hobie Posted yesterday at 10:39 AM Author Posted yesterday at 10:39 AM 10 hours ago, Hanseng said: Here is the EGW passage in which, comparing the KJV and ERV, she described the ERV as the true version: "When Christ told Peter that unless he submitted to this service, he could have no part with him, Peter surrendered his pride and self will. This can never, never be. He was all broken up at the thought, and exclaimed, "Not my feet only, but also my hands and my head." Jesus had a lesson, deep, full, and significant: "He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all." The true version reads, "He that is bathed needeth not save to wash his feet." That lesson comprehended more than bodily cleansing." R&H July 5, 1898 I hope you understand. EGW called the version [ERV] based on the Wescott & Hort text the "true version" contra the KJV. John 13:10 Jesus saith to him, He that is bathed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all. ERV John 13:10 Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all. 11For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean. KJV When Christ told Need to be careful in your studies as the underlined part is not from Ellen White nor in the R&H as you see the original here https://text.egwwritings.org/read/14874.4577 Quote
Hanseng Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, hobie said: Need to be careful I underlined that. Sorry I didn't make that clear. Underlined or not, EGW calls the Wescott & Hort based English Revised Version, "the true version" compared to the KJV. The reference you cited is from the Desire of Ages, not the Review & Herald article I quoted from. The article is certainly written by EGW or at least credited to her. July 5, 1898 in the Review and Herald, Ellen White quoted the English Revised Version, based on the Greek test of Wescott & Hort. She called it the true version, compared to the KJV. I agree that we need to be careful in our studies. You cited a reference from Desire of Ages. I cited one from the R & H. In the Review and Herald article she says "the true version reads," siding with the English Revised Version against the KJV. Get it? The English Revised Version, at least in this text, is the true version. That version is based on the Greek text of Wescott and Hort. Westcott and Hort manuscripts Quote
hobie Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago 20 hours ago, Hanseng said: I underlined that. Sorry I didn't make that clear. Underlined or not, EGW calls the Wescott & Hort based English Revised Version, "the true version" compared to the KJV. The reference you cited is from the Desire of Ages, not the Review & Herald article I quoted from. The article is certainly written by EGW or at least credited to her. July 5, 1898 in the Review and Herald, Ellen White quoted the English Revised Version, based on the Greek test of Wescott & Hort. She called it the true version, compared to the KJV. I agree that we need to be careful in our studies. You cited a reference from Desire of Ages. I cited one from the R & H. In the Review and Herald article she says "the true version reads," siding with the English Revised Version against the KJV. Get it? The English Revised Version, at least in this text, is the true version. That version is based on the Greek text of Wescott and Hort. Westcott and Hort manuscripts No, that is the view in a editorial from 2019 by John J. Grosboll, and he adds "the true version reads," not Ellen White. Quote
Hanseng Posted 50 minutes ago Posted 50 minutes ago 2 hours ago, hobie said: White. Hobie, That editorial by John Grossboll is quoting the article signed Ellen G. White in the July 5, 1898 Review and Herald. Grossboll uses no quotes and cites no reference. Go to the SDA archives, find the periodicals, then Review and Herald, July 5, 1898. Grossboll is copying EGW and not giving her credit. Try this link to the original article in which EGW sides with the ERV [Wescott and Hort] against the KJV. The remark in question is in the third column, 2nd paragraph. Hobie, I, too, was invested in the KJV only nonsense. Not to worry, God is Great! Quote
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