day Adventist Church’s world headquarters from 2003 to 2014, including seven years as news editor for Adventist Review and Adventist World magazines. phkrause 1 Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
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