Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted Monday at 02:44 PM Moderators Posted Monday at 02:44 PM ICE agents block entry and detain at White Memorial Hospital. https://spectrummagazine.org/the-current/ice-agents-arrest-two-block-ambulance-entrance-at-adventist-health-white-memorial/ Quote Gregory
bonnie1962 Posted Tuesday at 01:24 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:24 PM Nithya Raman was elected to fix LA. Her first move should infuriate voters Nithya Raman was elected to fix LA — not to bring more conflict to the streets of the city. Yet her first act as mayor-elect was to join an absurd anti-ICE protest at a hospital this weekend. Left-wing activists created the false impression that ICE agents had raided a hospital. Nothing like that happened — in fact, it was closer to the opposite, as anti-ICE activists tried to invade an emergency room. What really took place was that ICE agents brought a detainee to the hospital for medical attention. They weren’t raiding the hospital, at all; they were trying to provide aid. They were doing their humanitarian duty. Quote
Gustave Posted Wednesday at 03:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 03:35 PM It was likely a misunderstanding. Liberal zealots believed toddlers were being denied sex reassignment medical care, became militant and acted out. The media was promptly there to offer support to the liberal agenda. Quote
Members phkrause Posted Thursday at 01:29 PM Members Posted Thursday at 01:29 PM First question I would have is "Why are ICE agents there? and not the police????? And as far as the newly elected mayor is concerned, here is an AI report on that: Yes, newly elected Mayor Nithya Raman was present at White Memorial Medical Center in Los Angeles. She joined protests against ICE agents who were blocking ambulances outside the hospital, which sparked significant public outcry. Details of the Event The incident at White Memorial Medical Center involved several key aspects. Protests — Demonstrators gathered outside the hospital to oppose ICE's actions, which included blocking ambulances. Mayor's Involvement — Nithya Raman, as mayor-elect, participated in the protests, emphasizing her stance against federal immigration enforcement at healthcare facilities. Public Reaction — The confrontation led to widespread criticism and support for Raman's actions, highlighting the contentious nature of immigration policies. Location — The protests occurred at Adventist Health White Memorial Medical Center in Boyle Heights, a significant site for the community. And the mayor doesn't take office until Dec 14! Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie1962 Posted Thursday at 02:36 PM Posted Thursday at 02:36 PM 1 hour ago, phkrause said: First question I would have is "Why are ICE agents there? and not the police????? Because they had two people in custody, one needed medical attention. Unless a correction has been reported ICE did exactly what ICE was supposed to do. Both later were arrested for assaulting federal officers. 1 hour ago, phkrause said: Yes, newly elected Mayor Nithya Raman was present at White Memorial Medical Center in Los Angeles. She joined protests against ICE agents who were blocking ambulances outside the hospital, which sparked significant public outcry. Every Angeleno should be able to get medical care without worrying about being deported and torn from their loved ones," her statement on X read, in part. "Angelenos should not have to live in fear. ICE has no place in Los Angeles." My first question would be did she know why the men were in custody? Did she know or maybe a better question would be if she cared one needed medical attention. Following the rules he was taken to the hospital. I dont see anything about his medical attention that was needed. I saw nothing of this man being in custody prior to arriving at the hospital. Agents were there with two men in custody and the police dept is not a reliable aid for this The incident at White Memorial Medical Center involved several key aspects. Mayor's Involvement — Nithya Raman, as mayor-elect, n participated in the protests, emphasizing her stance against federal immigration enforcement at healthcare facilities. The above by the mayor gives a far different impression. This did not start out as federal immigration. It started out as a man needing medical care Did she know why the men were in custody? Did she know one needed medical attention? Where should IICE have brought a man needing medical attention. maybe ICE blocked ER entrance because of the behavior past and present of peaceful loving liberal protestors? Did ICE block ER entrance when they arrived with a man needing medical attention? Or after protestors were notified and s along with the newly elected mayor? I havent followed this since it first happened. But several key issues seem to have been omitted. Did the mayor have any idea why the men were in custody? What should ICE have done with a man needing medical attention? Did ICE block ER entrance upon arrival? Or did they block entrance either after notification of a pending arrival of protestors or after they arrived? 1 hour ago, phkrause said: Public Reaction — The confrontation led to widespread criticism and support for Raman's actions, highlighting the contentious nature of immigration policies. Location — The protests occurred at Adventist Health White Memorial Medical Center in Boyle Heights, a significant site for the community. And the mayor doesn't take office until Dec 14! ,Her five minutes of fame. Do we know if the protestors were hired. After MN spontaneous riots the protestors were found to be hired and pay scale reported Quote
bonnie1962 Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Would those of you that sound as if y ou believe ICE blocked the ER on arrival be so kind as to offer where you found that infor, It sounds more like the mob was notified that ICE was there and brought a man in that needed attention, The Mobwas notified by someone and gathered. ICE probably anticipated violence and took precaution. Quote
Members phkrause Posted 17 hours ago Members Posted 17 hours ago I'm guessing than that if there are discrepancies than the whole story needs to come out first before we can determine what's really going on here? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Hanseng Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago The Boyle Heights district was once a thriving Jewish community. What in now Caesar Chavez Avenue used to be Brooklyn Ave. East L.A., where the White Memorial is located, is a Hispanic community. There are more than 100,000 reaidents in East L.A. 95% are Hispanic. There are areas where White people should appear only with a Hispanic escort. In short, there are likely thousands of illegals in East Los Angeles. It is exactly the kind of place where immigration enforcement should exercise itself. A large proportion of Hispanic immigrants maintain their distinct identity, usually Mexican. They are not assimilating into American culture, nor do they want to. Parts of downtown Los Angeles, city block after city block, are essentially an extension of Mexico. You would never guess you were in America, if you woke up there one morning. Whatever ICE is doing in Los Angeles is perfectly understandable, from an immigration enforcement perspective. How they do their job is another matter. Law enforcement officers, of any stripe, can get themselves killed being "nice." Generally, Americans are very rude and disrespectful of and to law enforcement. If ICE wants to get the job done, they could forget about non lethal alternatives, i.e., drop a few bodies. As a guy who pulled a gun on me in Arizona said, "You may not respect me but you will fear me." Quote
Asia Joe Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago On 11/9/2026 at 10:44 PM, Gregory Matthews said: ICE agents block entry and detain at White Memorial Hospital. I understand why people are upset with this. But let me tell you, as a person who has traveled to many countries. Immigration agents are some of the rudest and meanest people I have ever dealt with. Japan is such a friendly country, except one group of people. You better not cross them. In some places just talking rude (many places in Asia) is justification for removal. I can assure you, if one of these Asian countries had such serious immigration problems that the USA has, they would be much more brutal than these ICE agents. I am not exaggerating. Quote
bonnie1962 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 hours ago, phkrause said: I'm guessing than that if there are discrepancies than the whole story needs to come out first before we can determine what's really going on here? That didn't seem to be the thinking when this was first posted. The way most of the reporting has been done on this you would think that ICE made a random decision to block the ER of this hospital. Someone will grab a headline or a sentence or two and run with it. Most certainly the media is aware of that. Just one headline concerning this would be enough ; This could certainly add fuel to a fire certain groups are anxious to start ICE agents showed up at a hospital in Los Angeles on Saturday and blocked off the ambulance entrance. KABC-TV, a Los Angeles TV station, reports that ICE showed up at about midnight at Adventist Health White Memorial Medical Center with a person in custody who needed medical treatment in the emergency room. A hospital spokesperson said federal agents blocked the entrance to the ER for two hours. The spokesman for the medical center again makes it sound as if they just decided to exercise a little muscle and block ER “When agents formed a line across our ambulance entrance, which we did not request nor authorize, we diverted ambulances to nearby hospitals for about two hours to ensure every patient received timely, respectful, and culturally sensitive care,” the spokesperson told NBC Los Angeles. The cause is always ignored. ICE just drove up to this hospital and blocked ER? We have had the peaceful mobs do this and block ambulances with patients inside, So far ICE has not been reported doing that Protesters soon showed up to object to the presence of ICE agents at the hospital, and one of the demonstrators, a teenage girl, was reportedly pepper-sprayed by agents and needed medical attention. Would be interesting to find out if this highly concerned mob was being paid. As in MN. Kind of reminds one of the hired mourners in the 1800's Hospital president Daniel Fontura said that agents entered the hospital, and wanted to be present when doctors were speaking with the patient in ICE custody. According to Fontura, hospital officials rebuffed the agents. “There was a time when ICE actually wanted to break protocol and be present with the physician in that sacred physician patient encounter and we said no,” Fontura said. He said that when ICE started to block access to ambulances and EMS vehicles, the hospital then contacted the Los Angeles Police Department for help. Quote
bonnie1962 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Asia Joe said: I understand why people are upset with this. But let me tell you, as a person who has traveled to many countries. Immigration agents are some of the rudest and meanest people I have ever dealt with. Do you think with some of the types of people they are after Please and thank you would be helpful. Before they got the phrase uttered they could find themselves face down on the sidewalk. Many they pick up are the worst human nature offers. More is expected of ICE dealing with those unlawfully here. It would be great if please and thank you would do it. But for many only physical brute force is what they understand, I can assure you, if one of these Asian countries had such serious immigration problems that the USA has, they would be much more brutal than these ICE agents. I am not exaggerating. Think about what you just said. Maybe one good reason they dont have our problem is those illegally coming to our country know where it is safe and they will be protected. They can receive free medical,free food, free housing, many of them killing our young women and children in very brutal ways. Here we have even our politicians,as ours did refusing to deport a man that had raped and killed a little girl. It isnt compasion,it is deliberate, practised stupidity that gives what is wanted by certain groups Quote
Asia Joe Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago In Philippines there are many examples of people making a video that is slightly critical of the country, and they are deported. Once your passport is stamped deported, many countries will refuse entry. There was a Russian who made a video making fun of a policeman. He was imprisoned without trail for 8 months in a bad place. Then deported. Then there is the guy in Korea in jail without trail for over a year for a disrespectful video. Let's not even talk about the cruel and unusual punishment the Chinese immigration does. Quote
Hanseng Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 hours ago, Asia Joe said: Let's not even talk about the cruel and unusual punishment the Chinese immigration does. I'd like to hear about it Joe, the cruel and unusual punishment of which you have firsthand knowledge. Quote
Hanseng Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 ¶ Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7 ¶ Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. Quote
bonnie1962 Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago I have stopped being surprised that the above is translated by SDA christians and other christians to mean " Come on In Door(Border) wide open. No need to assimilate, no need to work,no need to strive to educate youself and be a contributing citizen of the country you have chosen to live in. How many of those rushed to the polls not caring that some being voted in publically and proudly stated bringing into office a ideology the complete opposite of what this country has guarded and protected for 250 years. Quote
Hanseng Posted 29 minutes ago Posted 29 minutes ago 13 hours ago, bonnie1962 said: I'm guessing than that if there are discrepancies than the whole story needs to come out first before we can determine what's really going on here? Unlikely to get that from a rabble-rousing press corps. I happened to see the entire Rodney King beating video, not the edited version which was usually shown. I also saw a picture of Trayvon Martin as he was when he was killed, not the ~10 year old photo usually displayed. Another video featured a knife wielding woman attacking officers. The story was spun to the public as another example of police brutality. They were incredibly patient and restrained in their dealings with her, a woman lunging at them with a butcher knife. The media has an agenda, a bully pulpit of sorts. The way they manipulate the news is essentially lying to the public. Quote
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