hobie Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Well, looks like we are coming to the 'Image' of the Beast as Trump is filling his administration with not just Catholics, but some much more intense if not fervent Catholics coming into leadership positions. Trump, who was raised as a Presbyterian but was Jesuit trained now considers himself non-denominational, but has a Catholic cabinet basically with a Catholic vice president JD Vance, and a name that polarizes, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Health and Human Services Secretary to say nothing of the leadership in the Senate and Congress. Now with the military might backing it, its only a matter of time before the Image of the Beast begins to force nations to do its bidding, or has that started already. Seems like we are getting into that cycle... Quote
Joe Knapp Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Don't forget the supreme court. Every nominee on his list was a Catholic. Catholics make up 26% of the American public. Quote
hobie Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 On 3/21/2026 at 2:54 PM, Joe Knapp said: Don't forget the supreme court. Every nominee on his list was a Catholic. Catholics make up 26% of the American public. 'Jumping Jehosaphat', I almost forgot about the Supreme Court and the religious makeup.. Currently, there are five Catholics, three Jews, and one unknown on the bench. The Catholics are chief justice John Roberts, and justices Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, and Sonia Sotomayor. The Jewish justices are Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer, and Elena Kagan. The latest to join the high court, Neil Gorsuch, who seems to be either non-denominational or doesnt want to specify. Quote
hobie Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 So the next step is for the image of the Beast to begin telling the 'kings and nations' of the world how and what they must do... Oil prices rise after Trump issues ultimatum and Iran threatens to close the Strait of Hormuz indefinitely Trump issues chilling 48-hour Iran ultimatum and vows to 'obliterate' key sites Trump gives Iran 48-hour ultimatum to reopen Strait of Hormuz or face ‘obliteration’ of power infrastructure | The Independent Trump threatens to strike Iran power plants in 48 hours over Strait of Hormuz | Fox News Iran strikes near Israeli nuclear research center as Trump threatens attacks on Iranian power plants - POLITICO And we are already getting closer to the exclamations of 'Peace and Safety' that comes before the 'Sudden Destruction'... Quote
Joe Knapp Posted March 24 Posted March 24 Justices by Religion Justice Religion John Roberts (Chief Justice) Catholicism Clarence Thomas Catholicism Samuel Alito Catholicism Sonia Sotomayor Catholicism Elena Kagan Judaism Neil Gorsuch Anglicanism/Catholicism Brett Kavanaugh Catholicism Amy Coney Barrett Catholicism Ketanji Brown Jackson Protestantism Quote
Joe Knapp Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Pres Trump has given Iran another 10 days. Difficult to tell if there are real negotiations going on. The Iranian officials I have seen on YT are less than truthful. It is clear to me that Russia and China are helping Iran. It has now become a proxy war against the USA by Russia and China. I have seen many experts on YouTube saying this war is a big mistake. They should just stop and pull out. That if they send troops in, it will be just like Vietnam. Total nonsense. The topology, vegetation, people, government, weapons are completely different. None of those people know the bible prophecy as we do. I am not in favor of the war. I think many mistakes have been made and continue to be made. But, like hobie, I believe the beast is being formed. Possibly the USA needs to be portrayed as an underdog in the fight, or incompetent. I don't know. But the outcome is sure in my mind. I wish it was not. I wish it would all just stop. Quote
hobie Posted April 14 Author Posted April 14 Well, the whole world is hanging on to see what this 'image' will do or declare it appears... Quote
Moderators Kevin H Posted April 15 Moderators Posted April 15 I don't say automatically the amount of Catholics. There are/were many Catholics who understand the difference between the Catholic office holder, and the American office holder who happens to worship in the Roman Catholic church. What scares me is the number, both Catholic and Protestant, who does NOT know this difference. The issue is liberty of conscience, office holders who respect this in their choices I support no matter where they worship or don't worship. But we are finding too many are being put in office who do not realize this difference. The dragon in Revelation 12 is first of all the devil and direct demonic activity, and their first lie that God is not God and does not have a right to place a law over us. We are all demigods and have our own truth and that the final authority is not God and God's law that we grow towards and set as a goal to travel towards, but our own subjective dispensationa experience are our own personal truths and thus our own final authority. Spiritualism/Despensationalism, where we exalt our subjective, dispensational experience. On a second level it can represent secularism, which reaches to the religion of the French Revolution that evolved into Napoleon and then into Marxism. A counterfeit Holy Spirit. In a lot of ways the beast is the opposit of the dragon. In it's largest sence it is any orginazation that replaces Christ in our lives. A counterfeit God the Father, where we submit our subject, existencial experience to this counterfeit authority. The true trinity has a oneness between an outside ultamate truth but where the God of ultamate objective truth workes with us individually with our subjective experience. The lamblike beast in the fullest sense are us as individuals dealing with the dragon and beast and the true Lamb influencing our lives and making choices. On a second level, we have a version of Christianity focused on the individual, Protestantism, and out of this grew a country based on the individual, the United States of America, a very christlike nation but dragonlike in how we treated the natives and very beastlike in how we tolerated slavery; but had an initial goal to go towards the Lamb. However, the Bible predicts this ends up speaking as a dragon (secularism) but then forms an image to the beast (controling government sticking it's nose where it does not belong and using government to enforce religion.) those who have the mark of the beast in their foreheads are those who really believe that the government has gotten too secular and we need to restore proper religion. Sadly, too many, not only Catholics, but also Protestants want to make this change. Those who accept it in their right hands are those who don't like this control and enforced religion, but sees it as to their existential advantage to go along with it. I think that Biden understands the difference between being a Catholic office holder, and an American office holder who happens to worship in the United States. Yet, his first way of helping Ukraine was by setting into places that limits how people can buy and sell. We have been finding this economic control even growing more. With the uniting the world through economic cooperation, gaining more control over individual lives and bias, comming up with excuses for pushing and crossing the line of dicency, including, making excuses for the picture dressed as Jesus. (the picture dressed as the Pope tends to go along with what we are finding in our current politics). Putting people who want to use their office to set up their religion scares me. phkrause 1 Quote
Joe Knapp Posted April 17 Posted April 17 I am also deeply concerned about Surveillance. surveillance noun [ U ] the careful watching of a person or place, especially by the police or army, because of a crime that has happened or is expected: The police have kept the nightclub under surveillance because of suspected illegal drug activity. More banks are now installing surveillance cameras. ----------------- Quote
hobie Posted April 18 Author Posted April 18 19 hours ago, Joe Knapp said: I am also deeply concerned about Surveillance. surveillance noun [ U ] the careful watching of a person or place, especially by the police or army, because of a crime that has happened or is expected: The police have kept the nightclub under surveillance because of suspected illegal drug activity. More banks are now installing surveillance cameras. ----------------- While we were in Cuba visiting with some of our brethren, we went to have Friday night vespers. We had all the extended family and cousins and nephews and nieces, etc... But I kept seeing this one person that I couldnt quite place. So I asked who she was, and in hushed tones they told me she is the 'neighborhood block captain', the guardian of the Communist government rules and regulations. They told me not to speak on the porch or street or show in anyway a disdain or resistance against the power that is... Quote
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