How Long Is The Test?

[BlessedMan]

12 hours ago, BlessedMan said:

Here is a text that seems very pertinent to the OP

Now to figure out how that all works? Ideas anyone?

@Rahab actually supplied us with a good text here for the OP in her daily Three Word Devotional for today:

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Pro 1:23  "If you will turn and pay attention to my rebuke, Behold, I [Wisdom] will pour out my spirit on you; I will make my words known to you. [Isa_11:2; Eph_1:17-20]  {from the AMP+ version}

The suggested act of "pouring out The Holy Spirit" suggests a cup or vessel which needs to be "filled," and that seems mostly dependent upon how we respond to "rebukes" from our Lord. "Rebuke" is seemingly different than "torture" or "discipline" but before we get hng up on semantics or words, let us consider that when God speaks, regardless of the context; the benefits of heeding whatever He says, and of listening close to The Holy Spirit is the result of knowing Him, and loving Him. Why would we want to love someone we don't even know? (John 17:3)

[JoeMo]

And the test goes on.  How long will it go on? IMHO until Jesus returns; and the test will get harder and harder.

"Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved." (Matt 24:12)

In biblical context,  wickedness and lawlessness are opposition to God's Law.  God says homosexual activity is wrong; the world increasingly says it's okay.  The world says murder is wrong; but 60 million unborn babies are murdered every year.  God says fornication and adultery is wrong; but it seems to be par for the course in western civilization. God says the family is the basic unit of civilization.  Antifa and BLM want to break up families.  The Bible says we should not forsake the gathering of believers.  The government has shut down churches in the name of ending the pandemic (which will never end if the woke movement has their way). Speaking of personal experience, I see the whole world going crazy.  Unbelieving family members are all of a sudden distancing themselves from  believers, calling us fanatics and crazy. even our children question how we can believe in a myth.  Soft persecution has begum. If the Marxist/socialist left comes to power, it will become hard persecution.  People like BLM and Antifa are already pushing hard persecution on believers. And this is just the beginning of sorrows. I pray for strength and faith to endure till the end.

[stinsonmarri]

On 9/17/2020 at 10:51 AM, JoeMo said:

And the test goes on.  How long will it go on? IMHO until Jesus returns; and the test will get harder and harder.

"Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved." (Matt 24:12)

In biblical context,  wickedness and lawlessness are opposition to God's Law.  God says homosexual activity is wrong; the world increasingly says it's okay.  The world says murder is wrong; but 60 million unborn babies are murdered every year.  God says fornication and adultery is wrong; but it seems to be par for the course in western civilization. God says the family is the basic unit of civilization.  Antifa and BLM want to break up families.  The Bible says we should not forsake the gathering of believers.  The government has shut down churches in the name of ending the pandemic (which will never end if the woke movement has their way). Speaking of personal experience, I see the whole world going crazy.  Unbelieving family members are all of a sudden distancing themselves from  believers, calling us fanatics and crazy. even our children question how we can believe in a myth.  Soft persecution has begum. If the Marxist/socialist left comes to power, it will become hard persecution.  People like BLM and Antifa are already pushing hard persecution on believers. And this is just the beginning of sorrows. I pray for strength and faith to endure till the end.

I guess you did not hear or read Bob Woodward's tape and book called Rage. He is a staunch conservative Republican. You also did not hear Christopher Wray report before Congress.

…The domestic terrorism bucket, the category as a whole, racially motivated violent extremism is, I think, the biggest bucket within that larger group, within the racially motivated violent extremist bucket,” said Wray. “People ascribing to some kind of white supremacist-type ideologies is certainly the biggest chunk of that.” The bureau chief went on to note that, when it comes to extremist violence in the U.S., 2019 was the deadliest year since 1995, when white supremacist Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people by bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City. 

What gets me is this preaching about abortions, yet children who are alive  you have locked up in cages in the area close to the border, many have contracted the Virus and are dying. In Georgia, a doctor is snatching out uterus at an immigration detention center.  Olivia Troye you know Pence aid came forward just this week, and she too also stated that the man in the Whitehouse knew how deadly the virus was. He told them that he is glad that he doesn't have to touch his beloved fans, he said, “Maybe this COVID thing is a good thing. I don’t like shaking hands with people. I don’t have to shake hands with these disgusting people.” These are his fans and so much more that this demon fill man is inspiring to do. I told you about this personally last year that he will try to go to war. You and I have talked about this man, yet you hold on to him believing his lies. 

You then provided Matt 24:12 when Verse 11 should be included.

And many false prophets shall rise and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. Mat 24: 11, 12

Boy, have many of you being deceived. Let’s break Verse 11 down, shall we! Now, many read the word “prophets,” thinking it is many but actually only one individual now here’s what Strong’s Greek dictionary states:

G5578 Pseudoprophētēs: From G5571 and G4396; a spurious prophet, that is, pretended foreteller or religious impostor: - false prophet.  G5571 Pseudēs: From G5574; untrue, that is, erroneous, deceitful, wicked: - false, liar. G5574 Pseudomai: Middle voice of an apparently primary verb; to utter an untruth or attempt to deceive by falsehood: - falsely, lie. G5457 Phōs: From an obsolete phaō (to shine or make manifest, especially by rays); luminousness (in the widest application, natural or artificial, abstract or concrete, literal or figurative): light. A primary verb; properly to “lay” forth, that is, (figuratively) relate (in words [usually of systematic or set discourse; generally refer to an individual expression or speech respectively; by implication to mean: - ask, bid, boast, call, describe, give out, name, put forth, saying, on, shew, speak, tell, utter.

That is a complete identification of the man in the White House. What is so sad, the enemy behind all of this is Satan who want to stop the prophecies of the Bible. However, what is happening he is fulfilling them. When Floyd was killed the whole world saw and a change took place across the country get you facts together Joe. This Gospel will be preached to the entire world and it is being fulfilled under a sinful man. Violence and hatred also racism is here, and it is not this suppose antifa but people who claim to know THE MOST HIGH, but their actions shows who they really serve. What’s in your heart will show up and it has. No one is telling you or any Evangelic to get an abortion though secretly many of them do as well. Just like they have these sex and fraud iniquities including gay acts and you really don’t think they are not aborting unwanted babies? I got a mountain I want to sell you if you believe that lie. YAHWEH gives us choices HE also gave Satan and his evil spirits the same thing too, but religious people think they can force people to do what they don’t do themselves behind close doors and with money. You want to force people on your view or else. Who died and become a deity, that’s what I would like to know. Sin is sin, clean out your own house with YAHWEH and let HIM do the same thing to others. When did any of you create beings, give me a call when you do!

YAHWEH always give you a preview of what's going to take place in a larger way. Trump shows clearly what the beast is going to do. You all love him, and he detest you and the soldiers. It is all a front and all of his cronies are crooks and have been convicted, all of them. Barr is his Roy Cohn and he got people like Herman Kane dying over his lies. They care less about their lives and others, they are all delusional because they like him had a hidden agenda that has come to the light. Look at Jerry Falwell Jr falling from grace: An intoxicated Jerry Falwell Jr. had fallen, lost "a lot of blood" and had cuts all over his face after injuring himself less than a week after he resigned as president of Liberty University, a newly released transcript of the 911 call revealed. Fox Cable News He was having sex along with his wife with the pool boy and before him, the pool boy’s friend. How on earth can you talk about just abortion with all of these fake people are showing their true character?

Next good ole Steve Bannon: Steve Bannon, a former adviser to President Trump, was among four suspects arrested Thursday and indicted in connection with an online fundraising campaign that allegedly defrauded donors of hundreds of thousands of dollars, the Justice Department announced. Fox Cable News Well it seems that the Republicans are Mexico because they gave this crook their money to build the fake wall. Really this is sad!

Over and over you hear of the crooked people around the fake person, that oozes out criminal ways. Just breaking YAHWEH'S Commandments out in the open and using their followers, lying and taking their money, “these disgusting people,” who believe the virus is a hoax. Sound just like the people in Noah's day that YAHSHUA prophesied about. Only eight people out of billions went into the boat! So, you and others go ahead continue to believe this man who cannot stand to even shake your hand. Take his word over YAHWEH, following him to destruction. He will try to take over this country, but he won't and what will you do then? Go on a killing spree to show your hate and contentment of YAHSHUA'S Creation! Then you will realize who you really are murders, killing living people. Just please leave the stories about abortion alone unless you tell all the iniquities that is taking place. I can also can provide if you want all those in the Evangelical world that goes and get abortions themselves or their daughters. YAHWEH will reveal it all! The Test is accepting the truth amidst a truly false prophet.

 Prayer is truly needed, Happy Sabbath!

[B/W Photodude]

8 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

That is a complete identification of the man in the White House. What is so sad, the enemy behind all of this is Satan who want to stop the prophecies of the Bible.

Having read thru this post which is just another in a long line of hate filled screeds against the President by a wannabe historian, it makes me wonder what the future holds for Adventistan or any Christian forum on the internet. I haven't posted much lately, but do monitor the site frequently looking for any worthwhile threads to post in. It seems rational thoughts and threads are dwindling.

Many posts I have written to counter these screeds against the President I have presented many sources from even the black community to have them totally ignored to maintain this hateful narrative against the President. I had a lengthly post in progress to discuss these leftists claims, but why bother. Why bother beating my head against the wall any more.  Then to be called a liar and dealing with lies, I don't need it. I find TikTok to be more interesting to hang out over there.

tiktok.com/@sharpiethedachshund

However, the President, members of his cabinet, and even many SDAs have been trashed and hated on by this poster, so I am in good company. Even the Gospels gives good advice for this situation, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

Sadly, some even seem to be in agreement with this poster and actually believe that these riots and social unrest are just right wingers doing it. Yeah, that was a good one. When the President's supporters had a demonstration in Portland against the rioting, the leader was killed by one of the leftist thugs (allegedly).

So, this is something for the moderators to consider as posts like this continue on Adventistan. It seems that good threads are decreasing and many posters are infrequently here. Perhaps the forum is downgrading into a "Trivial Pursuit" forum. Also, spammers are increasingly creating accounts and spamming the forum and their posts remain for hours if not still in the archives.

What is coming thru to me in much of my study and pondering of the current events (we were admonished by EGW to be astute students of history and current events) in 2020 is that a seismic shift has occurred. I tend to believe that nothing of this nature occurs without even greater events in the spiritual world. Angels are depicted as holding back the four winds of strife. I suspicion that they are loosening their hold on these winds. Accompanying this is also a greater departure of the Holy Spirit from the earth with any remaining image of God in people being increasingly erased.

8 hours ago, stinsonmarri said:

Prayer is truly needed, Happy Sabbath!

I know a pastor who can say the most hurtful things to other people and noting their emotional response will say, "Just kidding." Adding "Happy Sabbaths" and other sayings at the end does not change the hateful nature of your posts.

[Theophilus]

I read somewhere that "Do not cast your pearls before swine" is not a cut.  It's your opinion, your belief.  Whose pearls are they? Yours. Now if it said "Do not cast God's pearls before swine", then that is different.

About the right wing/ left wing, I believe Chris Wray said that more problems were caused by the right. 

 

Once again, Antifa means anti fascist. I don't see anything wrong with that. And as for BLM, there are some  extremists just like there are in the right. 

And while Stinson Marri got on a soapbox, and proceeded to vent, you need to realize that you vent, too. You come across as just as angry, if not angrier,  as she.

The difference is, she owns it.

[phkrause]

2 hours ago, Theophilus said:

I read somewhere that "Do not cast your pearls before swine" is not a cut.  It's your opinion, your belief.  Whose pearls are they? Yours. Now if it said "Do not cast God's pearls before swine", then that is different.

About the right wing/ left wing, I believe Chris Wray said that more problems were caused by the right. 

 

Once again, Antifa means anti fascist. I don't see anything wrong with that. And as for BLM, there are some  extremists just like there are in the right. 

And while Stinson Marri got on a soapbox, and proceeded to vent, you need to realize that you vent, too. You come across as just as angry, if not angrier,  as she.

The difference is, she owns it.

Excellent post!!

[B/W Photodude]

7 hours ago, Theophilus said:

I read somewhere that "Do not cast your pearls before swine" is not a cut.  It's your opinion, your belief.  Whose pearls are they? Yours. Now if it said "Do not cast God's pearls before swine", then that is different.

Suggesting to someone that they discontinue engaging in character assassination seems to be not mine, but God's., as I read my Bible and SOP. But then again, calling people vile names repeatedly may just be OK. Your call.

7 hours ago, Theophilus said:

About the right wing/ left wing, I believe Chris Wray said that more problems were caused by the right.

Well, Mr Wray is entitled to his opinion, but many others are of a different opinion. We shall see how it all plays out. Seems the justice dept has hundreds of ongoing investigations for violence from these "peaceful" protests.

7 hours ago, Theophilus said:

Once again, Antifa means anti fascist. I don't see anything wrong with that. And as for BLM, there are some  extremists just like there are in the right. 

Doesn't matter what the name means, but what does 100 days straight of riots in Portland, Oregon with the leftist mayor in hiding after they trashed his condo building suggest? He has been unwilling to ask for federal help to end the violence there. But then average law abiding (as opposed to lawlessness, which is condemned in the Bible) citizens should be able to enjoy their lives without fear of these leftist thugs.

7 hours ago, Theophilus said:

And while Stinson Marri got on a soapbox, and proceeded to vent, you need to realize that you vent, too. You come across as just as angry, if not angrier,  as she.

 

She did not get on a soapbox, she has been on a soapbox for quite awhile trashing the president repeatedly.

I am not angry, just sad to see the world, this nation, and even this forum invaded by this unwarranted hatred.

 

[B/W Photodude]

On 8/8/2020 at 3:10 PM, stinsonmarri said:

You know Photodude a lie don't care who tells it! It is still a lie! What is so sad that those who claim to love THE MOST HIGH do not show it at all.

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. Socrates

[Theophilus]

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Suggesting to someone that they discontinue engaging in character assassination seems to be not mine, but God's., as I read my Bible and SOP. But then again, calling people vile names repeatedly may just be OK. Your call

I read my Bible and SOP, too, and betcha that if it wasn't trump she was talking about, you wouldn't care.

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Well, Mr Wray is entitled to his opinion, but many others are of a different opinion. We shall see how it all plays out. Seems the justice dept has hundreds of ongoing investigations for violence from these "peaceful" protests

I don't think trump any way shape or form represents anything Christian . Just last night, i saw a video of him gleeful that a reporter had been hit with a canister in the knee(actually it was a rubber bullet). He thought it was great. Chris Wray is  directory of the FBI, and I trust him a whole lot more that the DOJ run by Bill Barr, trump attorney. (IMO, he's not the attorney for the people, he's trump's guy. Jeff Sessions was much more moral)

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Doesn't matter what the name means, but what does 100 days straight of riots in Portland, Oregon with the leftist mayor in hiding after they trashed his condo building suggest? He has been unwilling to ask for federal help to end the violence there. But then average law abiding (as opposed to lawlessness, which is condemned in the Bible) citizens should be able to enjoy their lives without fear of these leftist thugs.

I agree there is a problem in Portland.Leftist thugs, huh? There are problems on both sides. Lots of Right Wing  activity there.  I am in fear of the right, seriously. Both the right and republicans scare the dickens out of me.

 

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On 8/8/2020 at 2:10 PM, stinsonmarri said:

You know Photodude a lie don't care who tells it! It is still a lie! What is so sad that those who claim to love THE MOST HIGH do not show it at all.

That was also pretty slick that you went back and grabbed a post from Marri dated August 8, and tried to make it current after you complained to Mr. Matthews to try to wind up the moderators, I assume. She has just as much right to be upset with this Administration as you do to defend it.

 

 

 

[B/W Photodude]

1 hour ago, Theophilus said:

I agree there is a problem in Portland.Leftist thugs, huh? There are problems on both sides. Lots of Right Wing  activity there.  I am in fear of the right, seriously. Both the right and republicans scare the dickens out of me.

[BlessedMan]

Sometimes, the way we see the problem IS the problem

[JoeMo]

17 hours ago, Theophilus said:

Both the right and republicans scare the dickens out of me.

Then you are drinking the socialist/anarchist kool-aid. How many right-wingers are out there killing cops, burning down businesses, breaking windows, harassing bystanders, etc? How many right-wingers are cheering for the rioters and looters? how many conservatives are putting out pallets of bricks and Molotov cocktails  to throw at policemen and into minority-owned businesses?

[Theophilus]

Don't accuse me of drinking anything. I could say the same for you. A couple of others on this forum as well as have commented  about r w activities, and how the right is accusing the left of activities the right has done.  Pallet of bricks? Your side. Umbrella Man? Your side

Save it for somebody else.

[phkrause]

It's amazing to me, we all watch and see him speak and hear what he's saying and can hear his lies!!!!! An now he has himself on tape, on tape with his voice telling you what he really thinks about all of us!! He knew about this virus and said nothing, nada, nix, etc., etc. He even says how dangerous it is and yet he still down plays it. I've also notice how he stays away from everybody and always wondered about that, well now we know, he's more afraid of the virus than everybody else, how pathetic is that?????????? I could go on, but he just makes me more and more angry, just typing this, I can barely see the screen I'm so angry that this man is potus. Having lived in NYC we know exactly what a non human he is, him and his father would go into neighborhoods and get the minorities to give up there homes making them believe that they would have new homes, etc., and than donald and his father would redo that neighborhood and price it out of reach for those people so they couldn't move back into there own neighborhood!!! Well I could go on for many pages, but I wont those that have fallen in love with this man can have him, because we all can hear and see what he is doing, so have at him, he's all yours!!

[stinsonmarri]

On 9/19/2020 at 5:34 AM, B/W Photodude said:

Having read thru this post which is just another in a long line of hate filled screeds against the President by a wannabe historian, it makes me wonder what the future holds for Adventistan or any Christian forum on the internet. I haven't posted much lately, but do monitor the site frequently looking for any worthwhile threads to post in. It seems rational thoughts and threads are dwindling.

Many posts I have written to counter these screeds against the President I have presented many sources from even the black community to have them totally ignored to maintain this hateful narrative against the President. I had a lengthly post in progress to discuss these leftists claims, but why bother. Why bother beating my head against the wall any more.  Then to be called a liar and dealing with lies, I don't need it. I find TikTok to be more interesting to hang out over there.

 

However, the President, members of his cabinet, and even many SDAs have been trashed and hated on by this poster, so I am in good company. Even the Gospels gives good advice for this situation, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

Sadly, some even seem to be in agreement with this poster and actually believe that these riots and social unrest are just right wingers doing it. Yeah, that was a good one. When the President's supporters had a demonstration in Portland against the rioting, the leader was killed by one of the leftist thugs (allegedly).

So, this is something for the moderators to consider as posts like this continue on Adventistan. It seems that good threads are decreasing and many posters are infrequently here. Perhaps the forum is downgrading into a "Trivial Pursuit" forum. Also, spammers are increasingly creating accounts and spamming the forum and their posts remain for hours if not still in the archives.

What is coming thru to me in much of my study and pondering of the current events (we were admonished by EGW to be astute students of history and current events) in 2020 is that a seismic shift has occurred. I tend to believe that nothing of this nature occurs without even greater events in the spiritual world. Angels are depicted as holding back the four winds of strife. I suspicion that they are loosening their hold on these winds. Accompanying this is also a greater departure of the Holy Spirit from the earth with any remaining image of God in people being increasingly erased.

I know a pastor who can say the most hurtful things to other people and noting their emotional response will say, "Just kidding." Adding "Happy Sabbaths" and other sayings at the end does not change the hateful nature of your posts.

Photodude: I love you and I will continue to pray for you. We are living in the days and my test is you. I will not be harsh anymore because you and I know why you say the things you do. Sin blinds the eyes as well as the heart and my heart goes out for you. You would not say the things you say but because you are an angry man. I am sorry about that and wish there was something I can do, only I can't! THE HOLY SPIRIT must do it with you allowing him to comfort you mind and soul. 

Truth will always conquer the untruth so I will let YAHSHUA reveal who is being truthful. I have said my piece and now it time for love to take over so the test I have will end with a crown. I truly want to go to Heaven, don't you? Well we must end this. I hope you will! I do not care about the names you call me YAHWEH and I know what I have accomplish. I will let whatever you feel be your guide. 

May YAHWEH bless you, May HE shine HIS FACE upon you and give you peace, joy and happiness in YAHSHUA'S NAME I pray!

[stinsonmarri]

9 hours ago, JoeMo said:

Then you are drinking the socialist/anarchist kool-aid. How many right-wingers are out there killing cops, burning down businesses, breaking windows, harassing bystanders, etc? How many right-wingers are cheering for the rioters and looters? how many conservatives are putting out pallets of bricks and Molotov cocktails  to throw at policemen and into minority-owned businesses?

What the world need now is love sweet love. It is time to love you regardless. No more will allow Satan to cause me to lose the test. We all know the truth and it will conqueror falseness so why argue back and forth? TRUTH IS JUSTICE, IT IS PEACE, IT IS LOVE AND DARKNESS CANNOT STAND UP TO TRUTH. IT WILL SHINE IT WILL BE VICTORIOUS, IT IS ALSO LIKE A TWO EDGE SWORD AND IT CONVICTS THE HEART AND MIND OF THOSE WHO LOVE YAHWEH AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF YAHSHUA!

May YAHWEH bless you and give you peace, Joy and Happiness and may we all pas the test to receive the crown of Victory. In YAHSHA'S NAME! SO BE IT!

[B/W Photodude]

4 hours ago, phkrause said:

I could go on, but he just makes me more and more angry, just typing this, I can barely see the screen I'm so angry that this man is potus.

Bwahaha! And someone accused me of being angry. However, let's be constructive here. Try turning off CNN and their well documented history of fake news and your days may go a lot better!

4 hours ago, phkrause said:

He knew about this virus and said nothing, nada, nix, etc., etc. He even says how dangerous it is and yet he still down plays it. I've also notice how he stays away from everybody and always wondered about that, well now we know, he's more afraid of the virus than everybody else, how pathetic is that??????????

Again, more Democratic talking points. Trump was on it all the way back to January when he banned travel from China. He got trashed for it from media and Democrats, but now some are grudgingly admitting that that move probably saved tens of thousands of lives. 

Even in February, people like Pelosi, DeBlasio, and others were saying don't worry. Keep on what you are doing. Well, we know how that worked out for New York. And then the Democratic leaders put recovering covid patients into nursing homes. That was devastating to the elderly population of New York. Nevermind that there was a military hospital ship in the New York harbor that was barely used. And never mind that they virtually chased out a faith based tent hospital out of Central Park.

All that said, in a disaster of this nature, NO ONE will get every point fixed correctly. That is the nature of disasters and pandemics. However, the Democrats could have been more team players in this situation.

You also cannot with any straight face really make the claim that Donald Trump is more afraid of the virus than anyone else. 

4 hours ago, phkrause said:

Having lived in NYC we know exactly what a non human he is, him and his father would go into neighborhoods and get the minorities to give up there homes making them believe that they would have new homes, etc., and than donald and his father would redo that neighborhood and price it out of reach for those people so they couldn't move back into there own neighborhood!!!

I suspect that this situation you desctibe is not entirely accurate. What is believed is that New York was a mess, and for sure, Donald Trump has left his mark on the city in many ways in terms of developing housing and other buildings. However, you act like he is the only one who has ever done such a thing. Even Portland Oregon, with it largely very liberal city government has done the very same thing. The black neighborhood has largely become gentrified and many poorer blacks can now not even afford to live in the city. Many have been displace twenty miles away in Hillsboro, Oregon and have to spend on hour or more on the train to get into the city to work. This is not a Donald Trump problem. 

Long before Donald Trump stamped his name in gold on buildings around the world, posted snarky midnight tweets and joined the race for the White House, he was New York’s most important and bravest real-estate developer.

Whatever you think about his political views or crazy campaign, Trump doesn’t get enough credit for being a transformative planner who is in love with the city.

https://nypost.com/2016/02/07/how-donald-trump-helped-save-new-york-city/

If it was a serious problem, how do you explain the vast increases of support from the black community? How do you explain that unemployment under Donald Trump has been at all time lows in the black community, among Hispanics, and among women?

Four years ago, candidate Donald Trump’s pitch to African Americans heading to voting booths was simple: “What do you have to lose?”

While he captured just 8 percent of the black vote in 2016, recent polls suggest things could be different this time around.

In November, an Emerson poll reported a 34.5 percent approval rating among black voters, and a January Gallup poll reported a 14 percent increase in satisfaction over race relations among Americans.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/29/why-these-black-new-yorkers-are-voting-for-trump-in-2020/

And how does a "racist accomplish this:

Imagine that! An award for his contributions to inner city black youth along Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali also receiving awards.

[stinsonmarri]

On 9/20/2020 at 6:29 PM, B/W Photodude said:

                                        THE WAY OF LOVE
 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not love, I am nothing.  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profiteth me nothing.   Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunted not itself, is not puffed up,  Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;  Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.  Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.  And now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love. 1Co 13:1-13 

I love you blessings!?

[stinsonmarri]

11 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

https://nypost.com/2020/02/29/why-these-black-new-yorkers-are-voting-for-trump-in-2020/

And how does a "racist accomplish this:

Imagine that! An award for his contributions to inner city black youth along Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali also receiving awards.

 Trump was among the first group of Americans to be given the award, which recognized people from a variety of ethnic backgrounds who have made significant contributions to the country, Otto Coca, communications director for the Ellis Island Honors Society told The Associated Press Monday. But Trump was honored for his work as a successful developer in New York City and his German heritage, Coca said, not for helping inner city youth. The Associated Press

A claim circulating on social media misrepresents an award given to President Donald Trump in 1986. He was not honored for his “work within the black community.”

Instead, the Ellis Island Medal of Honor was given to Trump, who was a real estate developer at the time, for his contributions to the city of New York through his development projects, said Otto Coca, spokesman for the Ellis Island Honors Society. That’s the group that gives the award. FactCheck.org

Trump won the Ellis Island Medal of Honor in 1986 for professional contributions that benefited New York City as a real estate developer, as well as for his German heritage.

Facebook post, Sept. 10, 2019

PolitiFact, Trump’s Ellis Island award was not for work ‘within the black community’, July 19, 2019. PolitiFact

Truth will always stand up for untruth!

Blessings by the name calling wannabe Historian!

[stinsonmarri]

On 9/19/2020 at 1:55 PM, Theophilus said:

I read somewhere that "Do not cast your pearls before swine" is not a cut.  It's your opinion, your belief.  Whose pearls are they? Yours. Now if it said "Do not cast God's pearls before swine", then that is different.

About the right wing/ left wing, I believe Chris Wray said that more problems were caused by the right. 

 

Once again, Antifa means anti fascist. I don't see anything wrong with that. And as for BLM, there are some  extremists just like there are in the right. 

And while Stinson Marri got on a soapbox, and proceeded to vent, you need to realize that you vent, too. You come across as just as angry, if not angrier,  as she.

The difference is, she owns it.

Theophilus: I truly don't want to vent but it is sad the things they say. It always about abortion, that isall they talked about. Yet, they don't see they are killing live children at the border. Locking them up in to cages like animals. Then Photodude is screaming about the Adventistan that I should be condemn but he can say what he please and fume hatred. It is sad to me! What is worst these Adventist had this hatred about me and color folks all along. Trump rhetoric did not make them hate, they already had it in their hearts. He just brought it out! They want to say that this forum is ruin and now they want to run. Why? Because I stood up to them and they could not tear me down. If they would stay off the subject of Trump I would. He is showing on this forum what they truly had hidden in their heart. They are angry and want to run because they can stand that someone is showing what they truly are you know like looking in a mirror. They run but they can't hide, because if they don't change they will be crying for the rocks to fall on them! Why? They will rather be killed then to face the WRATH of THE LAMB. Rev 6:16, 17 They are not running from me because I have no power. They are running from YAHWEH because what they have become is showing up! It is guilt! If you are not wrong why run what are you afraid of? What make so vicious that you defend someone who think you are disgusting? I just want them to stop harping on abortions when they are murdering little children and locking them up in cages because of their color!

Blessing but truly sad!

[B/W Photodude]

On 9/21/2020 at 7:28 PM, stinsonmarri said:

Photodude: I love you and I will continue to pray for you. We are living in the days and my test is you. I will not be harsh anymore ... You would not say the things you say but because you are an angry man.

 

You frequently say things like this and then buried somewhere there is a spike!

1 hour ago, stinsonmarri said:

Yet, they don't see they are killing live children at the border. Locking them up in to cages like animals. Then Photodude is screaming about the Adventistan that I should be condemn but he can say what he please and fume hatred. It is sad to me! What is worst these Adventist had this hatred about me and color folks all along. Trump rhetoric did not make them hate, they already had it in their hearts.

This again is part of the Democrats false narrative. First of all, "children" locked in cages was an Obama creation. Trump inherited that from a corrupt Democrat president. And many of these "children" were not children but older teenagers, often times criminals, coming to feed on Americans. Consider MS-13. I rest my case!

Your "kind" words of your earlier post (quoted above) sure didn't last! Reminds me of a drunk who swears as they come down off a drunk that they will never drink again. Get sober and it is right back to the bottle!

I am not an angry man and I do not scream. I am just very saddened to see the level of malevolent hatred for our President and by extension the hatred even for Adventists who do not buy into the leftist agenda for this President, Christianity, and anything decent and who will also attempt to destroy anyone who gets in their way.

BTW, please quantify how many "live children" have been killed at the border.

[JoeMo]

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.(Gal. 5:19-26)

[BlessedMan]

Jesus here refers to a class who have no desire to escape from the slavery of sin. By indulgence in the corrupt and vile their natures have become so degraded that they cling to the evil and will not be separated from it. The servants of Christ should not allow themselves to be hindered by those who would make the gospel only a matter of contention and ridicule.  {MB 129.1} 

[stinsonmarri]

10 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

You frequently say things like this and then buried somewhere there is a spike!

This again is part of the Democrats false narrative. First of all, "children" locked in cages was an Obama creation. Trump inherited that from a corrupt Democrat president. And many of these "children" were not children but older teenagers, often times criminals, coming to feed on Americans. Consider MS-13. I rest my case!

Your "kind" words of your earlier post (quoted above) sure didn't last! Reminds me of a drunk who swears as they come down off a drunk that they will never drink again. Get sober and it is right back to the bottle!

I am not an angry man and I do not scream. I am just very saddened to see the level of malevolent hatred for our President and by extension the hatred even for Adventists who do not buy into the leftist agenda for this President, Christianity, and anything decent and who will also attempt to destroy anyone who gets in their way.

BTW, please quantify how many "live children" have been killed at the border.

Sad to say Joe, that was not coming from a Democrat that was coming from a person you call your sister in THE MOST HIGH! There will be no parties in Heaven or in the New Jerusalem. Your hatred because of my views is also very sad. I have a right to my choice as you have a right to yours. The problem is when you push your religious views on others. How many time have I heard Adventist preach about religious freedom? How many times have I seen you write about it is wrong for the Protestants and the Papacy to force us to keep Sunday? However, the Bible does not state that but if it did then your views of abortion and homosexual would have merit. It doesn't!

You cannot continue to play this game, I have the letters in my email that you and I talked and how you did not like how Trump spoke. Who are you to keep people from coming to this land? Your ancestors did who came to any part of North America that also includes Canada! Your ancestors came with evil content and took the Indians land. They were given blankets with small pox and they saw that the Indians would easy become alcoholic's. You all make it like you are better then other people. You accuse BLM because two of the woman who started it are homosexuals. Homosexual is a sin but just like with people keeping Sunday we must with kindness show that they are doing wrong. Stop judging the Bible say don't judge or you will indeed be judge. Are you saved yet? Have you been sealed?

None of us live in a glass house, the Bible said we all have sinned. YAHWEH does not force you to change, neither does THE HOLY SPIRIT. I would love for you and Photodue to show in the Bible that you have the right to force anyone to obey your belief! Just show me! 

Trump did not have some magic wand nor or you in a occult. That too is wrong. What's in your heart or your mind it was already their. It just took someone like Trump to bring it out. I know because of the things you said in your comments about the Canaanites. You want to refuse that YAHWEH came to them first. Well Melchizedek was the only High Priest mention in the order of YAHSHUA, he was one of the Canaanites tribe called the Jebusite. Jerusalem was build even before him and Salem was nice abbreviation that if you look it up it is Jerusalem! He was not Shem the myth that is told or anyone else but a Black man. 

Then the lie about Ham being a homosexual, the Scriptures is very clear. Ham and his brothers was outside the tent. Canaan was inside and that is why Ham went inside. Canaan was his baby boy and it appeared he was laughing at his grandfather being naked. There were no clothes inside the tent to cover Noah. Ham call for his two older brothers. The Bible clearly states they got a robe came backward and covered their father. When Noah woke up it was Canaan he curse. Canaan would never rule his brothers, he and his children would always served them double portion. The word servant is to serve, YAHSHUA said HE IS A SERVANT. Canaan also had to pay tribute to his brothers. Now he only had to serve his uncles not pay tributes to them. All the Asian people are from Ham. The Turks are not! That is why the language is Afrasian because it is trace back to Afrika!

Why, I refuse to get with you and others with any type unkind hatred war is because that is not what YAHWEH wants. I do not hate you, Photodue or the Republican Party. I don't even hate Trump. I do hate his character and how he lies and cause over 2000 deaths. I hate that he thinks you and the Republican people who follow him are disgusting and now he does not have to shake your hand. I hate that you cannot see that he down plays the mask, yet all those who sit behind have to wear one. Why is that? In the audience most don't have one on. Remember it is a hoax! I hate how he treats his children. I am sadden by your character because I have seen you change since we first started commented in this forum. We were friends and that is what hurts me the most, I've lost your friendship over views that are not Bible base. No where in the Bible does it say that we must force people to obey our false religious views.

They are false because the Bible says do not hate your brother or sister. We are NOT IsraEL of old! YAHWEH told them to go and destroy the Canaanites and they didn't do all that HE said to do! YAHWEH also used heathen nations to destroy Jerusalem twice and there will be third and final time. The beast will destroy the city and a messenger will cast a millstone for it to sink into the sea. Jerusalem is Babylon who has killed the prophets and the apostles!

Finally, let me say this to you. I love you but I will tell you when you are against YAHWEH and HIS WORD! If you want to become indifference that is on you. If you want to spue out ugly hateful words against people who you personally know nothing about that is between YAHWEH and you. If you feel that you are self righteous to put children in cages and then cry about abortion again you have to stand before YAHWEH and prove and explain it. If you want to attack gays people but not adulterers also people who do the same thing as homosexual do which is oral sex (that the Bible says it is just as sinful. Have you read Rom Chapter 1 you should!) Many Evangelic do threesomes and sneak around being with men the Bible says that is unseemly. Do you know what unnatural use mean? Read how you are suppose to have relationship in Gen Chapter 1 only the way you make a baby. Find in the Bible that you suppose to do it any other way! I know the Bible says to take the moat out of your eyes before you get the beam out of someone else. I repeat sin is sin if break any you will be lost. Change your life and then pray for the sinner! We all need prayer. My heart is sadden for you and for Photodue. Blessed man I feel he is indecisive. We were friends too but angry can make one change. Photodue and I have never really seen eye to eye on many things. Some comments I have agreed with him over the years. But he judges everyone else but don't see himself. That is sad! Well I love you Joe also Photodude and good ole Blessed man. I want us all to pass the test and be save. I will stand to tell you what the Bible says because that is what we should stand on!

Blessings to you all with love wannabe historian (I kinda like it)!

[stinsonmarri]

On 9/17/2020 at 10:51 AM, JoeMo said:

In biblical context,  wickedness and lawlessness are opposition to God's Law.  God says homosexual activity is wrong; the world increasingly says it's okay.  The world says murder is wrong; but 60 million unborn babies are murdered every year.  God says fornication and adultery is wrong; but it seems to be par for the course in western civilization. God says the family is the basic unit of civilization.  Antifa and BLM want to break up families. 

Where is the proof the Antifa and BLM are trying to break up families Joe? This is so sad because it is not true at all. Did you hear last night that you rich boy, who is going to clean out the swamp that again he has being lying to you. He has been cheating on his taxes. He only paid $750 since being president and the gifts he poured out to his daughter, hiding money! Oh, he pays more taxes to foreign countries then he does to let's see his suppose to make America great again! What a joke. Now, if you want to have Trump as a family man that is truly sad. He has broke up his family with three different women. Each wife he cheated on now that's breaking up a family if I ever saw it. That's a fact. Finally, he has his wives to sign a nuptial agreement because he loses hundreds and millions of money like water. Let's talk about that and please prove your remarks. He is no where near being a billionaire. Taxes do not lie, this is his and not fake news. The garbage about BLM is truly fake propaganda because it is not even news! Prayer is truly needed!

Blessings, the wanna be Historian!