hobie Posted June 27 Posted June 27 Many say the changes of the NIV don't make any difference, but I came across the following discussion. "As you no doubt know, the critical text uses Nestle-Aland 27th ed with variant readings. Nestle-Aland relies primarily on, guess which two manuscripts? Sinaiticus and Vaticanus! What is TRULY amazing is that Westcott and Hort are now considered to be comparatively accurate! More so than the Received Text (TR) As for the NIV, it does massacre the text in some important areas, regardless of which manuscripts are relied on. One example is Hebrews 9, where the NIV changes 'holy place' to 'Most Holy Place.' Also, Colossians 2,'sabbaths' to 'a Sabbath day.' Etc." "Hebrews 9 says that Christ entered the 'greater and more perfect tabernacle . . .' and that He entered the Holy Place. v. 12 says that Christ entered the Holy Place, ta hagia, not the Most Holy Place, hagia haggiwn. The NIV, along with Desmond Ford, have attempted to change that. In vv. 24ff, it says He sacrificed Himself. But your best clue is found in what you yourself have said. His stated work was 'to make intercession for us.' That is the distinctive ministry of the courtyard and the Holy Place. The work in the Most Holy Place was a work of judgment....Heb. 9 specifies that Christ entered ta hagia, the holy place, as opposed to hagia haggiwn. Christ's ministry as our intercessor occurs in the holy place, within the veil. That is what began shortly after his ascension. " and there are more changes that affect doctrine and the changes also affect the New King James version, here is a good article to go over... "Let us look at the two Bible versions most in use by Protestantism, the NIV and the NKJV, and compare them with the Authorized King James Bible to see if they are in harmony with these divine, irrevocable criteria established by God Himself. THE SABBATH KING JAMES BIBLE 'But the seventh day is THE Sabbath of the Lord Thy God' Exodus 20:10. This is speaking of a definite and particular day of the week, which we know refers to Saturday, the seventh day of the week on the calendar. NIV VERSION 'But the seventh day is A Sabbath to the Lord your God...' Exodus 20:10. By substituting the definite 'the' for an indefinite 'a,' this takes the emphasis of any particular day and leaves one free to choose any day of the week as 'a' 'Sabbath day'a subtle attack by Satan on God's holy Sabbath day. THE DEVIL KING JAMES BIBLE 'By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I WILL DESTROY THEE, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire...Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic: therefore WILL I BRING FORTH A FIRE from the midst of thee, IT SHALL DEVOUR THEE, and I WILL BRING THEE TO ASHES UPON THE EARTH in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people SHALL BE ASTONISHED at thee: THOU SHALT BE A TERROR AND NEVER SHALT THOU BE ANY MORE.' Ezekiel 28:16, 18,19. Here, the King James Bible clearly speaks of a FUTURE judgment to fall upon Satan. NIV VERSION 'Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. [verse stops here]..By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. So I MADE A FIRE COME OUT FROM YOU, AND IT CONSUMED YOU, and I REDUCED YOU TO ASHES ON THE GROUND in the sight of all who were watching. All the nations who knew you ARE APPALLED AT YOU: YOU HAVE COME TO A HORRIBLE END AND WILL BE NO MORE.' Ezekiel 28: 16,18,19. NEW KING JAMES VERSION 'By the abundance of your trading you became filled with violence within, and you sinned; Therefore I cast you as a profane thing out of the mountain of God; an[ I DESTROYED YOU, O covering cherub, from the midst of the fiery stones. You defiled your sanctuaries by the multitude of your iniquities, by the iniquity of your trading; Therefore I BROUGHT FIRE FROM YOUR MIDST; IT DEVOURED YOU, AND I TURNED YOU TO ASHES UPON THE EARTH in the sight of all who saw you, All who knew you among the peoples are astonished at you; YOU HAVE BECOME A HORROR, AND SHALL BE NO MORE FOREVER.' Ezekiel 28: 26,18,19. Both the NIV and the NKJV present this event as something already done and in the past in direct contrast to the KJV, and in direct contradiction to Revelation 20:10 which states that the devil will be cast into the lake of fire after the 1000 year millennium. Which version manifests the Spirit of truth, and which shows that it comes from the father of lies? THE SANCTUARY/1844 KING JAMES BIBLE: 'Neither by the blood of goats and calves, buy by His own blood He entered in once INTO THE HOLY PLACE, having obtained eternal redemption for us.' Hebrews 9:12. In accordance with Advent truth, this verse harmonizes with the Sanctuary message that Christ did not enter the Most Holy Place until 1844. NIV VERSION 'He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but HE ENTERED THE MOST HOLY PLACE once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption.' Hebrews 9:12 NEW KING JAMES VERSION 'Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood HE ENTERED THE MOST HOLY PLACE once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.' Hebrews 9:12. Both of these versions attack the Advent message pillar of 1844 by indicating that Christ went into the Most Holy place at His ascension. THE STATE OF THE DEAD KING JAMES BIBLE 'The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment TO BE PUNISHED.' 2 Peter 2:9. This verse clearly tells us that the unjust will not receive their punishment until after they have been judged. NIV VERSION 'If this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, WHILE CONTINUING THEIR PUNISHMENT.' 2 Peter 2: 9. NEW KING JAMES VERSION 'Then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly our of temptations and to reserve the unjust UNDER PUNISHMENT for the day of judgment.' 2 Peter 2: 9. Both of these versions give credence to the Roman Catholic doctrine of purgatory. 3 ANGELS MESSAGE/RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH KING JAMES BIBLE 'Because STRAIT is the gate, and NARROW IS THE WAY, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.' Matthew 7:14. NEW KING JAMES VERSION 'Because NARROW is the gate, and DIFFICULT IS THE WAY which leads to life, and there are few who find it.' Matthew 7:14. Here the NKJV not only changes 'strait' to 'narrow,' but replaces 'narrow' with 'difficult.' The implication of this is that if something is difficult you just try 'just work a little harder and you'll eventually make it', or in other words, Righteousness by WORKS, not Righteousness by FAITH which is the 3 Angel's message in surety. A teaching of Divine truth, or satanic falsehood? THE HOLY SPIRIT KING JAMES BIBLE 'Do ye think that the Scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?' James 4:5. This verse speaks of the yearnings and desires of the carnal nature. NEW KING JAMES VERSION 'Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, 'The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously?' James 4:5. By substituting Spirit for spirit this version declares that the Holy Spirit leads one to sin. Again, is this blasphemous substitution indicative of holy inspiration or satanic manipulation? CONCLUSION Nine of the 'scholars' that produced the NKJV were also on the translation committee of the NIV. Is it not reasonable then to suppose that their attitudes, their opinions, their beliefs were no different when they translated the NKJV than when the produced the NIV? The NKJV makes over 100,000 word changes from the KJV, and though they claim that it's a superior and more accurate translation they state: 'It was the editor's conviction that the use of footnotes would encourage further inquiry by readers. They also recognized that it was easier for the average reader to delete something he or she felt was not properly a part of the text, than to insert a word or phrase which had been left out by the revisers.' [The New King James Bible, 1982, Study Edition, The History of the King James Bible. P. 1235] Here the editors of the NKJV are encouraging anyone and everyone to delete something he or she felt was not properly a part of the text. So if you are reading along and you run across something you don't FEEL should be a part of the text, just delete it!!! A candid revelation of the true spirituality of these men and by the way, other than the name, the NEW King James Bible has nothing to do with the King James Bible. That was a clever and extremely successful marketing ploy to sell more Bibles. If the publishers would have named it, for example, the New Thomas Nelson Edition of the Bible, it's very doubtful that as many would have been sold. The supplied verses prove that the NIV attacks three of Adventism's pillars, the Sabbath, the State of the Dead, and the Sanctuary...."http://omega77.tripod.com/cs1gettingtobot.htm and the changes aren't just on doctrine... SOME OMISSIONS & DELETIONS IN THE NIV BIBLE THESE CAN BE SEEN IN MOST VERSIONS AS WELL, EXCEPT THE King James Version 1. NIV in Luke 11:2-4 omits key parts of the LORD'S PRAYER. 2. NIV, in Isaiah 14:12 blasphemes CHRIST by putting Him in the place of Lucifer (devil). 3. NIV in Micah 5:2 says Christ has an ORIGIN, wrongly making Him a CREATED being. 4. NIV in Romans 1:29 omits FORNICATION from the sins listed with sodomy. 5. NIV in Exodus 20:10 & Colossians 2:14 attacks on the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH. 6. NIV in Ephesians 3:9 removes Christ from being CREATOR. 7. NIV in Revelation 22:14 attacks on COMMANDMENT KEEPING. 8. NIV in I John 5:7, 8 denies the TRINITY and DEITY of CHRIST. 9. NIV in Revelation 12:17 attacks on the REMNANT CHURCHS IDENTITY. 10. NIV in Daniel 8:14 & Hebrews 9:3-4 attacks on the SANCTUARY DOCTRINE. 11. NIV in Matthew 28:20 & Matthew 24:3 PROMOTES NEW AGE MOVEMENT. 12. NIV omits FASTING 5 times, and weakens PRAYER LIFE 3 times (Matthew 17:21). 13. NIV 178 KEY portions of verses are deleted (example Matthew 20:16). 14. NIV 17 ESSENTIAL verses are completely omitted (example Matthew 18:11). 15. NIV omits names of JESUS 38 times, CHRIST 43 times, LORD 35 times, GOD 31 times and OTHER NAMES OF GOD 26 times. Therefore, total names 173 times.... Study on Daniel and Revelation Chapters - Page 9 A Quote
Rahab Posted June 28 Posted June 28 To stop and confuse the reformation movement, omissions and changes were made in the English bible. Quote
hobie Posted July 2 Author Posted July 2 On 6/28/2026 at 6:57 PM, Rahab said: To stop and confuse the reformation movement, omissions and changes were made in the English bible. The bad part is it spread even into the New King James version and is being given to young people in the church to wipe out these doctrines of Adventist truth. Check what you Pathfinders are reading..... Quote
Hanseng Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Not a difficult problem to solve. Check numerous versions. Compare them. Look at the context. Unless you have knowledge of Greek to the point of being a textual critic, you are wading into waters way over your head. Even those who are fluent in the original languages can't agree on what the best translation is; consequently, we have so many versions. No Christian doctrine is dependent upon a single text. Some versions, such as the KJV, were intended for public reading; therefore, the translators sometimes chose different English words to translate the same Greek word because it sounded better. This is problematic for serious Bible study. Benjamin Wilkinson created a lot of confusion in SDA land. Jim Arrabito, a great artist and a gracious individual popularized Wilkinson's work in more modern times. The NT writers, including Jesus, quoted almost exclusively from the Greek Old Testament, which is mostly preserved in the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus. There are passages you can read in English translations of the Greek Old Testament which are very different from other English versions. Make things easy for yourselves. Use a KJV and compare it with the NRSV, NASB, ESV, and whatever other translations you like. Depend on the Holy Spirit to lead you into the truth after you have done your best. phkrause 1 Quote
Asia Joe Posted July 11 Posted July 11 On 7/3/2026 at 2:54 PM, Hanseng said: Not a difficult problem to solve. Check numerous versions. Compare them. Look at the context. Quote This seems to be the best way. phkrause 1 Quote
Hanseng Posted July 11 Posted July 11 3 hours ago, Asia Joe said: This seems to be the best way. The Online Bible has proven very useful for Bible study. The basic version is free. Add-on Bible versions are available for a reasonable price. Several Bible versions, including Hebrew and various Greek Bibles are available are free. You can view several versions with just the click of a mouse. Also includes excellent search capabilities based on numbers or the original languages. Online Bible Base Pack, version 6.22, , OLBBPENG phkrause 1 Quote
Hanseng Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Try Onlinebible.net for a better download with more options. phkrause 1 Quote
hobie Posted July 18 Author Posted July 18 On 7/3/2026 at 2:54 AM, Hanseng said: Not a difficult problem to solve. Check numerous versions. Compare them. Look at the context. Unless you have knowledge of Greek to the point of being a textual critic, you are wading into waters way over your head. Even those who are fluent in the original languages can't agree on what the best translation is; consequently, we have so many versions. No Christian doctrine is dependent upon a single text. Some versions, such as the KJV, were intended for public reading; therefore, the translators sometimes chose different English words to translate the same Greek word because it sounded better. This is problematic for serious Bible study. Benjamin Wilkinson created a lot of confusion in SDA land. Jim Arrabito, a great artist and a gracious individual popularized Wilkinson's work in more modern times. The NT writers, including Jesus, quoted almost exclusively from the Greek Old Testament, which is mostly preserved in the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus. There are passages you can read in English translations of the Greek Old Testament which are very different from other English versions. Make things easy for yourselves. Use a KJV and compare it with the NRSV, NASB, ESV, and whatever other translations you like. Depend on the Holy Spirit to lead you into the truth after you have done your best. Well, I try to make it easy for my sabbath school class. I tell them to look up this verse and if its not in their Bible, then it comes from a corrupt line.. Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Quote
Hanseng Posted July 18 Posted July 18 13 minutes ago, hobie said: Here is a good explanation of the issue.. Sorry but i can't watch the video. What issue are you referring to? sorry but 13 minutes ago, hobie said: Quote
hobie Posted July 18 Author Posted July 18 This is the text... https://archive.org/details/sda-walter-veith-213-battle-of-the-bibles_202301/page/n1/mode/2up Quote
Hanseng Posted July 18 Posted July 18 17 minutes ago, hobie said: This is the text Sorry, that link is blocked. Anyway, if the "issue" has to do with the NIV being a bad version, I'll keep that in mind. My wife and I read it together [gospel of John] most nights. We have both been blessed by the reading. For study purposes, I use the KJV,ESV, NRSV, NASB, and YLT, consult the OL for word meanings and word range. The Online Bible has proved to be a real blessing for study, providing all of the above plus many more with just the click of a mouse. phkrause 1 Quote
hobie Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago Here is a interesting description of the issue I just came across.. "The Christian faith stands or falls upon the authority of the Word of God. Faithful Christians should therefore never treat the Bible as merely another ancient document to be reconstructed according to changing theories of scholars or society. “Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy word is truth” (John 17:17). The Word of God is the foundation of our faith, doctrine, worship, salvation, educational pedagogy, science, and business practice. This is why the rise of higher criticism and the modern critical-text movement deserves serious scrutiny. In particular, Christians should examine the textual theories associated with Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort, whose 1881 Greek New Testament helped establish a radically different approach as the textual basis underlying all modern English translations. The concern is not as simple as newer translations use more readily understood English in comparison to the Early Modern English used in the King James Version. The deeper issue is the Greek text upon which they are based and the assumptions used to reconstruct it. Westcott and Hort rejected the traditional dominance of the Received Text and elevated a comparatively small group of manuscripts, particularly Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, while developing theories of textual criticism that profoundly influenced subsequent generations. This raises an important spiritual question: What influences shaped the manuscripts, textual traditions, and interpretive assumptions that have increasingly displaced the traditional Received Text? Some Christian scholars have raised concerns about similarities between certain readings in the Alexandrian textual tradition and theological tendencies associated with Gnosticism. Gnosticism radically distorts biblical teaching concerning Christ, His incarnation, His humanity, His divinity, and salvation. Christians should therefore be cautious whenever disputed readings diminish, qualify, or omit passages that have historically testified to foundational doctrines concerning the deity, incarnation, blood, and saving work of Jesus Christ. As one example, the New Revised Standard Version, in Isaiah 7:14 says, “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son and shall name him Immanuel.” There is a vast difference between a young woman and a virgin. Many young women in all ages have found themselves with child due to one sexual encounter with a young man outside of wedlock. Parlance matters. There is another concern that deserves attention. Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus, two manuscripts that have exercised enormous influence upon modern textual criticism, disagree with one another in more than 3,000 places in the Gospels. The extent of their differences should cause Christians to consider carefully why these manuscripts have been given such extraordinary weight in reconstructing the New Testament text. There is also a prophetic concern. Many modern translations contain readings in Revelation that differ from the traditional wording in ways that can affect how readers understand the prophetic identification of wordly powers. The Protestant Reformers and Seventh-day Adventists have historically understood the beast power of Revelation 13 and related passages as pointing to the papacy and its opposition to God's law and truth. When modern translations weaken, alter, footnote, or omit wording traditionally used in studying these prophecies, Adventists should take notice. Several individuals associated with modern translation projects have had connections with Roman Catholic scholarship and ecumenical biblical scholarship. The historical relationship between modern textual criticism, ecumenical scholarship, and the growing rapprochement between Protestants and Rome therefore deserves careful examination. A translation that makes traditional prophetic distinctions less explicit can fit more comfortably within an ecumenical environment than the historic Protestant Bible, which generations of Protestants used in identifying apostasy and warning against papal claims. The cumulative effect of textual changes can contribute to a theological climate in which historic Protestant distinctions—including the identification of the papacy in prophecy—become increasingly blurred, softened, or forgotten. For Seventh-day Adventists, that should be a profound concern. We have been entrusted with the three angels' messages of Revelation 14, including the warning concerning Babylon. We should not permit our prophetic voice to become muted because the biblical language upon which generations of Adventists built their understanding has been progressively revised, qualified, or removed. This becomes especially important when we consider our children. Seventh-day Adventists have historically emphasized teaching children Scripture, memorizing Bible verses, learning doctrine, and hiding God's Word in their hearts. We teach memory gems. We teach fundamental beliefs. We teach the words of Jesus. We teach our children to build their lives upon Scripture. But when children are taught one wording of a biblical text and later encounter another translation that phrases it differently, brackets it, footnotes it, or omits it, confusion results. When doctrines are taught from numerous modern translations based upon evolving critical-text decisions, children may eventually wonder whether the words they memorized are permanent or continually subject to scholarly revision. Adventists should take this seriously. Our children should have confidence that when they open the Bible, they are encountering the Word of God—not merely the latest scholarly reconstruction of what scholars believe the original text may have said. The faithful Christian should therefore ask why we should abandon a textual tradition that served the church for centuries in favor of a modern reconstructed text dependent upon comparatively few manuscripts and theories developed by modern textual critics beginning in 1881, and subsequent critics who have by their own admission questioned the authenticity of the scriptures and their authors. The King James Version was translated from the Greek textual tradition commonly known as the Textus Receptus, or Received Text. It represents the textual tradition upon which the King James translators substantially relied. For more than four centuries, English-speaking Christians read this Bible, preached from it, memorized it, built their theology upon it, and carried its message around the world. The King James translators were not perfect, nor was their translation process inspired in the same sense as the original Scriptures. Yet their work represents translating exact words from Hebrew and Greek into English, not just the ideas being conveyed, and therefore deserves serious respect because they approached the Bible with reverence for its authority as THE word of God rather than treating it as a playground for speculative theories or general principles. “Every word of God is pure: He is a shield unto them that put their trust in Him” (Proverbs 30:5). Scripture warns: “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it” (Deuteronomy 4:2). That warning deserves consideration when passages found in the traditional Bible are bracketed, footnoted, questioned, or omitted in many modern translations. Examples include the longer ending of Mark, John 7:53–8:11, and the Trinitarian wording of 1 John 5:7. The issue is not simply why a modern translation differs, but what textual evidence and assumptions led scholars to remove or question wording that generations of Christians accepted as Scripture. Human scholarship must remain the servant of Scripture, not its master. Isaiah gives the standard: “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isaiah 8:20). Another danger is ecumenism. Christian unity is desirable only when it is unity in truth. Jesus prayed that His followers would be one, but His prayer was rooted in truth (John 17:17–21), not unity at the expense of truth. Paul warned, “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 6:14). This does not mean Christians should refuse to minister to unbelievers or welcome sincere seekers. Indeed, 1 Corinthians 14:23–25 specifically describes unbelievers entering the Christian assembly and being convicted by the preaching of God's Word. The distinction is vital: We welcome unbelievers to hear the truth; we do not permit unbelief to redefine the truth. Christian charity does not require doctrinal surrender. Cooperation in humanitarian matters does not require merging doctrines, institutions, or worship with those who reject fundamental biblical truth. John likewise warned against those who depart from the doctrine of Christ (2 John 9). Scripture repeatedly illustrates the danger of compromise. Israel was warned that association with paganism could turn hearts away from God (Deuteronomy 7:3–4). Nehemiah removed Tobiah from the temple chambers when sacred things had been compromised (Nehemiah 13:4–9). Revelation declares concerning Babylon, “Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins” (Revelation 18:4). Since 1979 the world has had an ecumenical Bible with the official stamp of the Vatican - Revised Standard Version. For Seventh-day Adventists, this should be taken seriously. Revelation describes God's faithful people as those “which keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus” (Revelation 14:12). We cannot faithfully proclaim the three angels' messages while allowing Babylonian, secularism, higher criticism, or doctrinal compromise to reshape our understanding of Scripture. Ultimately, the issue is authority. If the Bible is the Word of God, scholarship must remain its servant. If a theory conflicts with the testimony of Scripture, the theory—not Scripture—must be examined. Paul instructed believers to “prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Jude commanded Christians to “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” (Jude 3). The King James Bible should not be defended merely because it is old, familiar, or poetic. It should be defended because Christians have a solemn responsibility to preserve confidence in Scripture and resist influences that diminish its authority. We must not allow intellectual fashion to replace faith, ecumenical enthusiasm to replace biblical truth, or higher criticism to place human judgment above divine revelation. When the foundation is the Word of God, faithfulness requires that we guard the foundation. If this blessed you or caused you to think please follow for more inspiring content, then like and share to bless others." Quote
Hanseng Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Hobie, When you post quotes or summaries of other people's work, it would be helpful if you would site the source of the individuals you quote, whether it is an exact quote or not. Quote
hobie Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Hanseng said: Hobie, When you post quotes or summaries of other people's work, it would be helpful if you would site the source of the individuals you quote, whether it is an exact quote or not. Click on the unlined part... Here is a interesting description of the issue I just came across.. Quote
Hanseng Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Here is an example of why the KJV is less than perfect: Lu 5:6 And when they had this done, they inclosed <4788> a great multitude of fishes: and their net brake. Ro 11:32 For God hath concluded <4788> them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. Ga 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded <4788> all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. Ga 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up <4788> unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. This word #4788 is used four times in the NT. It is translated 3 different ways. In Galatians, even though the word is used in consecutive verses, it is translated with different words. Note here: Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. KJV Note the brackets. This is an interpretation / translation choice by the KJV translators, likely wrong, considering the context "So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came...." RSV, ESV NRSV. According to the revised versions, the law served until Christ came." In line with this, the following verse says we are no longer under the guardian/schoolmaster. The KJV ignores the idea that the Law served only until Christ came, even though the verse following indicates that as well. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ,.... KJV So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came.... RSV Quote
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