Dr. Shane Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 Well he has almost come out and said it! Limbaugh feels that if McCain is elected he will destroy the conservative movement. It would be better for the movement if McCain loses. With a Democrat in the White House the conservative movement could get fired up again. Win back Congress and put up a good presidential candidate in 2012. I think another reason conservative talk shows are willing to lose the White House is to send a message to Republicans that without conservative talk radio supporting them, they can't win elections. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Woody Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 Sorry .... Anyone BUT Clinton. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Taylor Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 Agreed that Obama seems better than Clinton. Not because of gender or race, but because Obama has conducted himself in a much more "presidential manner" than Clinton has, in my humble opinion. Quote
jasd Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Mebbe Limbaugh..., but definitely Sophia (Coulter) and myself are on the same wavelength; that is, rather than 'wallbanger' Mac (where's the button? I wanna see Red Right NOW! where's the button!?) - our votes will be going to Hillary - my political nemesis. The nice guy..., umm, the vacuous prose seems to have found an audience but - do we know if he can - even run the corner 7-11 store? I mean, two years of National Politics and he thinks he's qualified to run the Ship of State! Can he even run a corner 7-11? (he can't {as per in the Illinois Legislature} simply vote 'not present' - can he?) If the nice guy gets the nod to run against the Mac - I'll be writing in... jasd Quote
D. Allan Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 If i were a republican i would be proud of McCain. However, he is just too conservative for me. :) Quote dAb O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
Woody Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 You are just a little left of center aren't you. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Woody Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Quote: I wanna see Red Right NOW! I'm sorry. I am a little busy caring for my disabled wife right now. Try another time but not right NOW. Red Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
jasd Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 >>If i were a republican...<< And, if I were not an anarchist - I could probably be satisfied with one or another of the current crop of hopefuls :-O Quote
Moderators John317 Posted February 12, 2008 Moderators Posted February 12, 2008 If i were a republican i would be proud of McCain. However, he is just too conservative for me. My hunch is that if Obama is the Democratic candidate, he will win. He's a fantastic speaker and reminds me JFK (yes, I remember him very well; I watched him during his last news conference). If Clinton is the candidate, I think she'll lose. Can you imagine having to see and hear Bill every night for the next 4 or possibly 8 years?!! Regards, "John 3: 17" Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
D. Allan Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Hillary Clinton is a fantastic speaker too. But I agree with you, John, about having to hear Bill every night! He should take lessons from Queen Elizabeth's husband. Yeah, Reddiwoodi, I'm way left of center. Hope that doesn't splinter you too badly! :) Quote dAb O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
Woody Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Quote: Hope that doesn't splinter you too badly! Just a dAb .... was that a jab? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Moderators Jeannieb43 Posted February 12, 2008 Moderators Posted February 12, 2008 The thought hit me today, after Huckabee announced he'll be staying in the race to the very end... That tells me that Huckabee is hoping to be nominated for Vice President with McCain. And that tells me that the Radical Right will then get on board and push the Republican ticket even harder, if they have one of their darling religious types on the ticket. And then, I begin to remember all the vicious, dirty tricks the Repubs used against the Clintons during the '90s.... and against Gore in '04 and Kerry in '00... all of which tells me the Repubs will pull out some lies and inuendoes against WHOEVER runs on the Democratic ticket..... And -- the CULMINATION of this nightmare is.... another REPUBLICAN president gets elected in November! I wake up in panic every time that nightmare hits me. We CANNOT bear another Republican administration right now. There are just TOO MANY radicals aboard on that side. Whatever the Democrats do, whoever they nominate, the Democrats MUST WIN in November! Quote Jeannie<br /><br /><br />...Change is inevitable; growth is optional....
Woody Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 Quote: Whatever the Democrats do, whoever they nominate, the Democrats MUST WIN in November! Oh Please. We sure don't need to see any more of Bill. Give me a break. I'll take GW over BC and FOBs anyday. And BTW ... As a republican ... you are not sounding like you should. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Dr. Shane Posted February 12, 2008 Author Posted February 12, 2008 I surf the radio waves most every day between jobs. It seems to me that Bill O'Reilly is the only one not hoping for McCain's defeat. If Clinton is elected she will give them TONS of battle cries to rally. I really think that conservative talk radio wants to take credit for dooming McCain. Dr. James Dobson seems on board with them. They are looking at the long term, not the short term. If McCain loses and it is perceived that it is because conservatives did not support him that will increase the conservatives' influence over the Republican party incredibly. It will mean Republicans will always be concerned about catering to their conservative base. A McCain loss may be a set-back to conservatism in the short term but may actually strengthen the Religious Right and conservative talk radio's influence in the GOP. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
fccool Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I don't remember who it was, but he stated something along the lines of: " I would rather have a dishonest politician than an idealogical one. You can trust dishonest person to be dishonest and care only for himself, but the idealogical one will force it on you..." I hope I can find the original quote. But I agree... and if that's the case... then Hilary the least ideological and the most dishonest of everyone of them . But I would not vote for anyone in this case... even if I participated in political process. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted February 12, 2008 Moderators Posted February 12, 2008 Here's the game plan as I see it. Limbaugh et al know the "game" is lost. there is no way the GOP will win in November. They are positioning themselves for fight after MC Cain loses. They can say, "see what happens when you don't elect a true conservative" All this stuff is about whose in control after the defeat. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Neil D Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 And all the while, it was conservatism that got the US in it's current mess in the first place.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
fccool Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 And all the while, it was conservatism that got the US in it's current mess in the first place.... I don't think so, as the action of the current administration by far not a traditionally conservative ideology at all! I think Ron Paul is right on that one as much as I disagree with some of his views. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted February 12, 2008 Moderators Posted February 12, 2008 The interesting thing is, however, that prominent media "conservatives" like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter have backed this Admin extensively and have remained silent on the issues that concern many traditional conservatives. It is this Bush neo-conservatism that has split the GOP and will lead to a loss in November. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Dr. Shane Posted February 12, 2008 Author Posted February 12, 2008 I disagree that conservative talk radio "knows" the GOP will lose in November. If Clinton get the nomination there is a very good chance that the Republicans could keep the White House - Obama stands a greater chance of being successful. Conservative talk radio pretty much knew that George H.W. Bush was not going to win in '92 or Dole in '94 but they still supported both candidates to the very end. Conservative talk radio and the religious right has issues with McCain. It is not about some kind of knowledge they have that they will lose in November. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
jasd Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Oh! A little bit of sun will chase the clouds, the clouds away, awaayyy...! Did Kosinski’s Chance the Gardener/Chauncey Gardiner prefigure the nice guy? Did some really clever campaign ‘manager’ correctly gauge the pulse of the American electorate - and steal a page from... Being There ? – credit: Rush to Excellence Quote
Planey Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 the action of the current administration by far not a traditionally conservative ideology at all! GWB may not have truly endeared himself to his politically conservative constituents, but I can guarantee that the religious conservatives loved everything he did. Graeme Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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